Pathetic.
I think you're thinking of "A Hero's Hero" from Maria Jenkins. Tina's arc is the one with the "You're supposed to fail this mission" mission. It only has Bobcat, Shadowhunter, Neuron and Anti-Matter in it.
Oops. Still pretty cool to face off against evil versions of the Phalanx and their sidekicks too.
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Yes, yes they were.
I kinda do, but I also kinda don't, as they were most definitely deleted for a reason.
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It was one of those times where you invoked Kanye West, sat back, and watched the show.
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GG, I would tell you that "I am killing you with my mind", but I couldn't find an emoticon to properly express my sentiment.
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Careful where you point that particular argument, because "when did X become an essential gameplay feature?" is a great catch-all defence against doing anything. Replace X with:
I'm sorry, when did earning badges become an essential gameplay feature?
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- markets
- IOs
- enhancements
- AE
- travel powers
- badges
- power customisation
or whatever you want and you can then handwave away any concerns about them because they aren't really 'essential'. You can play without them, but they are nice to have (and nicer to have done right).
Given that badges are a major retention / achievement mechanic that sees players come back in droves to earn the new ones / earn old ones on alts, thus keeping them playing, doing them right is important. The older content that contains the badges is often quite painful - and is noted by the devs as being quite painful - is not excused simply because it is older content.
The only thing on there that's really an "essential gameplay mechanic" is enhancements, and only because the game is developed with SO level performance being "par". The rest can all be done without. (Though I will admit the amount of people that go without travel powers is very small).
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Also Stamina.
Unfortunately true (disregarding MMs, regen, and Willpower).
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My Elec/Elec Blaster never has endurance issues either.
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and don't forget emps!
Unfortunately true (disregarding MMs, regen, and Willpower).
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you can't perma rec aura any more, but you can still get by if you pay attention.
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Why is his nipple on the side of his man boob?
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It's actually an organic clock - it moves to show the time of day - like a sundial shadow, but more man-boobish.
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The thing's practically in his armpit.
It's actually an organic clock - it moves to show the time of day - like a sundial shadow, but more man-boobish.
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I knew Mario was a mutant. This changes everything!!
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Reminds me of one of the few episodes I've seen of nip/tuck. In the one where the guy from charmed is trying to get someone to fix his nose after it was broken... he poaches a client from the doc's office he is in. He calls the kid's condition "Tripple Nipple".
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THIS!
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MUSHROOM KINGDOM!
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IS!
MUSHROOM KINGDOM!
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GG, I would tell you that "I am killing you with my mind", but I couldn't find an emoticon to properly express my sentiment.
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Why do people always list Masterminds when they talk about exceptions to Stamina? Yes, Mastermind outgoing DAMAGE doesn't cost them endurance, but everything else does, and in spades. At 20 endurance points per summon and three summons to drop and 45 endurance points per upgrade and two upgrades to make, that's150 points of endurance, or one and a half times your ENTIRE endurance bar. Even with endurance reduction, that's still a LOT, and that's just recovering from a henchman wipe (which isn't that rare) and not even counting all the costly support powers you may need to spam to delay said henchman wipe until your summons recharge.
Unfortunately true (disregarding MMs, regen, and Willpower).
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Yeah, I guess if you just run around and let the henchmen shoot things, it technically costs you nothing, but when the situation gets HARD and henchmen start dropping, then endurance is pretty much the only limiting factor you're looking at on a Mastermind.
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Yep, this is pretty much true. Esepcially with the new costly upgrades. You *can* go without stamina, if you're careful. But it can really, really hurt you in tough fights, you can easily end up fighting with a bunch of resummoned but unupgradable pets due to End costs. Plus they do tend to have higher Support Set End costs than their Corrupter/Controller/Defender counterparts.
Why do people always list Masterminds when they talk about exceptions to Stamina? Yes, Mastermind outgoing DAMAGE doesn't cost them endurance, but everything else does, and in spades. At 20 endurance points per summon and three summons to drop and 45 endurance points per upgrade and two upgrades to make, that's150 points of endurance, or one and a half times your ENTIRE endurance bar. Even with endurance reduction, that's still a LOT, and that's just recovering from a henchman wipe (which isn't that rare) and not even counting all the costly support powers you may need to spam to delay said henchman wipe until your summons recharge.
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With IO sets though MMs are probably one of the better ATs who can forgo Stamina once they have a bit of Recovery set bonuses slotted up (my Grav/TA controller pulls it off too).
My Warshade & my */Elec Brute are the two characters I have who can manage without Stamina with little or no +Recovery to offset it missing. Oh, and my Dark/WP Brute but that's sort of a wash since he does have Quick Recovery, Dark Consumption and Swift & Health anyway (I just prefer the spike of End of DC over Stamina).
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Mind you, I didn't say they need Stamina, and I have a level 50 Mercs/Traps Mastermind who runs all three Leadership toggles to prove it
Yep, this is pretty much true. Esepcially with the new costly upgrades. You *can* go without stamina, if you're careful. But it can really, really hurt you in tough fights, you can easily end up fighting with a bunch of resummoned but unupgradable pets due to End costs. Plus they do tend to have higher Support Set End costs than their Corrupter/Controller/Defender counterparts.
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Especially if you dont like sitting back doing nothing, and enjoy tossing an attack or two into the mix. I make use of Pulse Rifle Burst, the odd punch for laughs, and a Nem Staff. Cos that thing packs a punch.
Mind you, I didn't say they need Stamina, and I have a level 50 Mercs/Traps Mastermind who runs all three Leadership toggles to prove it
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Run two leadership toggles and a shield. And thats not counting Traps as a secondary. Certain secondaries are even more end consumptive, so Stamina, although you dont need it so bad at 20, it can still be quite necessary.
I still think that endurance use across the board needs balancing, because, with JUST SOs and normal usage, running without Stamina is a challenge that just doesn't seem like fun.
(Bar Regen, Willpower etc, YMMV)
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I guess when they're dining in hell, mushrooms are the main course?
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I kinda do, but I also kinda don't, as they were most definitely deleted for a reason.
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