Don't you just love....

When new people join this game and ask a general question about an AT or a build, and the replies are like this...... 1)"Be more specific", 2)"What are you looking for", 3)"We need more information about your play style"....

1) How specific to people expect a NEW player to be about an AT they know nothing about?

2) Do "experienced" players REALLY expect a NEW player to know if they need more recharge as opposed to more damage or accuracy or if they need more resist than def?

3) I doubt the NEW players even have a playstyle to say if they prefer to solo or team, mish or farm, rather play a tank or troller if they haven't played every AT available.

I seen a post by someone with 12 posts and just joined this month ask for a list of powers he should choose or skip for a Fire/Dark Corruptor. Now as exp. players, we know about which powers may be better picked than others. Instead of seeing this is a new player and giving some GENERAL info, he gets replies like the ones above. I mean, really?

That's all. Flame, reply, give your thoughts if ya wanna.

I never ask clarifying questions, there is one right way to play and it's mine.

I don't get what you're saying, could you be more specific?

LOL, sry couldn't help myself. I hear ya buddy, when I started it was the same.

What exactly are you looking for, eryg2?

New players likely played other games before, so there's that.

Playstyle in other games usually translates into this game one way or another. People who enjoy DD classes will always enjoy DD classes, people who like support will always like support etc

What's the best build? Please answer briefly and correctly without asking for further details.

Thanks!

I don't see the real question here. It seems more like a statement/rant in the "body" of a question form. AKA the Rhetorical Question.

Most often it's brilliant questions like "which AT is the best?"
And yeah, instead of telling him the obvious truth based on our superior knowledge we go and ask pointless trivia like: "Best at doing what?" "What faction?" "What do you like doing?"
Stupid stuff like that.
i feel for you, eryq2.

People ask all these questions so they can help you, as in, you specificly.

I imagine it's like tech-support, really. If you really want to help the person on the other end of the line, you need all the information you can get. More often than not, though, they will start with very general statements, and you need to ask your way through before you can actually start helping.

Take the ever-popular "What AT is best?" question, for example. We cannot possibly know what that person already knows and what they expect, what their preferences are, etc etc. Maybe they have very limited play-time or they want to be as self-sufficient as possible, so Scrappers are the way to go, or they want to play solely in teams, so Controllers will suit them best. Or maybe they just prefer red-side and all the previous suggestions are mood, anyway.

Yes, we could tell them that Scrappers hurt a lot in melee and can take a hit while Blasters do ranged damage but a soft breeze knocks them down but that's already the info you get when you're choosing ATs in the game. How general are we supposed to get? Where does keeping it simple stop and being needlessly vague start?



As far as the scenario of someone asking which powers to pick and which to skip, even that requires knowing what the player expects. Hell, even the loading screen hints say that some powers are better suited for team-play while others are suited for solo-play.

Now, I could either give him a run-down of all the powers and the various situations they are useful or useless in, but chances are, the player being new, they'll just be needlessly confused. I could give them suggestions for a solo build, but then it turns out they actually team more than they play solo and in the end, they'll feel they have an inadequate build. OR I could ask them those questions and know exactly what they need.

They're already a toon, so I'll take them on a walk around Atlas and kill some people. They figure out their powers pretty quick. And I try not to critique them, even when they've chosen a controller and have no clue what they do.

A good sewer team will show them what who does. Finding a good sewer team is the problem.

If it's "Where's the tailor?" from a level 6, I'll let them know, regardless, but I'll also tell them it doesn't matter until 20.

Most common question for me is, "How did you do that?" Never tell, in fact, do /e alakazamreact.

Is there some new feature I missed that lets me know that name I see in a chat channel asking a question belongs to a new player? Cuz unless I'm standing close enough to the questioner to check its vet badges I have no idea how long its been playing the game.

Also I've been playing for 60+ months and theres a lot of stuff I still don't know about the game. If I'm clueless about a lot of stuff why would I assume that someone asking a question is a new player.

10-16-2009 03:56 PMLern too speel. It's not threw. It's through. Threw = To throw something in the past tense. Gahh!!!



Yep heres the comment thought I'd share

lol.

I was refering to forum replies, not broadcasts in game. I was hoping it would be clear, since i refered to a post in my last paragraph.

We could do another thing also. Have all new players asking questions be redirected to ParaginWiki and tell them to RTFM. But players ask a newbie question cause they dont know how to specifically ask for something else but i guess they expect for an answer which is to be properly given after you ask the newbie player those questions.
Take the ''Which is the strongest archetype?'' question for example. All are strong in their own special way. Range strong,,buff strong,mellee strong. etc. So you want to know about the player to recomment the best at for him or her.
Did you ever call a technical support service ? You either press a lot of numbers untill you get to talk to someone or you answer a lot of questions untill you get the answer you're looking for.