Request/Suggest about KB switch

Could dev add Team Switch about Knock Back ?
Like team leader can choose Knock back allowed or not.
When KB not allowed, all KB power effect to KU or KD.
If feel KD or KU is too useful, how about add high taunt effect to KB power ?

I know Knock Back is 1 of most important action for "Hero feeling".
But in game play, especially team play, knock back is just harmful.
I saw many team wiped because KB happy KBing toggled mob to next group,
melee toon chasing KBed mob and bring more aggro etc
and I rarely seen team never broke after 4-5 wipe like that.

HELL no.

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What would you do with Bonfire, Repel and Repulsion Field?

These powers (and Im sure there are others) have knockBACK as an inherent balancing factor. Turn that into knockdown and you have Bonfire becoming an Ice Slick or earthquake with very nice damage, and Repel and Repulsion Field becoming autohit boss level mez auras effectively, both of which are hideously overpowered.

These also have the potential when misused to become some of the most aggravating powers a teammate can use.

I don't think you've really thought this through, to be honest.

There are plenty of MMOs without knockback, I think its one of CoH's nice points of difference myself.

Personally, I find knockback mildly annoying at worst and not really useful at best - I'm not buying the idea that it is, in most situations, as efficient in mitigation as other options would be, seeing as it scatters stuff for AoE damage, debuffs, controls, doesn't work against AVs/GMs, makes aggro harder to keep, and in the end requires time spent positioning.

I've seen energy blasters and claws scrappers hopping around to make their KB bump foes into a corner - it's still a waste of time most of the time. I've seen stormies running around herding stuff with Hurricane and Gale. That's great, except it took twenty seconds (in a best case scenario, most of the time it's much longer and there's often one or two mobs accidentally KBed away) to push these mobs into a corner except everyone was just fine steamrolling the whole group in fifteen seconds *before* the storm player joined the team.

Now I don't mind people using knockback, because if I'm playing for efficiency I'm not on a team anyway (thanks to the difficulty slider, only superteams can beat soloing in speed, and loot has always been easier to get alone). I'm just not convinced it's as useful as any other option. I mean, if you compare doing KB to doing nothing, of course it's better, but the fact is you always have another option, even in a team of eight blasters. Dead foes over scattered ones, thank you.

However, giving the control to the team leader isn't a good idea. As already said before, I'd rather see a personal option for anyone to change his KB to KD should he choose to do so, but really it's more a QoL feature than anything else (please don't bring up bonfire as a counterexample, different measures would be taken made for different powers obviously).

There's a simple option if you don't like knockback from other users, anyway ; don't team with people who have knockback powers.

Short Answer: No

Long Answer: KB is the inegral part of a number of sets. Sure, it can be annoying. That's not the sets fault. Thats the fault of players who...damnit, 'Need to lrn 2 pl4y!1'
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Anyway, there have never been, are no, and never will be, any plans to remove/change KB as it is, going by what the Devs have said and an educated guess on how these things work.

Even when playing main tank, KB has never been this huge problem that people claim it is. This is why God gave us Taunt.
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I'll have to say no to this.

Do I like heavy knockback? Nope!

But, if the team can't work around it, they're not trying. :P

I'm against this.
There is generally enough in game discrimination as it is.

If this goes live, I ask the Dev teams to set up a "must have Taunt" team setting for Tanks.

Out of hand!

Knockback isn't horrible. Like any other power/power-effect, it just needs to be used wisely.
Ummm... maybe like melee characters not chasing after enemies into other mobs...

Hey, it seems like your problem is really with melee characters chasing enemies into other mobs...

This thread sucks.

I refer the honorable OP to the reply Bill gave some moments ago.

/JRanger

KB isn't "just harmful". There's no need to nerf something extremely usefull because SOME people can't be bothered to learn to use it.

Or we could do everything fallowing your logic.

1) Some tankers like to use taunt to "herd" 2-3 mobs, and end up dying, causing a team wipe cause the rest of the team is in over there head. Let's remove taunt(power and effects) from this game.

2) Ranged attacks make it easy to do an "oups." (when you hit tab+ your attack then realize you targetted someone in another mob, aggroing them.) That can cause teamwipe. Let's remove all range attack from this game.

3)People under Super Speed or Speed Boost sometimes overshot and run throuh 1-2 mobs, aggroing them. Let's lower the speed cap, a lot.

4) Mezz makes it hard for brute to build fury. They also make healing useless because the enemies can't hurt anyone. Let's remove mezz from the game.

5) Sometimes, team wipes because they splitted. Whenever you go 100 fts away from the leader, you should automatically be teleported near him.

6) PvP is harmfull because it makes them nerf PvE. No more PvP!

7) PvE is harmfull because it makes then nerf PvP. no more PvE!


Fallow those 7 steps and CoH will be totally awesome! ( hint: this post containt sarcasm *winks*)