Mastermind Power Profilation Idea,,,

Power profilation on Masterminds is not possible as you can't switch the powers as a whole with any other AT... but...

What if all powers stick that are pet related and the powers in-between cross over to other Mastermind sets.

For instance...

Dual Pistols (from Thugs mm) also available for Necromancy mm etc.

This should be technical possible.

I think you're going to have to explain the idea better, because I'm not really seeing what you're getting at. Are you suggesting that you want a new powerset, where the Zombie models use all the pistol powers of Thugs (for example)?

If that's what you're getting at, there are a few flaws with it.
- Zombies move like zombies, humans move like humans. If you reskinned humans with zombie flesh, you'd have unrealistic looking zombies. If you came up with zombie specific animations, then that's just like making an all new MM set, from an fx perspective.
- Limited utility: I just can't see too many people wanting a slightly different set of Zombies. The closer 2 sets are to each other, the more frustrated people tend to feel about the fact they can't switch and have to make a new character.
- wtf moments: Sure, the idea of Gang War with zombies sounds awesome. But doesn't the entire idea kind of break down when you look at the Grave Knights and the Lich? I'm not enamored of the image of my bulky armored zombies standing around shooting instead of mixing it up, and the idea of a robed Magic User diving in and smashing like a brute seems odd.

Like I said, I feel like I'm not getting your idea. Please explain more.

MMs needing prophylactics does finally explain where I keep getting those extra pets from..........

Lemur, I think what the OP is trying to say is that the Zombies and other summons would stay the same, but the other powers would change to the other set.

So, you'd summon zombies, grave knights, and the lich, and I'd imagine that the upgrade powers would be the same, but instead of the Dark blasts, you'd get pistol attacks.

Can we get Dark Pistols attacks?

So we could get laser and rocket shooting zombies? Or dark blasting mercs? Or bow and arrow kungfu robots? I'd imagine there would be a lot of techinical work for something like that to happen not to mention animation changes. All that and your mastermind primaries would be more than any class by the time you figure all the combinations between the summon types and the attack types associated with them.

Proliferation for masterminds is pretty much limited to secondary sets only unless they came up with a way to port something similar to Illusion and some of the other controller pet classes. However with what we know for sure in the demon summoning set in Going Rogue I would say the devs realize this limitation and are thinking of ways to boost the primary sets for masterminds to match closer to some of the other sets as needed. It requires a whole new set with the new models, animations, etc, etc, but if they have to do that anyway it might as well be a new set in my opinion than mixing/matching what's there or porting over something that doesn't quite fit or would probably take more work to do anyway.

I've always supported this, if only because I have a Bots/Traps who's a Malta Gunslinger.

I'd love this for my Zombie MM. She's a typical street punk who can summon zombies. Dark Blasts don't suit her at all.

Wait.. Masterminds have attacks? Duuuude.



I support this idea. Even if I would likely not make use of it because.. I never take MM attacks..

Not sure if this is a good idea.

The MM got the same type of attacks as his pets. Thugs got pistols. Droids got pulse rifle, Mercs got an AR, Ninja got a bow and zombie got dark blast. Besides thematically correct, this is also a limiting factor for the MM. Inherently, the damage type he does is the same as his pets. Giving a thug MM dark blast for example would upset that balance.

For flavour reasons, I'd like to take Dark Blasts with my Thugs/Dark MM.

I think the attacks are coupled with their sets for thematic feel, not for balance.

Interesting idea, but you would run into snags with robotics. I cannot see the bots using pistols maybe bullets from their existing gun ports would work, and even though the assault bot is a little aggro happy, I just can't see it using the melee moves of the bruiser.

Then you run into the Bots powers themselves, just think of an Oni wearing the Assault bot's Rocket launchers?

Ninja Bots using stars and swords, seems a little out there. Nice idea, but implementation would make BAB REALLY hate Villains.

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