Lord of the Rings might be a good one to try. Stargate is supposed to be coming out with an MMO as well as Star Trek sometime soon.
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I've had a hankering to add another MMO to those I play
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Originally Posted by MrCaptainMan
Can anyone recomend another MMO to play that isn't a horrible grindfest, doesn't rely predominantly on outdoor killquests, and that has travel powers or mounts that make travel as fast and simple as it is in CoH?
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. The problem is that CoH is somewhat unusual amongst MMOs in that it doesn't have those things and we've all gotten spoiled by playing it.
LoTRO is fun, especially if your into the lore, my wife is currently playing it.. Stargate is not going to come out anytime soon, if ever. STO will probably be around GR time.
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Originally Posted by MrCaptainMan
Can anyone recomend another MMO to play that isn't a horrible grindfest, doesn't rely predominantly on outdoor killquests, and that has travel powers or mounts that make travel as fast and simple as it is in CoH?
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- You're still giving money to NCSoft (though ArenaNet rather than Paragon Studios)
- Fantasy setting
- No monthly fee (you've got to buy the box for Prophecies/Factions/Nightfall/Eye of the North, though)
- I think you'd have to really try and be really good at the game in order to finish any of the campaigns before hitting level 20 (the level cap). And the stories are pretty good
(Note: While getting to the cap and going through the campaigns isn't grindy, those who want to grind have things to grind for. For example, Prestige Armor looks cool, has the maximum rating for your primary profession, and costs 60 platinum for a full set, along with hard-to-find crafting materials. And yet you can get normal armor with the same armor rating with more common materials and just 5 platinum for a set) - While there are "outdoor killquests", every area in the game that contains enemies is instanced, so "outdoor" in GW is more like a mission in CoH.
- While there aren't travel powers or mounts (there are powers which increase your speed, but they aren't really "travel powers"), you can open the world map and instantly travel to any city/town/outpost (non-instanced areas without enemies) you've already been to.
If you ever do decide to try PvP, you can create a PvP-only character, which has access to every power you've gotten on every single one of your other characters, every Hero (a type of NPC ally) you've picked up on other characters, and can buy any equipment buff item you've found on another character. (Or, you can buy the the various Skill Unlock Packs and the PvP Item Pack and have every skill/item in the game available to your PvP characters)
I hear Guild Wars 2 (targeted for 2010 or 2011) has a sidekicking system and (gasp) jumping
(If you do get into Guild Wars, I recommend getting and playing through the Eye of the North expansion on top of one of the campaigns, since GW2 is supposed to take place 250 years after the EotN storyline)
Edit: Also, Genius Operated Living Enchanted Manifestations (or, GOLEMs) are lots of fun
http://www.fimfiction.net/story/36641/My-Little-Exalt
Personally, I'd recommend against Guild Wars. Unless you *love* teaming, many of the later missions range from difficult to simply impossible with the AI henchmen. And the cities are infested with people standing around trash talking and generally being idiots in the broadcast chat. And often standing clustered around the merchants, to the point that it's difficult to even click on them.
I personally also greatly dislike the spell/skill system, but that's a personal bias.
I still have an active WoW account, but I can't really recommend it. It is, as others have pointed out, biased heavily against solo and casual players. It's actually quite easy to solo for "street sweeping" and general quests. However, the dungeons are literally impossible solo at any level where you can get XP for them. And the End Game content is *entirely* focused on Raids and PVP. The way the Raids are set up, they're pointless to even attempt if you have any desire to customize your character - if you aren't X build with at least Y gear, you simply won't be allowed to join. (Think of the Master of Statesman's Task Force snobs, except worse.)
Many features of that game are also deliberate time-sinks. Aside from travel, there's the fact that many of the later areas require you to grind Reputation with various factions to progress and gain access to new quest-givers. Getting to the highest level of faction with some groups will take a minimum of several weeks, if you log in and do their daily faction quests every single day.
Most of the Free2Play MMOs are simply not really free. You can download and log in without a subscription, but there will be features missing. Some simply give subscribers a bonus to XP, and some actually make it impossible to progress without spending real money for level-up training. And again, they tend to be infested with idiots - even if the resident GMs actually enforce any kind of rules, the jerks can simply make a new free acount and pop right back in.
Just roll up a short, bearded Shield/Mace scrapper and make yourself some Orcs in the MA.
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Just roll up a short, bearded Shield/Mace scrapper and make yourself some Orcs in the MA.
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Going to third (or are we up to more than that?) for LOTRO. It's my other MMO. I enjoy it very much, but then I'm a Tolkien geek. I do miss the SK feature when I play it though - best MMO feature in the history of ever, but it satisfies my crafting yen in a way that IOs can't.
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Have you tried WoW in the last year? In the last year, there have been so many changes that are primarily aimed toward the more casual player: mounts at 20 and 40, flying at 60, XP smoothing, power alterations... the game's a totally different beast from when I started playing the game (three years ago, I took a two year break because of the grindy-grindy). I honestly recommend trying it again if you haven't in the last year.|
Originally Posted by MrCaptainMan
I've tried WoW and WAR and AION, and they all blow massive chunks IMO. They're slow, grindy, punitive to casual players and the playerbase seems to be largely comprised of kids.
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Regarding the 'kids' comment, you want to get into a guild or build a friends list of people you enjoy playing with. (I would be willing to suggest my guild on Velen.) Also, I took trade and general out of my main visible chat window, just like I take most of City's generic chat channels (broadcast, help, etc) out of my main visible chat window. Too much garbage in there, in both games.
Yes. I am a City lover, and I am actually recommending WoW. Bring on the hate.
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I don't know why Dink thinks she's not as sexy as Jay was. In 5 posts she's already upstaged his entire career.
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I have heard good things about lineage 2
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I <3 LOTRO. Got a lifetime sub and haven't regretted a single penny.
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Originally Posted by LadyMage
Going to third (or are we up to more than that?) for LOTRO. It's my other MMO. I enjoy it very much, but then I'm a Tolkien geek. I do miss the SK feature when I play it though - best MMO feature in the history of ever, but it satisfies my crafting yen in a way that IOs can't.
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I have heard good things about lineage 2
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Which may or may not be some of the other person's good things. Depends on your view of proper dress |
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I have heard bad things.
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Orc&Pie No.53230 There is an orc, and somehow, he got a pie. And you are hungry.
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I'd second this. I played GW for a good long time. Loved it enough to have 2 accounts and one character of every class. COH was meant to be a 'break' from GW but its been a year here and I am still working my way along and loving it.
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Originally Posted by Fleeting Whisper
Guild Wars
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I m putting a third on guid wars. level cap is only 20, travel is fast, the quests are instanced so no fear of being jumped by a kill stealer, teaming is easy, the art is amazing, and no monthly fees. trilogy has all 3 major expanions in one, if you enjoy it enough, there is the expansion, but it didnt really grab me much. in my opinion, nightfall is the best, its african/middle eastern themed, so its somewhat unusual, the new classes are impressive and solo friendly, and the art is stronger than factions or prophecies.
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See, I don't see a problem with that. Lots of people obviously like WoW. I don't. And I have to admit I cringe a bit when I see that other game brought up, but that doesn't mean someone else can't like both.|
Originally Posted by Aggelakis
Yes. I am a City lover, and I am actually recommending WoW. Bring on the hate.
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It puzzles me why people are so divisive.
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Originally Posted by ShadowsBetween
Personally, I'd recommend against Guild Wars. Unless you *love* teaming, many of the later missions range from difficult to simply impossible with the AI henchmen.
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- Glint's Challenge (but the one reward I want from the mission is a Cloth of the Brotherhood, to get Brotherhood armor for one of my heroes, and I can buy that off a player)
- The various Polymock missions (because I'm terrible at Polymock)
- Kilroy's Punchout Tournament (though I haven't tried it recently, and I haven't tried changing my secondary profession to Assassin to get bonus damage with the brass knuckles)
- The Norn Fighting Tournament (I can get up to Magni the Bison, but I'm an Elementalist and he can squish me pretty quickly)
- A Time for Heroes (the last mission in Eye of the North, and since the floor of most of the boss room is lava, my AI allies die quickly)
Polymock, Killroy's Punchout Tournament, and the Norn Fighting Tournament don't allow for teams of any sort, anyway. I've teamed on maybe 3 missions throughout my gameplay, other than that it's been all Heroes and henchmen. (For a long time, I had all my Heroes set to /Ranger, and had them tame a Flamingo for a pet. ARMY OF FLAMINGOES!).
Also, the only storyline mission I've been unable to beat to date (A Time for Heroes) can be soloed without any support whatsoever, so it's more a matter of build than team size.
Edit: After I reached Ascension in the Prophecies campaign, I set my Hero team up as a Sabway build with Master of Whispers (obtained near the beginning of the Nightfall campaign if you skip over Magrid the Sly, or at the end of the Nightfall campaign if you follow Magrid), Olias (obtained near the beginning of the Nightfall campaign if you have both Nightfall and Prophecies), and Livia (obtained near the beginning or middle of the Eye of the North storyline, depending on the order you complete the quests in) - the team is actually very effective. My elementalist used to be an AoE fire nuker, but after getting Sabway set up, I swapped to a single target air spiker.
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Originally Posted by ShadowsBetween
And the cities are infested with people standing around trash talking and generally being idiots in the broadcast chat. And often standing clustered around the merchants, to the point that it's difficult to even click on them.
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http://www.fimfiction.net/story/36641/My-Little-Exalt
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I'll put in a vote for RuneScape. If you can live with the low-end graphics and the slow gameplay, it has a wonderful sense of humor. If you want to grind you can, but I played for years without and had plenty of fun and accomplished a lot and had a wonderful character. There is an issue with the young people playing it because you can play for free, but if you shell out the money there are many fewer paying kids.
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Originally Posted by MrCaptainMan
fancy something a bit fantasy-ish, I think. I've tried WoW and WAR and AION, and they all blow massive chunks IMO. They're slow, grindy, punitive to casual players and the playerbase seems to be largely comprised of kids.
What I'm after, I think, is something like CoH but with orcs lol. Can anyone recomend another MMO to play that isn't a horrible grindfest, doesn't rely predominantly on outdoor killquests, and that has travel powers or mounts that make travel as fast and simple as it is in CoH? I don't care for PvP either. Eco. |
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Dungeons and Dragons Online.
Free to Play
Based on the Dungeons and Dragons 3.5 rules
Fun quests with surprisingly intelligent enemies (foes who run to another room to summon help or ring an alarm gong to call for reinforcements)
Quick and fun missions - no endless grind!
The story isn't half bad (as far as MMO plots go)
Nice touches like puzzles to solve in some dungeons (I love the puzzles)
Good for solo or a team.
Adventure Regions aren't huge (but big enough to facilitate exploration) with an easy "recall" option to return to the city instantly, so no big time sinks for travel.
Did I mention it's FREE?
Got to be the best fantasy MMO out there right now.
My second choice is Guild Wars.
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This is over the top mental slavery.
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I don't play on Freedom, never have. I played around with the chat window options in Guild Wars, and I never found any way to disable a single channel - if there is such a thing, it's certainly not in an intuitive place. I don't see why I should have to flee the area because other people are morons.|
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You can switch districts, or take broadcast out of your chat window. (It's not like Atlas Park on Freedom is much better...) |
And I don't care for any game where I have to look up the "perfect" build and stat distribution to finish each mission. I want to build *my* character. And if my character is useless in half the missions, I see no real reason to play that game. As I said, it's just my opinion. But I strongly disliked that game.
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I gotta agree here, just discovered that DDO is now free yesterday morning so got an account and installed, had a fun time, though only got to half way through L2 with my first character so far, but it's looking fairly promising. And being that I used to play the P&P game I'm fair familier with the game mechanics so was dead easy to just pick up and play.|
Originally Posted by Smurch
Dungeons and Dragons Online.
Free to Play Based on the Dungeons and Dragons 3.5 rules Fun quests with surprisingly intelligent enemies (foes who run to another room to summon help or ring an alarm gong to call for reinforcements) Quick and fun missions - no endless grind! The story isn't half bad (as far as MMO plots go) Nice touches like puzzles to solve in some dungeons (I love the puzzles) Good for solo or a team. Adventure Regions aren't huge (but big enough to facilitate exploration) with an easy "recall" option to return to the city instantly, so no big time sinks for travel. Did I mention it's FREE? Got to be the best fantasy MMO out there right now. My second choice is Guild Wars. |
Instanced missions and wilderness zones mean no kill/loot stealing and has a nice ballance between solo and team play. Does support micro payment for "Better gear", Character slots (only get 2 on a free account) and the like, and a vip/subscription account so is open to however you wanna play.
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Then it's time for them to get off the cross, use the wood to build a bridge, and get over it.
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It's not Sword, Sorcery, Orcs, and Elves Fantasy but I'd recommend you give Fallen Earth a try. It's a post-apocalypse setting (think Fallout but with mutation-virus-plague rather than atomic-holocaust).
The game is a nice mixture between "real" sandbox type play and "standard" theme-park mission controlled play. It's got a strong and reasonably complex crafting element, and a skill-based levelling progression.
I don't want to paint it up as a perfect game, because it's certainly not without problems.
One of the biggest that I've seen, in my opinion at least, is that the economy stinks and (for now at least) nothing ever really wears out so there's no turn over in equipment / demand for pure crafters.
The game also has quite a few bugs and some performance issues, but those are at least being addressed, if not quite at what I would consider an acceptable speed (but I'm picky so I cut them some slack there).
They just recently had a free trial period over the Halloween days, and hopefully will do some more free trials soon.
Personally, I will never again buy a new MMO without having had a trial period on it [after being burned too many times], so I won't say to just go out and get it. But, if you can get onto a free trial, I'd definately recommend you give it a shot.
It's got potential, it just remains to be seen if it lives up to that potential as time goes on.
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I don't recommend Runescape to anybody. I started back when it was brand new (same server ran the website, forum, and game), and seeing 300 people online was a busy night. I played for a couple years and was a top player (#1 cook, top 5 crafter, and top 5 overall skill total). Then I realized all I was doing was standing in one place all day clicking the same object over and over and over and over, and there were so many other people using "Runebot" to skill their way up without any effort (maybe that's why I don't like doorsitting in CoH). It's not a game, It's a hamster wheel! lol. I just got tired of it and couldn't stand it anymore. Well.. To each his own. |
Originally Posted by GavinRuneblade
I'll put in a vote for RuneScape. If you can live with the low-end graphics and the slow gameplay, it has a wonderful sense of humor. If you want to grind you can, but I played for years without and had plenty of fun and accomplished a lot and had a wonderful character. There is an issue with the young people playing it because you can play for free, but if you shell out the money there are many fewer paying kids.
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At least this game you get to move around and do stuff, and there is more of a story and a lot more action. I'm not really saying Runescape is a horrible game... but it's a certain downgrade from CoH.
This is a question, so I guess it should go here, but it's not really a question about CoH as such.
I'm never going to stop playign CoH, but recently I've had a hankering to add another MMO to those I play (er, at present just CoH/V lol). I'm not at all looking for a replacement for CoH; my monetary situation has improved a lot recently, and what with being single and having a slight alteration to my work schedule, I think Ive got time for two.
I fancy something a bit fantasy-ish, I think. I've tried WoW and WAR and AION, and they all blow massive chunks IMO. They're slow, grindy, punitive to casual players and the playerbase seems to be largely comprised of kids.
What I'm after, I think, is something like CoH but with orcs lol.
Can anyone recomend another MMO to play that isn't a horrible grindfest, doesn't rely predominantly on outdoor killquests, and that has travel powers or mounts that make travel as fast and simple as it is in CoH?
I don't care for PvP either.
Eco.
MArcs:
The Echo, Arc ID 1688 (5mish, easy, drama)
The Audition, Arc ID 221240 (6 mish, complex mech, comedy)
Storming Citadel, Arc ID 379488 (lowbie, 1mish, 10-min timed)