whats the best Archetypes

hi im just starting city of heroes and im just wondering whats the best archetypes to go for

please help me decide cheers,sean

Depends. What do you want to do?

Also, the individual powersets *within* an archetype can give very different playstyles - as can the combinations. (For instance, a Robotics/Force Field MM is very safe, but I found it very boring (while others love it,) while a Thugs/Poison was far more active - I couldn't get enough of playing it. An Illusion controller is going to play a lot differently than a Fire controller, and so forth.)

Generic answer: A Scrapper (heroside) or Brute (villainside) tends to give the ability to dish out and take some punishment, so those will generally be the generic suggestion. (And for brutes/tanks, I *really* like superstrength.)

More customized:
What do you like to do?
Have you played MMOs before (WoW, Aion, SWG, etc?) If so, what role did you enjoy taking? (Support, dps, ranged damage, tanking, anything and everything?)
If you haven't played MMOs before, have you played RPGs (Neverwinter Nights, Dragon Age, Diablo II, Sacred - anything with classes) before? If so - same question.

Also, as a last note - there are two things to realize about this game.
1. It's a "Journey" game, not a "Destination" game - that is, there's no reason to rush to 50. There's no "uber gear" (at least not like you'd really understand from other games - we have enhancements, and some are rare, but no equipment to wear out/replace/etc.) It's all about what you do on the way up.
2. Don't feel tied in to one character. You'll notice you have 12 slots on *each* server. There's no artificial limit (such as "You can only use 8 of them") - so feel free to make alts (alternate characters - I'm somewhere in the 140-150 character range) and try new combinations, new sets and the like. As mentioned before, even within the same archetype, the different sets can play very, very differently.

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Short Answer: There is no best. Alternatively, define "best."

Longer Answer: See Bill's post.

Bill pretty much covers it and I would definitely encourage a little experimentation.

When I first started I loved playing my Tank, after that I fell in love with Controllers, then with Defenders, then with Brutes and now I am back with Tanks again.

I also enjoy Masterminds and Dominators.

To me all of these are great fun and are the best in my books.

However I have never been able to get into Scrappers, Stalkers or Kheldians.

So have a play around, read the power set descriptions and have a look at some of the powers and see what appeals to you the most!

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I'll echo the "Just play around and see what you like" comment.

Try to team up a lot so you can see more powersets at a time.

Remember, if you ever see someone else doing something that makes you think "Wow, I wish I could do that!" ... you can.

Also: Welcome to the forums! Have some pie, the mods hate it. And don't worry, none of us bite (Except maybe Bill Z).

That said, if you are new, there are certain ATs which have real or perceived responsibilities to the team. Tanks better tank. Most Defenders are expected to heal, regardless of the fact they may be trick arrow/archry.

If you don't feel like the responsibility at first, pick a "dummy" AT [like I do] a blaster or scrapper. Especially scrappers, who no one blames for dying. It just means they were trying hard or got into a scrapper-lock rage.

If you can stand the gloomy environment of red side, Stalkers rock. Masterminds are god-like, and you can go get a soda while in combat, since you don't do anything. [I kid, I kid.]

My two cents.

All of the ATs are awesome.

Except for that one. It's kinda sucky.

Still waiting for his Official BackAlleyBrawler No-Prize

There is no best.

I might argue that Kheldians are the worst >.> But I then, you're new, so not a worry.

For someone new, I'd suggest a scrapper or brute, however. Those are good starting ATs imo.

However, they have a drawback of making the other ATs seeming a bit more difficult, because Brutes and Stalkers have mez protection and good damage. So the other ATs might feel lack in the defense or dmg department.

Just remember that as a Defender or Controller, your buffs/debuffs are infinitely more useful to a team, then your heals.

Keep your teammates buffed and your enemies debuffed/held/slowed/immobilized, then no one will notice the lack of green numbers floating over their heads.

I recommend a Shaman/Paladin.

As for a best type for Coh. All depends on what defines "Best"

How are looking a best?
Fastest to Kill even level Mobs?
Fastest to kill Bosses?
Fastest to rack up XP?
Fastest to kill Mob Groups?
Least Likely to Die fighting hard hitters?
Least Likely to Due Fighting X type enemy?
PvP or PvE?

Social Values?
Easiest to Play?
Easiest to Get in Groups?
Easiest to Play Solo?
What plays with minimal involvement?
What plays with the most interaction?
Least Likely to cause (or get blamed) for a group wipe?
Has the best looking Powers?

Then when Are they best?
Strongest at early levels?
Earliest to get to full power?
Strongest without relying on expensive enhancements?
Strongest with expensive requirement?

Then economics?
What gets the cheapest Enhancements?
What needs the least Insperations?


Depending on answers to above will determine which plays the best. Some classes start of incomplete and take to higher levels to really get feel for them, Controllers for example. yet some like Scrappers play pretty much the same from level 1 to level 50, just get more and more moves.

Well strongest all around probably goes to controller, but they take a bit of time to develop, okie maybe more than a bit of time, probably like mid 30's. I dont recomend them for a new player.

For something easy to level, Brute or Dominator.

Avoid Stalkers, they are playing a different game than every other AT.

I started back in Oct 04' with a scrapper, moved onto blasters and then got stuck on controllers. I would say brutes and scrappers are great for learning the game.

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Originally Posted by Dechs Kaison I was out of range of the inherent bonus. Find me another AT that can have 85% resist all damage, mez protection, a solid AoE attack chain, the ability to stun ten targets in a 45 degree arc, be followed by three damage dealing pets, has a way to heal and fill endurance in one power that's up every 20 seconds, and can cap its own damage bonus, all without outside buffs or "assistance of an inherent". I'm not saying it's the best, mind you. I merely contest that it is pretty damn far from the bottom of the barrel.

A /traps mastermind with oppressive gloom could pull most of that off. Also with masterminds it would be irrelevant to have capped damage on yourself. Also doubtful one could do all that out of the box. I would wager that your Warshade is heavily IO'd, we all know the difference to a toon afterwards. My Stone/NRG brute sucked till I softcapped him, now he's among my best brutes.

I personally do not find Khelds to be fun at all, I've tried so many times to get a kheld to 50. Granted I'm not degrading the ability of khelds, I've seen some awesome ones in my time here. IMO its an AT the Devs could have done so much more with and didn't.

This is a common question with new players. But also a loaded question.

Short answer: If there was a best AT, we'd only have one AT, since there'd be no point in playing the other ones. The different ATs suit different playstyles. Try them all and play the one you like.

Long answer: Read the other posts above mine!

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The best AT is whichever one you happen to be playing at the moment.

If you ask 10 people what the best AT is you stand a good chance of getting 10 different answers. The various ATs are actually pretty well balanced with each other in that no one AT is clearly better than another. There are things that certain ATs are better at than others, but none is overall better than any other.

I'm with the majority on this one. Since we have no idea how you like to play we can't point you toward anything in particular. I advise trying tham all, you have 132 slots available to create characters in, take advantage of that and experiment with the ATs to find which one(s) you like.

I like offensively oriented characters that are self sufficient, so I gravitated toward scrappers. I like blasters as well. I have exactly one defender, and only a couple controllers. I have 2 tanks, but they don't get played much. Villlainside I have a few brutes, a stalker, and several corruptors. I don't have a dominator at all at the moment, and one mastermind who is seldom played.

That's what I like. Mess around with stuff and find out what YOU like.

First character i player was a stalker, re-rolled it about 4 times and eventually got it to level 18 before binning it. Next i tried a mastermind bots/traps, got that to about 28 or so, then binned it after not playig it for a month. I then tried brutes and corruptors and they didn't really do it for me, too much dieing for my liking. finally i rolled a plant/fire dominator and managed to play it all the way through to 50. Apparently, at the time, dom's where the hardest AT to play as they were pretty much helpless untill Domination was active. it was thrilling, i loved my dom, so much so tht i tried soloing even level ghost of scrapyard whilst all his minions where arround (lasted about 1-2 seconds each time). A few days after i got to 50 i just stopped playing my dom, and i now play scrappers and wouldn't roll another dom cos it just doen't appeal to me anymore, which is a shame really.


So basically try everything, and if you get it past level 30 then your probably enjoying it quite a lot. oh and don't worry if it gets tiredsome, cos when the going gets tough, only the weak really get going =)

I suggest a Dark Miasma/Dark Blast defender.
You will learn all about debuffing, when to heal, controlling, blasting, stealthing and tanking.