lol i heard ya...i just get absored in the damn gaem sumtime lol i forget its a game 
I watched the vid, then ran the map. My only comment is that a farm map should take longer than 3 mins. You will spend more time reseting than earning.
LOL thers no way in the world anyone can solo that in 3mins. period. the fastest i did it was 4minutes flat. and that was a damn near perfect run. But like i ve heard before...maybe a brute can do it?
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You did something wrong. Were you running at +3/x8 with bosses? I agree with the OP, there's absolutely no way you did that map in 3 min.|
Originally Posted by DRAIDE
I watched the vid, then ran the map. My only comment is that a farm map should take longer than 3 mins. You will spend more time reseting than earning.
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I tried it on my Fire/Kin and she didn't last too long. Not enough mitigation. Tried it on my Brute and the main problem was that the +3 bosses floor at 8.45% chance to hit -- when surrounded by them, that means a disturbing number of their attacks sneak through and start debuffing my defense. Once that happens, if I allow it to continue, it's game over. So using the OP's rule of "no insps" my brute wouldn't be able to clear the map without kiting to allow the debuff to wear off.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gjzd-5HHh5Yhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gjzd-5HHh5Y
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Dude, my bots/traps just finished this, he doesn't have fulcrum shift, and he took 3 minutes longer than you (with a complete resummon thrown in). And unlike your fire/kin I can aggro pretty much that entire room between me and my bots, not ceiling out at the 17 man aggro cap. |
Originally Posted by Fire Kin Master
Why would i need anyone to caugh up any kind of build when no one is capable of doing what i can??? ive met no one that can so therfore NO ONE HAS THIS BUILD JACK ***!!!I MADE IT MYSELF AND YOU MAD BECASUE YOU PRABABLE CANNOT AFFORD IT AND YOUR FIRE KIN DIES ON THIS AE ARC
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You created a smashing/lethal farm. Congrats. You do realize that the only significant point is that you put in mobs with defense debuffs (from the claw guys I imagine), and yourself slotted for enough s/l defense that you were still softcapped. Thats it. That means making a fire/kin/earth for earth's shield power.
So wow. You created a farm where I saw ninja stars going everywhere (a fire kin built farm with ranged attacks? really?) thats too short for practical farming. You're on a toon that's pretty much impossible to **** up even without IOs, as you can cap your damage and softcap yourself against their attacks. From what I saw in there, any fire/kin with 50% s/l defense could run that, and as long as they keep endurance and don't miss with fulcrum shift can do it as fast as you can if not faster. All you have to be able to do is survive being at the aggro cap, which is pretty damn easy to do with a fire/kin/stone.
No, but to me the best part of all this is the AV level sonic ally. I really should have checked the resists from that, but given that you had defensive help on that map, I'd like to see that compared with a SS/SD brute, or a fire/SD scrapper with a kin helper. Hell, my claws/SR brute with a kin would absolutely destroy that map, as I've got like 54% to all positions and 90 something defense debuff resistance. Being able to hit max targets on all my AoEs every time? I'd shred the hell out of that ****.
You built a build to solo a crappy map, you could have had a very different build that could do that map plus more for the money you spent on the build(s) you posted. You created a meat grinder meant to punish anyone who wasn't cushioned over softcap to S/L, and claim to be a God of farming. You pirated other peoples ideas and came up with a dumb overslotted build that does average for fire/kins and then posted a video of said mediocrity.
This thread has been saddening from start to finish. Enjoy your crappy build, but know that there's not a single person dumb enough to think that designing a build to have 20 points over the softcap so you can survive defense debuffing hard hitting single target mobs (with a hefty AV level resist bubble helping) makes you in any way the king of farming. From what I've seen, you'd be raking in about 10 million an hour farming that map. My bots/traps can beat that on +0x8 RWZ repeatables. My claws/SR can beat that facing pretty much any mobset in the game on mayhem missions.
You seem to have lost the concept that farming is for money, not for bragging rights over who can defeat a room full of mobs designed to punish anyone without a specific build. Seriously, I could take that map and drop something that doesn't debuff defense into the primaries of those mobs and ANY fire/kin could do it.
The same way, I could create a huge map chock full of rikti which would destroy your fire kin, and that my bots/traps could walk through faster than you did the map you videoed. Or I could use Circle of Thorns which don't resist lethal for my claws/SR, which would also pretty much shred your fire/kin build, with its crappy positionals and nonexistent exotic defenses.
That was a good post, Spiritfox. Given the OP's other responses he probably won't learn from it though. It's too bad, since it'd make his build a ton more efficient and make him a far better farmer.
The OP boasted early on that his build was utter perfection. But it was pointed out that his build was not just a little wrong or built in an unusual way, but easily proven to have major shortcomings as a pure farm build. Rather than admit the obvious truth of the critics and tweak his build, he shouted in 48 point type that they were just jealous of his uber abilities.
It's one thing to have a lot to learn and admit it. This game's community is the best and they'll gladly help. The one thing people here hate is arrogance and aggressive ignorance. (It doesn't help that the dude spells worse than my 9 year old. I'm going to be very charitable and assume that English is his second language and that he's dyslexic.)
You wondered how an SS/SD brute would do. I tried out the mission with my SS/SD at +3/8 with bosses and he did fine. Because there are some mobs that debuff defense and my brute isn't well above the soft cap, I wasn't able to do the map with no insps. But that's a pointless restriction anyway. Everyone who farms wants to do it as fast and safe as possible. I kept a few Lucks in reserve to prevent streaks from debuffing my defense too bad and converted the rest of incoming insps into reds to boost my damage. Mayhem ensued.
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Yeppers... If you're not popping insp as fast as they drop on you, you're just slowing yourself down when farming. But then again, so is farming at +3 w/ bosses enabled, for the most part.
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Originally Posted by Sardan
I wasn't able to do the map with no insps. But that's a pointless restriction anyway. Everyone who farms wants to do it as fast and safe as possible.
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Haha, too right. I mainly wanted to try the mission at the exact same difficulty as Fire Kin Master showed in his video.
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Originally Posted by Panzerwaffen
Yeppers... If you're not popping insp as fast as they drop on you, you're just slowing yourself down when farming. But then again, so is farming at +3 w/ bosses enabled, for the most part.
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Wow.....arrogant much? FireKinMaster.......seriously. Grow up kid, and stop buying all that influence from those spammers.Also, you're overslotted....and you built yourself do do a debuff farm, so you built over softcap. Congrats for that simple math, those + and - get tricky.
I can farm just as well (or better) on a BM/Demon and do it by my own merits, without buying influence to have a toon worth a crap. Just so you know, farming is about the quickest in-game reward in the most efficient way. No need to get on a public forum in such an abraisive manner and make yourself look like more of a fool than you already do on Freedom [Broadcast].
well pretty good run fire kin, you should try the rikti stress test, see how well you do, its a pretty hard test, just wanted to see how well it goes on a fire/kin. The biggest threat will bee the mez.
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Nice debt bar in the vid, how many runs did it take to get it right?
Just ran it solo on my fire/shield scrapper in less than six minutes. I'm not even speced for farming.
p.s. Thank you for the 15% resist from the sonic EB.
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I tried it on my fire/kin which is not fully IO'd and built for behemoth farming, and I died rather quickly to them. My hats off to squishies that can handle it. I expect that if I switched to earth mastery and slotted for defense it would be much easier for me.
I also tried it with my inv/ss tank and I was able to put foostomp on auto, go get a drink and have a cigarette, and come back in time to hit dull pain and cap my health again. It wasn't fast, but it was easy.
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Fire Kin Master is oddly silent all of a sudden. He's either:
a) Gotten a little less prideful, and is off somewhere putting all the good advice from this thread to good use, or...
b) Trying to discover how he can set his font to 500 point to tell us that we're all just jealous of his uber skillz.
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Originally Posted by Sardan
Fire Kin Master is oddly silent all of a sudden. He's either:
a) Gotten a little less prideful, and is off somewhere putting all the good advice from this thread to good use, or... b) Trying to discover how he can set his font to 500 point to tell us that we're all just jealous of his uber skillz. |
lol
What really disturbs me about this entire business is the claim (on his Youtube profile) that he's twenty-one and plans to get a masters in criminal justice.
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Considering you kinda need that aggressive-obnoxious personality to survive in that business, I'm not.|
Originally Posted by Laevateinn
What really disturbs me about this entire business is the claim (on his Youtube profile) that he's twenty-one and plans to get a masters in criminal justice.
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I am curious how other fully twinked farm builds compare on this mission though.
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That's irrelevant because it's not a good farm map. I'd much rather see metrics on inf earned per hour or time it took to max tickets. Farm maps are *supposed* to be easy.|
Originally Posted by Radium
I am curious how other fully twinked farm builds compare on this mission though. |
Also, there are far easier ways to challenge yourself if you want that. Want a challenge? Go do a radio mission full of Arachnos +4/x8/bosses yes, and clear it. That's hard for just about anything.
LOLFAIL.
I saw you on Freedom today. >.>
Do you know how many people you make mad?
So, alright, in YOUR opinion you have the best Fire/Kin build, but you just throw it out there way too much. Brag much?
Take a chill pill; I guarantee your not as good as you think.
Kthnxbai.
This thread is full of WIN. I mean really the best and cheapest entertainment I've had all week!
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Nate Nitro 50 Fire/Psi
You know I could go on about how a gimp half brain dead monkey could do what he did with a toon built with gold farmer inf, or how he definitely isn't the best farmer in the game, but I just saw his youtube avatar. Dude looks like Gary Colman. That's punishment enough.
Why did the posting stop? I come here for my dose of daily laughs and IT'S ALL GONE!!!
Why?
:'(
I've been away from the CoX forums for a month or so. Today I think to myself, hrm, what have I been missing? Let me take a quick look.
And then I find this gem.....
CoX forums has been berry berry good to me.
i have a newer build out and the smashing lethal def is 75% and no hasten i will be posting it in about week or so
Second, please stick with a normal font size. The giant size you often use will tend to annoy folks. It sure as hell annoyed me.
Third, enjoyed the video. Made me want to try out your mission. But have some respect for your viewers. Mention "no insps" maybe once at the beginning and if you must, once at the end. I found myself going "yeah, okay I get it already, you're not using insps!"
I like your choice of the Stone Mastery epic although I can't bring myself to take it because the armor is so darned ugly. I'm sure I find this way funnier than anyone reading this because I went through a phase on my Fire/Kin where it was all about tweaking the numbers. I'm a guy, the character is a girl, and it just amuses me to no end that I stick with the Fire epic because it just looks cooler and more thematic with the Fire primary. I guess she brings out my feminine side, lol.
I'm looking forward to trying your AE mission with both my Fire/Kin and my Brute! My guess is the Brute will clear it faster unless your mobs debuff defense--if his defense gets debuffed and there's a "no insp" rule, he's toast!
EDIT: just read some of your recent comments. You need to calm down, dude. Your attitude comes across as comically over-sensitive. Maybe have a grownup proofread your replies. Hint: typing "UR JEALOUS" gets translated into "I FAIL" when people read it.
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