Any chance of access to USA servers pls?


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Originally Posted by Poltergeist View Post
True. Although the numbers are sometimes nearly equal to those of Defiant. Then again, just the english client/no German server is likely to scare the rest away. I know of enough Germans who are not that confident in their grasp of English. Of course that would be the worst-case scenario for Zukunft.
The same is probably true for Vigilance as well. But it is a good opportunity to learn English and lets face it. A lot of the native English speakers is not that much more proficient in their home language.


 

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Originally Posted by Leese View Post
Is this actually impossible though, or the Power Customisation kind of impossible?

Sorry if that seems a little snide, but over the last few months the devs have proven that when it comes to groundbreaking changes that are of immense value to the playerbase, they have the skill, the ideas and the determination to make it happen.

I cannot think of a game change that would have more value to the EU playerbase than a server list merge. Period.
Problem is that the EU client seem to differ from the US client. Biggest difference probably being the languages supported.


 

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Originally Posted by Drednaught_EU View Post
Title says it all......reason behind this request is that Union + Defiant are pretty dead tbh.
Merging the server lists seems completely reasonable.

Plus increasing the US server list by four and giving EU subscribers the ability to make 132 more characters = win


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Problem is that the EU client seem to differ from the US client. Biggest difference probably being the languages supported.
This is probably surmountable.

I'm not sure about the logistical issues of merging the server lists.


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Originally Posted by GrinningSpade View Post
Problem is that the EU client seem to differ from the US client. Biggest difference probably being the languages supported.
Dunno, I can use the EU client to access both, just by copying and renaming the launcher file (removing the .eu from the middle of it). So the EU client supports the US one (don't know about the other way around).


 

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Dunno, I can use the EU client to access both, just by copying and renaming the launcher file (removing the .eu from the middle of it). So the EU client supports the US one (don't know about the other way around).
This was the official answer we got from a Red Name a while ago. I hope that the differences are so minor that it is easy to adapt so we can have that list merger.


 

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Originally Posted by Captain_Photon View Post
That's as may be, and I expect it's true - but I also expect a lot of those German gamers would still have been annoyed if they'd been presented with an actual German release of a game that required reading and writing English. Or, at least, I bet that's what the thought process at NCsoft was when they decided to have German-language servers.
That... Is a very strange way to think. Now, I do know Germans have this tendency to dub and translate EVERYTHING, so having something NOT be in German may be jarring for them, but as the citizen of a country which almost never gets anything localised except by local translators, I cannot even begin to imagine why having an American game ship in English could be seen as anything but perfectly normal. Maybe I'm wrong, I don't know, but it seems to me that is the status quo.


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I can attest that the better spoken English speakers, at least on Union, tend to not be English.
Godshelpus...
That would be the Scots then...

I would like to add my vote for a merge of the server lists.


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That would be the Scots then...

I would like to add my vote for a merge of the server lists.
Gang away witcha, ya wee jobbie! Ye can tak oor lives, butcha cannae tak oor troosers!
Crivens!

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In all seriousness, the quality of English from English people on the EU servers is nothing short of...well, sad, really. Its worse that its not a surprise, given what people sound like on the street.


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I cannot even begin to imagine why having an American game ship in English could be seen as anything but perfectly normal.
Just trying to see it from the point of view of the suits at NC (who, after all, are at the ultimate level Korean, so to them the American version was annoyingly foreign - see also the short and unsatisfactory life of City of Hero). In retrospect, that was a silly thing to do; I'd as soon fathom the mindset of that guy who went to an Internet café and played World of Warcrap until he died.

My assumptions are probably also colored by the depressing-and-mostly-accurate international perception of my own countrymen as a pack of witless louts who won't tolerate anything that ain't in Amurrican, gawdamit. For my part, I wouldn't play a German game in German not because it would somehow offend me, but because I don't know German and wouldn't be able to tell what's going on.

A further wrinkle is that in an MMO the problem is not only what language the game is in, but what language the other players are using. If they (from my perspective) added all the EU servers to the list available on my client today, and I found my way onto the French server, I could probably figure out from context and layout what most of the buttons and menu items do, but I wouldn't have the slightest idea what any of the players were saying. My knowledge of French doesn't extend very far beyond "hello" and "I'm sorry, I don't speak French," and I would probably spell those wrong.

(The thing about menus and buttons reminds me - my mother's husband used to have an old Mercedes-Benz, from before they bothered translating the controls or indicators for the US market. It was kind of fun driving around in that old boat, trying to work out what controls did what and which dial showed which status. It was relatively easy to figure out from context that the dial labeled BENZIN was the gas gauge, for instance, but I still don't know what the knob marked ENTLÜFT did.)


 

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Personally I believe that a Server list merge is...a good idea, overall.

Whilst it would create problems with Global names clashes (I think this is one of the problems, although I could be mixing up separate issues) and the like, and people would no doubt be dicomforted for a while, things would eventually settle down, and most (I've no doubt some would find fault, that's just life) would enjoy their in-game time all the more.


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A further wrinkle is that in an MMO the problem is not only what language the game is in, but what language the other players are using. If they (from my perspective) added all the EU servers to the list available on my client today, and I found my way onto the French server, I could probably figure out from context and layout what most of the buttons and menu items do, but I wouldn't have the slightest idea what any of the players were saying. My knowledge of French doesn't extend very far beyond "hello" and "I'm sorry, I don't speak French," and I would probably spell those wrong.
I think a warning near the server list about servers would be in order. For example, by Zukunft, a warning like:
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This server's native language is German. All the players here speak German, and your client will have German instead while on this server.

Ce serveur langue maternelle est l'allemand. Tous les joueurs ici parler allemand, et votre client aura allemand à la place tandis que sur ce serveur.

Dieser Server Muttersprache ist Deutsch. Alle Spieler hier sprechen Deutsch, und Ihr Kunde wird sich in Deutsch statt, während auf diesem Server.
And similar for the French and English servers, replacing "German", "allemand", and "Deutsch" with the proper languages, respectively.

(As I have no knowledge of German and French beyond a few phrases like "hello" "goodbye" "Do you speak English?" "Where is the bathroom?" and "I love you", I used Google's translater.)

Frankly, I would love to be able to roll alts on Union and Defiant. I'm running out of room!


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(The thing about menus and buttons reminds me - my mother's husband used to have an old Mercedes-Benz, from before they bothered translating the controls or indicators for the US market. It was kind of fun driving around in that old boat, trying to work out what controls did what and which dial showed which status. It was relatively easy to figure out from context that the dial labeled BENZIN was the gas gauge, for instance, but I still don't know what the knob marked ENTLÜFT did.)
Entlüft is shortened from either entlüften (to vent, to deflate in case of tyres) or Entlüftung (outbound ventilation). Seems like the button was used to force air or gas from somewhere. Presumably something modern-day cars do automatically cause I haven't seen one of those in my 15 years of driving.


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Entlüft is shortened from either entlüften (to vent, to deflate in case of tyres) or Entlüftung (outbound ventilation). Seems like the button was used to force air or gas from somewhere. Presumably something modern-day cars do automatically cause I haven't seen one of those in my 15 years of driving.
Ah! That explains it, then, I think. It was near the controls that made the heater work, so it must've opened some kind of cabin vent or some such.


 

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I think a warning near the server list about servers would be in order. For example, by Zukunft, a warning like:


And similar for the French and English servers, replacing "German", "allemand", and "Deutsch" with the proper languages, respectively.

(As I have no knowledge of German and French beyond a few phrases like "hello" "goodbye" "Do you speak English?" "Where is the bathroom?" and "I love you", I used Google's translater.)

Frankly, I would love to be able to roll alts on Union and Defiant. I'm running out of room!
Lol, my German is limited but it does not look right. Rather garbled together actually.

I have played a little on the German Server as I was out of space. I brought over one of those toons to Union. Now when I play her, it is a weird mix of English and German environment I play in. I asked Support how to remedy this and while I did everything they asked me to. It is still the mix. Makes me smile every time, especially when people team with me and go what what what when there client suddenly sprouts German not and then


 

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Originally Posted by Snow View Post
I am happy the way Defiant and Union are currently, id not want to merge them, or leta lone be merged with US servers.

If what your looking for is access to the US servers alongside access to the EU ones that be fair enough. But dont want Defiant/Union to jsut dissapear and become merged
Srsly Snow, with a stance like that why bother playing a MMO? Outside of the SG/gobals there is little to No people avail to team with on EU servers, specifically Defiant. May as well be playing freedom force and saving your money.


 

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Srsly Snow, with a stance like that why bother playing a MMO? Outside of the SG/gobals there is little to No people avail to team with on EU servers, specifically Defiant. May as well be playing freedom force and saving your money.

Exactly.
I don't understand it why some of the europeans are against a server merge.
How can you call it an mmorpg like this, the european servers are like a ghost town!
I really don't hope that players like snow are the ones stopping ncsoft from seeing the problem and putting in that server merge.


 

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Exactly.
I don't understand it why some of the europeans are against a server merge.
How can you call it an mmorpg like this, the european servers are like a ghost town!
I really don't hope that players like snow are the ones stopping ncsoft from seeing the problem and putting in that server merge.
If NCSoft thought a server merge was A) Possible, B) Worth it money wise, C) Worth it for the playerbase, D) worth it promotion-wise, they would do it.

No one player can stop the devs doing whatever the frak they want. IF a group of players comes up with a good counter-arguement for a change (And this is a big IF and a big group) then there is precedent where things have changed. But not on something of that magnitude, not afaik anyway.


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Just logged on to EU test server for the Halloween trial and was only lvl 50 in Peregrine,in Atlas there was 1 NC soft rep and 1 other player,says it all really doesn't it . . . . .


 

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Just logged on to EU test server for the Halloween trial and was only lvl 50 in Peregrine,in Atlas there was 1 NC soft rep and 1 other player,says it all really doesn't it . . . . .
it's the BLOODY TEST SERVER! many people only look on test when there's something new to see, but there are far more than don't, myself included who prefer to play on Live and actually do something constructive with their playtime.


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American censors seem to be very against anything that is 'sexual' but kind of blaise about violence and gore. The American version of Age of Conan had the nipples removed from the semi-naked female demon pet and her backside covered up.

The Germans are the reverse and kind of blaise about the sexual but very against blood and violence, so the big, really gorey fatality moves your character occasional pulls off (such as the curb stomp head squish) had the blood removed and some were taken out altogether (such as the curb stomp).

The rest of the world had a completely uncensored version which had a female succubus pet in just booties complete with nipples and the over the top fatalities.
This also applies to the game "The Witcher"... U.S. versions got censored, whereas the rest of the world got to "see more booty," so to speak...

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What language barrier? The one that precludes you and I from communicating you mean? Most Germans I know who play online know enough English to read an intermediate complexity novel. They might not be able to express themselves as easily as they may comprehend, but they'll be more legible than a native speaker who talks in all single letters and numbers.
Agreed... I lived in Europe for 4 and a half years, and I have several German, Belgian, and French friends who can speak better "Oxford" (correct) English than many of my American friends that completely slaughter their own language with slang...

As a side note, you can always try Amazon.com or Ebay to purchace a NA version of City of Heroes, and that will give you access to the American servers sooner without waiting for a "server merge."

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As a side note, you can always try Amazon.com or Ebay to purchace a NA version of City of Heroes, and that will give you access to the American servers sooner without waiting for a "server merge."
That's an option - if you don't mind not having access to your stored inf, your friends list, your veteran rewards, your unlocked HEATS and VEATS, and your super-boosters/GvE bonuses/Power Slide/so on.


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Just logged on to EU test server for the Halloween trial and was only lvl 50 in Peregrine,in Atlas there was 1 NC soft rep and 1 other player,says it all really doesn't it . . . . .
Yeah. Says that you should have been on at 7, when there were a number of teams in Atlas, where we successfully completed 1 in 3 attempts at the event.

Oh, but of course, we dont count, because we dont support your FACT that the EU servers are dead, do we?

Says that people need to stop F-ing d00m mongering, it's older then Statesman's grandfather...


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I think we are going about this the wrong way. I think we should handle this issue like professional sports teams do.

Here's what we do. We sit the NA and EU servers down and we trade Freedom to the EU servers and in return they give us Defiant, Union, and Zukunft.

Everybody wins. They get the highest pop server in the game, and we get rid of Freedom.


 

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That's an option - if you don't mind not having access to your stored inf, your friends list, your veteran rewards, your unlocked HEATS and VEATS, and your super-boosters/GvE bonuses/Power Slide/so on.
True. Just depends on how badly and how quickly you want to get over to the "NA side."

If you can deal with the "sacrifice," then you can do it right away. If you can't deal with it, then I guess you're screwed for the time being.

Just offering that as an option.

"Alien"


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