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1. If you've been playing the game long enough to get a character to level 27 you already know regular enhancements are sold in increments of 5 levels. 5, 10, 15, 20, 25, etc and if left uncombined will turn red at levels 7, 12, 17, 22, 27, etc.
2. If you are buying TO's, DO's, and SO's why would you be running between the market and the university? They don't need to be crafted.
3. If you are using IO's You don't need to run around replacing them because they never turn red.
4. IO's don't have a set price. They are driven solely by what players want to sell them for, thus their prices can fluctuate depending upon the supply and demand.
Players buying will inevitably find themselves paying far more than they wanted because they they didn't take the time to place bids and see if something was just too damn expensive.
5. If the player doesn't can't afford everything the player will end up getting screwed again when he finds that the ones he did buy weren't for powers he considers the important ones. Everyone has different ideas as to what his best powers are, and what he considers a priority to slot first.
Ok Forbin_Project. Let me tell you that I have been playing City since June of 2004 so I know how the enhancements work. What I am suggesting is that as you run around doing missions and you level up at your milestone levels 12,17,22,27,32,37,42, and 47 you can purchase the next level of enhancements all at once so if you hit level 12 for example and you are already decked out with all training enhancements with a single click you can upgrade all enhancements to Dual Origin for the price it would cost you to purchase all of them without having to sit there at the store for several minutes purchasing them and placing them. I personally would not need to do this because I generally do not mess with enhancements until at least level 12 anyway however it is just an example. The next example is that you hit level 27 when you can start using level 30 enhancements. You run to a store or the Wentworths and with a click you can either purchase an replace all enhancements with level 30 Single Origin for the price it would cost to purchase them or you could replace them all with level 30 Invention Origin enhancements for the price it would cost you to purchase the recipes at the university + the cost of all needed salvage+ the crafting cost without having to run around spending several hours/days trying to do it manually. Some people do not care about getting the "best price" and since the amount of subscribed players that are actually playing is down right now it is sometimes hard to find enhancements so this would be a way to do it in a fast and easy matter if you did not want to deal with the hassle of haggling and crafting and influence/infamy was no object to you. And I am sure that the system I am proposing would show you the price to upgrade before charging you so you could see if it was an amount you are willing to pay. If you want to sit at the Wentworths for a week waiting to see if you can get that one level 35 standard invention origin recipe for fly speed for only 10000 then go right ahead however some of us like to just upgrade and then return to doing missions, task forces, etc. and we gain enough influence that it is no big deal to drop a few million to upgrade to all level 35 or level 40 standard IOs. I do not know why there are so many people on the boards that decide to just /unsign everything they see without considering an alternative to the way things are. I have been subscribed to this game since June of 2004 and never had a lapse in my account. I have seen every single issue be announced and unvieled. This game has improved greatly since then through suggestions just like this one. I for one do not enjoy the crafting part of the game. It is boring and frustrating and I know I am not the only person that feels that way. It would be nice to be able to upgrade your entire loadout of enhancements in a more quick and easy fashion than we have today. Most other MMOs you may upgrade by getting a new shield or weapon and then you are on your way but you do not have to spend hours purchasing if you can find them upgrades for accuracy/damage/range/endurance Reducers/etc. It is great that we have such a grandular system however it is also very time consuming to upgrade. I am just throwing out a suggestion to make that process more streamlined for those of us who dislike crafting so much.
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I can get on board about upgrading existing TO/DO/SO Enhancements to the next available level with a streamlined process. Provided you are at the right shop, I don't see this as much of a problem from any aspect.
As for IOs of any sort, I don't think there is any viable way to do what you propose. The system is simply too complex for this type of QoL improvement. Since the supply is based solely upon the players, coupled with the fact there is no need to upgrade IOs in the same fashion as they never wear out, this breaks down even further.
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IOs would have to be excluded, else the first time someone 'upgraded' their level 10 Karma -KB to a level 30, there would be some interesting language.
Thats not accounting for the huge variation in salvage prices according to current supply.
http://boards.cityofheroes.com/showthread.php?t=204437
Has some recent examples.
Would you really want to click a button and buy it now spending a million inf or more on a brass ? (usual buy it now price in the 500 -1000 range).
Of course as that is used in Level 25 damage IOs, you could easily be buying 9 or more at the price.
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Originally Posted by Justice_Bruiser
Ok Forbin_Project. Let me tell you that I have been playing City since June of 2004 so I know how the enhancements work. What I am suggesting is that as you run around doing missions and you level up at your milestone levels 12,17,22,27,32,37,42, and 47 you can purchase the next level of enhancements all at once so if you hit level 12 for example and you are already decked out with all training enhancements with a single click you can upgrade all enhancements to Dual Origin for the price it would cost you to purchase all of them without having to sit there at the store for several minutes purchasing them and placing them. I personally would not need to do this because I generally do not mess with enhancements until at least level 12 anyway however it is just an example. The next example is that you hit level 27 when you can start using level 30 enhancements. You run to a store or the Wentworths and with a click you can either purchase an replace all enhancements with level 30 Single Origin for the price it would cost to purchase them or you could replace them all with level 30 Invention Origin enhancements for the price it would cost you to purchase the recipes at the university + the cost of all needed salvage+ the crafting cost without having to run around spending several hours/days trying to do it manually. Some people do not care about getting the "best price" and since the amount of subscribed players that are actually playing is down right now it is sometimes hard to find enhancements so this would be a way to do it in a fast and easy matter if you did not want to deal with the hassle of haggling and crafting and influence/infamy was no object to you. And I am sure that the system I am proposing would show you the price to upgrade before charging you so you could see if it was an amount you are willing to pay. If you want to sit at the Wentworths for a week waiting to see if you can get that one level 35 standard invention origin recipe for fly speed for only 10000 then go right ahead however some of us like to just upgrade and then return to doing missions, task forces, etc. and we gain enough influence that it is no big deal to drop a few million to upgrade to all level 35 or level 40 standard IOs. I do not know why there are so many people on the boards that decide to just /unsign everything they see without considering an alternative to the way things are. I have been subscribed to this game since June of 2004 and never had a lapse in my account. I have seen every single issue be announced and unvieled. This game has improved greatly since then through suggestions just like this one. I for one do not enjoy the crafting part of the game. It is boring and frustrating and I know I am not the only person that feels that way. It would be nice to be able to upgrade your entire loadout of enhancements in a more quick and easy fashion than we have today. Most other MMOs you may upgrade by getting a new shield or weapon and then you are on your way but you do not have to spend hours purchasing if you can find them upgrades for accuracy/damage/range/endurance Reducers/etc. It is great that we have such a grandular system however it is also very time consuming to upgrade. I am just throwing out a suggestion to make that process more streamlined for those of us who dislike crafting so much.
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Wall of text, didn't read.
I see however that other posters are mentioning some of the same points I brought up, so I must not be that far off base.
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Originally Posted by Justice_Bruiser
Ok Forbin_Project. Let me tell you that I have been playing City since June of 2004 so I know how the enhancements work. What I am suggesting is that as you run around doing missions and you level up at your milestone levels 12,17,22,27,32,37,42, and 47 you can purchase the next level of enhancements all at once so if you hit level 12 for example and you are already decked out with all training enhancements with a single click you can upgrade all enhancements to Dual Origin for the price it would cost you to purchase all of them without having to sit there at the store for several minutes purchasing them and placing them. I personally would not need to do this because I generally do not mess with enhancements until at least level 12 anyway however it is just an example. The next example is that you hit level 27 when you can start using level 30 enhancements. You run to a store or the Wentworths and with a click you can either purchase an replace all enhancements with level 30 Single Origin for the price it would cost to purchase them or you could replace them all with level 30 Invention Origin enhancements for the price it would cost you to purchase the recipes at the university + the cost of all needed salvage+ the crafting cost without having to run around spending several hours/days trying to do it manually. Some people do not care about getting the "best price" and since the amount of subscribed players that are actually playing is down right now it is sometimes hard to find enhancements so this would be a way to do it in a fast and easy matter if you did not want to deal with the hassle of haggling and crafting and influence/infamy was no object to you. And I am sure that the system I am proposing would show you the price to upgrade before charging you so you could see if it was an amount you are willing to pay. If you want to sit at the Wentworths for a week waiting to see if you can get that one level 35 standard invention origin recipe for fly speed for only 10000 then go right ahead however some of us like to just upgrade and then return to doing missions, task forces, etc. and we gain enough influence that it is no big deal to drop a few million to upgrade to all level 35 or level 40 standard IOs. I do not know why there are so many people on the boards that decide to just /unsign everything they see without considering an alternative to the way things are. I have been subscribed to this game since June of 2004 and never had a lapse in my account. I have seen every single issue be announced and unvieled. This game has improved greatly since then through suggestions just like this one. I for one do not enjoy the crafting part of the game. It is boring and frustrating and I know I am not the only person that feels that way. It would be nice to be able to upgrade your entire loadout of enhancements in a more quick and easy fashion than we have today. Most other MMOs you may upgrade by getting a new shield or weapon and then you are on your way but you do not have to spend hours purchasing if you can find them upgrades for accuracy/damage/range/endurance Reducers/etc. It is great that we have such a grandular system however it is also very time consuming to upgrade. I am just throwing out a suggestion to make that process more streamlined for those of us who dislike crafting so much.
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second, io's don't expire like to's,do's and so's so there is no need to upgrade those every 5 lv's so they have no place in this suggestion.
third, it takes all of 15 mins to enhance a toon with to's, do's, so's. 20 when you hit lv 40 on.
Wow, wall o' text there.
For a pop-up warning that you have expired enhancements. I don't particularly want or need it, but so long as it can be turned off like all of the "your xxx tray is full" warnings, I wouldn't have an issue with it.
For an automatic "upgrade all existing enhancements to the next highest usable tier and type" process. I'd be all for it. So long as you're only talking about TO/DO/SO.
You basically can't have this function available for IOs. I understand your choice to use vendor/table receipe price + vendor cost of salvage + crafting cost, but it's not really viable. After all, deific weapons have a vendor cost of 5000. If you can ever actually get a deific weapon for 5000, I'd be very surprised.
Basically, using those prices for IOs would immediately render the entire market moot. I'd NEVER use the market and just auto-update IOs to new levels for a fraction of the "real" price I'd be paying for those IOs. Plus how would you handle set IOs? I can't very well go from common IOs to set IOs automatically or else you've now also destroyed Merits and Tickets as well.
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Originally Posted by Justice_Bruiser
What I am suggesting is that as you run around doing missions and you level up at your milestone levels 12,17,22,27,32,37,42, and 47 you can purchase the next level of enhancements all at once so if you hit level 12 for example and you are already decked out with all training enhancements with a single click you can upgrade all enhancements to Dual Origin for the price it would cost you to purchase all of them without having to sit there at the store for several minutes purchasing them and placing them.
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1. The majority of the players have the funds to do so.
2. The system knows what enhancements you want to put into your powers. If you've leveled and have more slots available since the last time you did your enhancements, how would it know what you want to put into the new, empty slots?
3. What happens if you want to change the type of enhancement? (ie. you want to change an end reduction DO to a damage DO).
Nice idea in theory, but I don't see this as a critical need.
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Wall of text hurts my brain.
I just wish that TOs, DOs and SOs were more affordable, given the 'Standard' rate of play. 'Redding out' is never any fun, especially when, despite having levelled that far, you STILL can't afford full slotting. And no, I'm not 'Doing it wrong'.
But yeah, I get puzzled by the OP idea. Wall 'o text, see?
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NOTE: The Incarnate System is basically farming for IOs on a larger scale, and with more obtrusive lore.
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With this being said it would be real nice if you got notified when your enhancements turn red as the first part of this feature...
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| ...and the other part would be the ability to at any enhancement store or the Wentworths/Black Market have the ability to with a single click upgrade all your enhancements to the next milestone of either training, DO, SO, or IO. So for example you hit level 27 and your level 25 DOs turn red. Goto any store click on either TO, DO, SO, or IO and all your enhancements are upgraded to level 30 of the type you chose for the amount of Influence/Infamy it would cost to purchase that all of that type. That way if you are with a team and hit a milestone it takes a few minutes to upgrade instead of an hour or two of running between the WW and the University. If you want to work with your enhancements individually the option is still there but if you want to upgrade them quick and dirty you have that option now too. That is my suggestion. |
2) You mention Milestone levels, and in your second post mention specificly 12, 17, 22, 27, etc.
Not every user of standard (TO/DO/SO) enhancements is enhancing at exactly those levels. If you use the enhancements that drop (and are of the right origin), you will have a mix of enhancements at varius levels. If you're combining them as you go, you are not going to have all of your standard (rotting as you go) enhancements going bad at the same time. So by the time you get to the upper end, this "Milestone Levels" thing is meaningless.
And it isn't about only grinding the exact same origin foes as yourself. (CoT if you're magic, etc.). If you head over to the Market and buy someone else's drops, you are going to be able to get them at a steal, but they aren't going to be limited to levels that end in a 0 or a 5.
3) You want to eliminate the WW->University->WW->(repeat) run?
Here's a few options.
3A) Buy pre-crafted enhancements.
3B) Grab them from your SG's enhancement bins (if applicable, not everyone has a SG.)
The upgrades I could imagine for improving the enhancement upgrade system at the stores/vendors?
A) Allow a slider to bulk purchase up to 10 of an enhancement, just like you can bid on up to ten of any item at WW in a single bid.
B) Allow a split-screen, showing your enhancement management window (I "/bind Alt+M Manage"
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Originally Posted by Justice_Bruiser
Ok Forbin_Project. Let me tell you that I have been playing City since June of 2004 so I know how the enhancements work.
. What I am suggesting is that as you run around doing missions and you level up at your milestone levels (12,17,22,27,32,37,42, and 47) you can purchase the next level of enhancements all at once. So if you hit level 12 for example and you are already decked out with all training enhancements with a single click you can upgrade all enhancements to Dual Origin for the price it would cost you to purchase all of them without having to sit there at the store for several minutes purchasing them and placing them. I personally would not need to do this because I generally do not mess with enhancements until at least level 12 anyway however it is just an example. |
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Let's say I am fully slotted with L25 SO's. I hit L27.
I'd want to Combine as many of those L25's as possible to make L25+ and L25++ (equal to L26 and L27 in effect). Then dump L30's in the empty slots.
I hit L28, I'll want to Combine those with a batch of L30s to get "L30+" (equal to L31) or if the combine roll is botched, have L30s.
A straight up dump of L25s seems like a waste.
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Or you could replace them all with level 30 Invention Origin enhancements for the price it would cost you to purchase the recipes at the university + the cost of all needed salvage+ the crafting cost without having to run around spending several hours/days trying to do it manually. . Some people do not care about getting the "best price" and since the amount of subscribed players that are actually playing is down right now it is sometimes hard to find enhancements. So this would be a way to do it in a fast and easy matter if you did not want to deal with the hassle of haggling and crafting and influence/infamy was no object to you. . And I am sure that the system I am proposing would show you the price to upgrade before charging you so you could see if it was an amount you are willing to pay. If you want to sit at the Wentworths for a week waiting to see if you can get that one level 35 standard invention origin recipe for fly speed for only 10000 then go right ahead. However some of us like to just upgrade and then return to doing missions, task forces, etc. and we gain enough influence that it is no big deal to drop a few million to upgrade to all level 35 or level 40 standard IOs. |
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I have been subscribed to this game since June of 2004 and never had a lapse in my account. I have seen every single issue be announced and unvieled. This game has improved greatly since then through suggestions just like this one. I for one do not enjoy the crafting part of the game. It is boring and frustrating and I know I am not the only person that feels that way. |
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| Most other MMOs you may upgrade by getting a new shield or weapon and then you are on your way but you do not have to spend hours purchasing if you can find them upgrades for accuracy/damage/range/endurance Reducers/etc. It is great that we have such a granular system however it is also very time consuming to upgrade. I am just throwing out a suggestion to make that process more streamlined for those of us who dislike crafting so much. |
First off, special thanks to BBQ Pork for having the patience to break down the OP's wall'o'text into readable paragraphs.
When the OP says the following, I'm assuming he means basic IO's because they are the only ones you can buy from a crafting table.
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So imagine the responses that will occur from players that make use of IO sets when they click to upgrade all of their enhancements and that level 15 Celerity IO they bought for 20, 50, 60, 200 million. is replaced with a basic Run IO that costs maybe 73,875 or a Jump that costs roughly 49,150.
I believe that the OP's idea would need to only apply to the non-crafted enhancements (TO/DO/SO), and only to the Vendors/Stores, not the Market.
Even then, it's not perfect, but it's a lot more workable.
I understand his desire to not have to slow the team down when he levels. "Hey guys, I just dinged, so I gotta go fix my stacks of decaying SO's! Back soon!" That's part of the joy of IOs, not having to mess with them when you level. (At least not with existing power slots, but unless you really need that next power, you don't have to train when you ding during a teaming session.)
He says that he hates crafting, yet wants to include IOs in this proposed system. You bring up good points for why it shouldn't include IOs. I have a character outfitted entirely with L30ish Set IOs for his L1-32 powers and higher level IO's for everything else from L35-50, so that he can take his Defense with him when he exemplars. (Whenever midlevel Arcane Salvage prices spike blueside and the market needs a touch of supply) With this system, should it include IOs, I would lose some of my exemplaring ability.
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I think for a good part of the population, this is true. Granted, I haven't done any market research on this, but the amount of times I've ever heard anyone on a PUG say, "I don't have enough inf to upgrade" has been far and few between. Besides, it's not a punishment for those who don't have enough money to do so. That would be like saying Purple recipes on the market are a punishment for those who can't afford them.|
Originally Posted by Shard_Warrior
1. The majority of the players have the funds to do so.
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2. The system knows what enhancements you want to put into your powers. If you've leveled and have more slots available since the last time you did your enhancements, how would it know what you want to put into the new, empty slots?
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3. What happens if you want to change the type of enhancement? (ie. you want to change an end reduction DO to a damage DO).
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My suggestions would be:
- Leave it to TO/DO/SO's for all the previously stated reasons. (Sorry OP, IOs was just a silly idea).
- This would require more coding work, I'm sure, but have an interface that lists the powers you have, and allow a player to upgrade per power OR to upgrade all. This would solve the issue of whether or not someone has enough inf. If they don't, they can choose which powers they'd like to upgrade. It's not perfect, but it's more control over what happens.
I think it's a QoL that would be very beneficial in the early game. Especially when running to the store can be much more of a time consumer.
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Agreed, yet you'd still be wasting inf on the initial "Change All" button if you wanted to change them around.
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Originally Posted by Rylas
If you want to change out a couple of SO's here and there, it would still be many times faster to hit the change all button, and then replace the few you wanted to change. Much faster then buying each enhancement individually.
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Why not just suggest that TO/DO/SO enhancements don't expire when you outlevel them, like IOs? It saves a ton of effort, and honestly, the older system isn't that intuitive - knowing you want your enhancements to be green to be ideal to get the most out of them is in some ways more confusing than the entire IO system.
That makes a lot more sense than some auto-upgrade feature.
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Agreed. This would be a fine idea if it were limited to the vendors/stores. Keep IO's and the market out of it altogether.
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Originally Posted by BBQ_Pork
I believe that the OP's idea would need to only apply to the non-crafted enhancements (TO/DO/SO), and only to the Vendors/Stores, not the Market.
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Originally Posted by Shard_Warrior
Agreed, yet you'd still be wasting inf on the initial "Change All" button if you wanted to change them around.
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Also, I think this should be a feature you can use at any time. So if you're 31, but you've gotten tired of your yellow enhancements, you could hit the upgrade button at the store vendor, and get all level 34 SOs.
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Why not just suggest that TO/DO/SO enhancements don't expire when you outlevel them, like IOs? It saves a ton of effort, and honestly, the older system isn't that intuitive - knowing you want your enhancements to be green to be ideal to get the most out of them is in some ways more confusing than the entire IO system.
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So what would be the advantage of crafting IOs over TO/DO/SO's?
I don't find IOs to be that confusing. Generic IOs are crafted. They stay the same enhancement value for the entire life of your character. End of story.
@Rylas
Kill 'em all. Let XP sort 'em out.
IO sets have bonuses, and often modify multiple aspects, pushing them way ahead of SOs. Post 35, even generic IO's pull ahead. IO's don't need any help to stay better than SOs.
My point was, that if SO's behaved as IOs do, there wouldn't be a need to upgrade every few levels - just when you want to get better modifiers. I was throwing out a counter-proposal that is a lot more practical than an upgrade feature.
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I'd avoid making these kinds of assumptions, but that's besides the point. Suppose I don't have enough and click the button. What happens then? What gets replaced and what gets left behind? Does the button just grey out if I don't have enough money? Suppose I have enough to replace all enhancements but one? Suppose I don't want to replace everything?|
Originally Posted by Rylas
I think for a good part of the population, this is true. Granted, I haven't done any market research on this, but the amount of times I've ever heard anyone on a PUG say, "I don't have enough inf to upgrade" has been far and few between. Besides, it's not a punishment for those who don't have enough money to do so. That would be like saying Purple recipes on the market are a punishment for those who can't afford them.
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Assuming such an 'upgrade' feature would only replace old or expired ENH, couldn't a person changing ENH type just buy/slot the replacements, then hit Upgrade for everything else?
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Originally Posted by Samuel_Tow
You're assuming everyone takes wasting money buying a bunch of enhancements only to buy new ones to replace them lightly. This is not the case, and a system that wastes this much just to be "convenient" is more dangerous than anything else.
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Okay. First off, I don't think the OP's idea is bad in what it wants to accomplish...
(Come on, by lvl 30, who actually likes wasting that much time upgrading enhancements at the store? It's like
-look at enhancements "I need 9 dmg enhancements, 5 acc enhancements, 3 end redux, 6 defense, 3 rech and a fly speed"
-opens store, scroll down and starts buying: dmg,dmg,dmg,dmg,dmg,dmg,dmg,dmg,ENHANCEMENTS FULL!
-"crap, need to get rid of those worthless-to-me-tech SO later"
-go into enhancement menu and slots dmg one at a time
-goes back store menu: dmg,dmg...."how many dmg did I need again?"
-goes back to enhancement menu and slot 1 dmg "dammit, bought 1 extra dmg"
-goes to store menu: sell dmg; buy acc,acc,acc,acc,acc,def,def,def,ENHANCEMENTS FULL!
-goes to enhance menu and slots 1 at a time
-recount "I need 3 more defense, 3 endredux, 3 rech, and a fly speed"
-goes to store menu....
....although I'm use to it now, it's still a pain in the ****.)
However, I do not like how the OP's idea to aid the problem. It's unintuitive and gives very few options.
If I were suggesting a QoL change to stores, it'd be to give it a Mids' look right in the enhancement menu where you simply right click what enhancements you want in what slot. This menu would become available when close enough to an enhancement vendor. A button somewhere that basically 'upgrades' the lvl of all current enhancements to current, +1, +2 or +3 (add in the option to get in-between TO/DO/SO enhancements too!) with a total of inf cost by each power (like the costume shop) and a running total at the bottom. When you're done, you just click the 'BUY' button and the price pops up "Do you want to spend XXX on this enhancement configuration? Yes or No", you click yes, the inf is subtracted and you're on your way.
This would also give an added utility and flexibility to TO/DO/SO enhancements in that you can buy the in-between lvls (lvl 25, 26,27,28,29,etc) to keep current if you so choose to spend money on it.
Oh, and for the love of all that is good, give us the option at the market to automatically pull up any components of a recipe with a click! If I'm trying to compare the price of buying a crafted IO and just making it myself, it's much faster if I didn't have to search for each individual piece of salvage and add up its price in my head!
I am STILL against any sort of upgrading of enhancements that has "all" in the description. Even with just SOs, upgrading "all" to +1 or +2 is a bad idea, because it's prone to too many variables and prone to waste money.
If I want to see anything at all in this vein, I'd simply like the ability to buy enhancements right into my powers, such that I see the vendor's inventory from within my own Enhancements screen. Say we replace the "Description box with the Vendor inventory. The window is about as big, anyway. You still get the convenience of buying without needing inventory space and without doing a dozen counts and trips, and it's a lot more streamlined and convenient, but it's still in the player's full control and without having to account for aberrations.
For instance, if I ended up with a bunch of DOs and a bunch of SOs because I only used what dropped, I don't want my DOs upgraded, I want them replaced. And if there are enough of them, this convenience gets to be about as much pain as doing it by hand, anyway.
Excessive automation, especially with complicated circumstances, is rarely a good idea. In this case, I believe facilitating better, easier and faster manual use is the superior choice. Improve the interface, don't try to make the computer read your mind and do your work for you.
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Originally Posted by Arcanaville
Samuel_Tow is the only poster that makes me want to punch him in the head more often when I'm agreeing with him than when I'm disagreeing with him.
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Some of us are not as much into the market as others. With this being said it would be real nice if you got notified when your enhancements turn red as the first part of this feature and the other part would be the ability to at any enhancement store or the Wentworths/Black Market have the ability to with a single click upgrade all your enhancements to the next milestone of either training, DO, SO, or IO. So for example you hit level 27 and your level 25 DOs turn red. Goto any store click on either TO, DO, SO, or IO and all your enhancements are upgraded to level 30 of the type you chose for the amount of Influence/Infamy it would cost to purchase that all of that type. That way if you are with a team and hit a milestone it takes a few minutes to upgrade instead of an hour or two of running between the WW and the University. If you want to work with your enhancements individually the option is still there but if you want to upgrade them quick and dirty you have that option now too. That is my suggestion.
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