Fire Kin Master X-FINAL Fire Kin Build


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Originally Posted by Gypsy_of_Paradox View Post
That would assume you know every Fire/Kin that exist? LOL

It's completely opinion that you think yours is best, not evidence.

Epic Fail

How is it an Epic fail when you complain but yet
your fir kin cannot out do mine...dont bad mouth if you cannot do whatr i do .
i think you are mad like everyone else on this forum becase they know i am the best " Fire Kin Master X"


 

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Your farm has a bubbling ally on it :P

Dude...


 

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I dont charge for farms for one and for 2 i dont farm bm


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Originally Posted by novawulfe View Post
i find the bm farm boring, but if i don't have much time to play i just load it up or build a small team and load it. ^^"


 

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How is this a poor farming build....tell me what is wrong with it and post YOUR BUILD ON HERE------LIKE I SAID THERE IS NO BUILD THAT WILL TOP THIS BUILD



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Originally Posted by Nihilii View Post
A+ topic, would read again.

Poor farming build though, sorry.


 

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for everyone saying that my build is crap this build sucks stop saying that and just post your farm build??? O wait you cant becasue you dont know how to make a farmer or yet you dont have one...what you need to do is take my farm build and run with it....


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Originally Posted by fury flechette View Post
for the amount you spent, you have a suboptimal build. Why not just copy one of the good builds on the forums instead of posting stuff like this? War admiral posted a good build recently. Mine is on the forums as well too.

If i was going to exclaim that i have the greatest fire/kin build possible, then i am going to make sure that my build is optimized as much as possible.

Problems:

1. Siphon speed's slotting is awful. You want this bad boy to be double stacked. It's clear you don't understand that it's a key kinetic power for farming and that it needs recharge.

2. Yes, with the amount of global accuracy in your build, you could get away with no accuracy in fulcrum shift, assuming you're fighting +1s and below. However, i think that's suboptimal. Missing targets with fulcrum shift slows down your farming a ton, and if you're fighting +4s as you claim, this isn't enough.

3. Horrible slotting for fissure. The damage io in there is a complete waste. I'd swap it out for a dmg/end. It's still pretty clear that you don't understand that kinetic powers like fulcrum shift caps your damage and you need to have your damage powers slotted for accuracy and recharge. Further, it's a missed opportunity to slot the force feedback proc.

4. Horrible slotting for seimic smash, though this is slightly more forgiveable assuming you're just muling a set here. However, again, poor accuracy and recharge values.

5. Wasted slots all over the place.

* the extra def buff in weave is silly since the 4 lotg already ed caps the amount of defense. That def io buys you .2% defense.

* the extra heal io in transfusion.

* you probably don't realize that even with 1 recharge io that earth embrace will cap your hitpoints. Instead of putting in the heal, heal/rech or heal/end/rech pieces you opt pretty much all the pieces (with the exception of the heal/end/rech) that doesn't do you any good. You want recharge in this power.

* the 5th slot in fire imps for the worthless pet resist aura is truly lol worthy. 10% resists for your pets will do almost nothing.

6. Ed caps. You're over caps in a bunch of powers by slotting the pure hold, damage or immobilize. Not having end redx in these powers just doesn't make any sense and slows down your efficiency.

7. Smoke is a very valid power choice but since you're already capped for s/l defense, why bother. If i were to take smoke, i'd get less defense and slot for more recharge. But with your current slotting, it's a bizarre choice.

Stop embarrasing yourself. And just copy someone who knows what they're doing.


 

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Originally Posted by Fire Kin Master View Post
for everyone saying that my build is crap this build sucks stop saying that and just post your farm build??? O wait you cant becasue you dont know how to make a farmer or yet you dont have one...what you need to do is take my farm build and run with it....
LOL Assumptions. Plus you don't need to HAVE to have a fire/kin to see your build is horrible. I don't even play heroes enough to need a farmer really. But if you want to see my villain farmers I'll post all of those builds if you want.

Plain and simple, you posted your build saying its the best. That is your opinion of course, which you're allowed to have. However you furnish no proof other then using a large font. People state the flaws they see within your build, again their opinion which is allowed.

Bottom line, if it works for you run with it. Self proclaimed shouts are pure vanity and will fall on deaf ears.


 

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SO Yet you still fail to post your build....SHOW ME IM WRONG PROVE ME WRONG my build is the best



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Originally Posted by Gypsy_of_Paradox View Post
LOL Assumptions. Plus you don't need to HAVE to have a fire/kin to see your build is horrible. I don't even play heroes enough to need a farmer really. But if you want to see my villain farmers I'll post all of those builds if you want.

Plain and simple, you posted your build saying its the best. That is your opinion of course, which you're allowed to have. However you furnish no proof other then using a large font. People state the flaws they see within your build, again their opinion which is allowed.

Bottom line, if it works for you run with it. Self proclaimed shouts are pure vanity and will fall on deaf ears.


 

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You're not even reading the post LOL

PROVE TO US YOU'RE RIGHT


 

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Ahh yes im sorry you are correct. i will have a contest in the near future i will post the date for "Fire Kins" to see whom can solo my AE the fastest. and that will prove it

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Originally Posted by Gypsy_of_Paradox View Post
You're not even reading the post LOL

PROVE TO US YOU'RE RIGHT


 

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Originally Posted by Fire Kin Master View Post
Ahh yes im sorry you are correct. i will have a contest in the near future i will post the date for "Fire Kins" to see whom can solo my AE the fastest. and that will prove it

BTW funny tip in the beginning of your AE mission.

Speaking of which, i took my Energy Aura brute jumped into the first spawn. Went to make a snack, came back and he's still alive


 

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Cheater....im talkin about Fire Kins i specialize in Fire Kins i have yet to make a Brute yet

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Originally Posted by Gypsy_of_Paradox View Post
BTW funny tip in the beginning of your AE mission.

Speaking of which, i took my Energy Aura brute jumped into the first spawn. Went to make a snack, came back and he's still alive


 

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Originally Posted by Fire Kin Master View Post
Cheater....im talkin about Fire Kins i specialize in Fire Kins i have yet to make a Brute yet
I never liked kin much personally, I have a dark/kin cor I rarely play.

I farm with these:

SS/Fire Brute
Elec/WP Brute
SS/WP Brute
Fire/Psi Dom

All of which do great.

It also does help your build is softcapped to lethal and smashing. Considering your AE mission is mostly lethal damage. I would consider the best builds would be one that can run several types of farms.

I made farms with all Fire Melee/Regen mobs for my SS/Fire Brute


 

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SOunds nice! beyond my knowledge...all i can argue on is Fire Kins



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Originally Posted by Gypsy_of_Paradox View Post
I never liked kin much personally, I have a dark/kin cor I rarely play.

I farm with these:

SS/Fire Brute
Elec/WP Brute
SS/WP Brute
Fire/Psi Dom

All of which do great.

It also does help your build is softcapped to lethal and smashing. Considering your AE mission is mostly lethal damage. I would consider the best builds would be one that can run several types of farms.

I made farms with all Fire Melee/Regen mobs for my SS/Fire Brute


 

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Originally Posted by Fire Kin Master View Post
SOunds nice! beyond my knowledge...all i can argue on is Fire Kins
Well thinking your builds the best is fine TBH.

But, the community here is among the best I've seen in the gaming world. I've posted builds that I've felt were rock solid. Low and behold a player mentions something that I never thought of that would improve my build.

Take it with a grain of salt, see if what they're saying would improve your build to any degree. If you feel your build is awesome, then leave it as such. Don't forget people have a right to their own opinion.

As an example, I prefer Mu Mastery for my Fire/Psi Dom, farmer build. Some people swear to Soul Mastery. Does my build work? Yes, quite effectively. Does their build work for them? Yep

The game is about having fun, if feel someone is running a suboptimal build. Then by all means offer advice. In the end if you're having fun, that's all that matters


 

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Well i think i have the Best "Fire Kinetics Stone Mastery Build" The Game has to offer.


 

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O wait you cant becasue you dont know how to make a farmer or yet you dont have one...
I don't, because there's been about 378 topics about fire/kin builds done in the last week, and while all these builds have flaws, most of them are better than yours.

Giving fire/kin advice is also an exercice of frustration, as many poor or average players flock to this combo, and as it's easy to get decent results on a fire/kin even with a terrible build, they start thinking they're über and stop listening to anyone else, even though their character could be much better.

It's much better to just sit back and enjoy the trainwreck.


 

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Originally Posted by Fire Kin Master View Post
Well i think i have the Best "Fire Kinetics Stone Mastery Build" The Game has to offer.
And others have offered the same level of "proof" of that statement as you have... and yet you are still in here tootin' your own horn about it.

In summation: Who cares? If your build is "the best possible" then so be it, how does that actually impact ANYONE but yourself? Oh, and by what measure have you said you are the best? Go farm some Knives of Artemis for me... If that were MY yardstick, then I am confident your build would fail. Of course, that is a ridiculous measure, since farming them is stupid, but I think my point is clear.



 

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Originally Posted by Nihilii View Post
I don't, because there's been about 378 topics about fire/kin builds done in the last week, and while all these builds have flaws, most of them are better than yours.

Giving fire/kin advice is also an exercice of frustration, as many poor or average players flock to this combo, and as it's easy to get decent results on a fire/kin even with a terrible build, they start thinking they're über and stop listening to anyone else, even though their character could be much better.

It's much better to just sit back and enjoy the trainwreck.
You are oh so right.

My Fire Control Kineticist is slotted with nothing better than Lvl 35 common IOs and a coupld KB Protections... and can farm effectively on certain difficulties. If I really wanted, I could Respec into a different epic and go crazy on IOs... but I find farming to be HUGELY tedious and completely unfun. In fact, the only reason I did it at all was just to see what difficulty my poorly done Kin could handle. Now that I know, well, meh.



 

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Well i think i have the Best "Fire Kinetics Stone Mastery Build" The Game has to offer.
well I think you have a far more superior version of downs then most people on this game. GG.


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Originally Posted by Fire Kin Master View Post
for everyone saying that my build is crap this build sucks stop saying that and just post your farm build??? O wait you cant becasue you dont know how to make a farmer or yet you dont have one...what you need to do is take my farm build and run with it....
Haha. I posted my build in the other lame thread you started back on November 20th. Or did you forget this? I find it funny you copy most of my slotting (though you copied it badly because you don't understand game mechanics) and accuse me of not understanding how to make a farming fire/kin.

I don't even bring out my fire/kin to play very often. Largely because I think there's a stigma to them of being controlled by weak and naive players who build them only for farming and have no appreciable understanding of what the power sets can do.

You are a perfect text book example of this. You don't understanding game mechanics. You have no idea about optimized slotting. Instead of copying something that works, you instead think you know better and come up with something suboptimal. And then you get mad when people point it out to you. Is it possible for you to come across as a bigger noob? It's hard to conceive how.

And I feel sad for you if you think fire/kins are the state of the art for farming. They're not.


 

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Originally Posted by Fire Kin Master View Post
SO Yet you still fail to post your build....SHOW ME IM WRONG PROVE ME WRONG my build is the best
You don't have to have a Fire/Kin or build for that matter to see that your build is average. I'm sure you can farm fine with it, but so can an SO build. I don't have a Fire/Kin anymore, my Scrapper and Brute prove to be better at farming.


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Originally Posted by Fury Flechette View Post
Haha. I posted my build in the other lame thread you started back on November 20th. Or did you forget this? I find it funny you copy most of my slotting (though you copied it badly because you don't understand game mechanics) and accuse me of not understanding how to make a farming fire/kin.
Oh man, how could I forget that thread? Call Atta cause we have a new king of the trolls!


 

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lols this is a great way to spice up christmas day, I needed this, now off to work.

I will say this, where is the proof? I can say I have the highest IQ on the forums, and keep boasting about it, but without proof, people would just point and laugh at me.


 

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To be fair the OP did somewhat humble himself at the end of the second page.

Went from, "I'm the best, nobody can do better then me. Period end of story"

Ended up "Ok I Think have the best possible build, I'm willing to run a contest to prove it"

So in short, wait for his contest, show him your builds.


 

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Originally Posted by Gypsy_of_Paradox View Post
To be fair the OP did somewhat humble himself at the end of the second page.

Went from, "I'm the best, nobody can do better then me. Period end of story"

Ended up "Ok I Think have the best possible build, I'm willing to run a contest to prove it"

So in short, wait for his contest, show him your builds.
I posted my build in his first thread he made on November 20. All he managed to do was to copy it (badly) and now claims he has the "best" fire/kin/stone.

I don't have to run a contest to prove anything. Farming isn't competitive. The only bottom line is influence/infamy generated.

And he's not even reading these responses anyway, so even if I do show him up (zero motivation to do so), he'll make some lame excuse that it isn't valid, etc. Not worth any of my time.

The OP even sent me a PM asking me to post my build even though I posted my build back in his first thread back in November 20th. I've even linked to the post, but of course he's too dumb (or lazy) to click on the link. I'll link it HERE again.