Release Notes for 19.20090918.3T - 9/24/09
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Posted on: 2009-09-24 13:40 in The Global Training Room Test Server
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Wow, not even upwards? Is this just a temporary fix to prevent people from using the -1 level setting on Master Of attempts until you can restrict that situation specifically? Or is this to solve a different problem?
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Originally Posted by Niviene
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Yay, i so hoped being able to run TFs an get the MO badge on -1 was a bug, it makes it way to easy.
Coulda fixed it earlier though, but nevermind.
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Nooooo, the riktispec is unplayable on any difficulty less than +1 as it insists on spawning -2s otherwise, meaning all your knockdown becomes knockback.|
Originally Posted by Niviene
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Also the -1 setting is extremely useful if you don't want the leader of the TF to be the highest level toon on it for travel power or stability of connection reasons, although I can see it makes the "Master of" badges too easy to obtain.
Please apply this change to "Master of" attempts only, or simply disallow the -1 setting on TFs, and exemp the party to the highest level member of the party regardless of who the leader is.
This change will also make Smurphy cry as he runs all his ITFs on invincible and they're fun.
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KInetics - Controllers/Corrupters - Siphon Power, Fulcrum Shift and Transference still have default colors on the effect that is on Friendsly/Self and isn't fully colorable like the Defenders set of Kinetics
New - Controllers - Kinetics - Fulcrumshift is missing now from the powers section where you can color them, its no longer in the list, but is still there for Defenders/Corrupters.
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Originally Posted by Minotaur
Nooooo, the riktispec is unplayable on any difficulty less than +1 as it insists on spawning -2s otherwise, meaning all your knockdown becomes knockback.
Also the -1 setting is extremely useful if you don't want the leader of the TF to be the highest level toon on it for travel power or stability of connection reasons, although I can see it makes the "Master of" badges too easy to obtain. Please apply this change to "Master of" attempts only, or simply disallow the -1 setting on TFs, and exemp the party to the highest level member of the party regardless of who the leader is. This change will also make Smurphy cry as he runs all his ITFs on invincible and they're fun. |
Of all the I16 changes, the -1 taskforces i've been running all week are the one thing i didn't like at all. I ran a LRSF at -1 just to see if the end av's were 49. They were. it was jokingly easy. After running that, i had a concern that most, if not all, TF's after that would be set to wussy. And, i wasn't let down... it's bad enough people always want to "speed" run everything, now they want to speed run it at -1. No challange, crappy XP... No thanks.
Personally, i'd just disable the -1 feature in general, having your basic solo +0 +0 setting, you know, normal mob, be the baseline, and only allow it to work UP from there. But that's me. This is, at least, a step in the right direction. IMO of course.
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Wait, what? We can't even adjust them upwards in level?|
Originally Posted by Niviene
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Please don't restrict that.
Blue
American Steele: 50 BS/Inv
Nightfall: 50 DDD
Sable Slayer: 50 DM/Rgn
Fortune's Shadow: 50 Dark/Psi
WinterStrike: 47 Ice/Dev
Quantum Well: 43 Inv/EM
Twilit Destiny: 43 MA/DA
Red
Shadowslip: 50 DDC
Final Rest: 50 MA/Rgn
Abyssal Frost: 50 Ice/Dark
Golden Ember: 50 SM/FA
Oh, no... I can see this having a definite negative impact on how hard it is for me to complete a Positron now...
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Guys, no. Just say no.|
Originally Posted by Niviene
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You've made it so you can't change the difficulty in Ourobros. (Yes, I tested this.)
Edit: It does still work in the AE, despite it being similar to "TF mode"
Blue
American Steele: 50 BS/Inv
Nightfall: 50 DDD
Sable Slayer: 50 DM/Rgn
Fortune's Shadow: 50 Dark/Psi
WinterStrike: 47 Ice/Dev
Quantum Well: 43 Inv/EM
Twilit Destiny: 43 MA/DA
Red
Shadowslip: 50 DDC
Final Rest: 50 MA/Rgn
Abyssal Frost: 50 Ice/Dark
Golden Ember: 50 SM/FA
"Added restrictions to prevent player difficulty from affecting Task / Strike Forces" says to me that they removed 'Some' features otherwise it would have been worded "Removed the ability for player difficulty to affect Task / Strike Forces. Ie the ability to run -1. Just my opinion anyway 
Has anyone tested it yet?
kind
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Yes. You cannot change the level or number of foes in either direction.|
Originally Posted by Kindeller
"Added restrictions to prevent player difficulty from affecting Task / Strike Forces" says to me that they removed 'Some' features otherwise it would have been worded "Removed the ability for player difficulty to affect Task / Strike Forces. Ie the ability to run -1. Just my opinion anyway
Has anyone tested it yet? |
I really don't understand why we can't increase the setting for TFs, and Ouro needs to allow the full range of settings, including -1s.
I really, really hope this is updated before it goes live.
Blue
American Steele: 50 BS/Inv
Nightfall: 50 DDD
Sable Slayer: 50 DM/Rgn
Fortune's Shadow: 50 Dark/Psi
WinterStrike: 47 Ice/Dev
Quantum Well: 43 Inv/EM
Twilit Destiny: 43 MA/DA
Red
Shadowslip: 50 DDC
Final Rest: 50 MA/Rgn
Abyssal Frost: 50 Ice/Dark
Golden Ember: 50 SM/FA
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Does it now use the melee damage modifier instead of the range damage modifier?| Darkness Mastery - Night Fall: This power should no longer state it accepts To Hit Buff enhancement sets and should correctly accept To Hit Debuff and Accuracy To Hit Debuff sets. |
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| Added restrictions to prevent player difficulty from affecting Task / Strike Forces |
Be well, people of CoH.
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I don't think that's what it means. I think they just mistyped what they meant. They probably are just eliminating the stupid -1 TF stuff and making stuff like the end STF AVs spawn at the right level.
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Originally Posted by Bill Z Bubba
If this means that we have to run TF/SFs at low difficulty, then TF/SFs won't be run by me. Bad move.
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Please read where I tested it and posted that, indeed, you cannot increase the difficulty. Including in Ouroboros.
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Originally Posted by Kahlan_
I don't think that's what it means. I think they just mistyped what they meant. They probably are just eliminating the stupid -1 TF stuff and making stuff like the end STF AVs spawn at the right level.
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Blue
American Steele: 50 BS/Inv
Nightfall: 50 DDD
Sable Slayer: 50 DM/Rgn
Fortune's Shadow: 50 Dark/Psi
WinterStrike: 47 Ice/Dev
Quantum Well: 43 Inv/EM
Twilit Destiny: 43 MA/DA
Red
Shadowslip: 50 DDC
Final Rest: 50 MA/Rgn
Abyssal Frost: 50 Ice/Dark
Golden Ember: 50 SM/FA
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Wow, that sucks bigtime. |
Originally Posted by UberGuy
Please read where I tested it and posted that, indeed, you cannot increase the difficulty. Including in Ouroboros.
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Originally Posted by UberGuy
Please read where I tested it and posted that, indeed, you cannot increase the difficulty. Including in Ouroboros.
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You tried this on a TF on the test server or only in Ouroboros?
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Yay! I have a character that went to Nerva Archapelago (sp?) and worked the CoH Family badge, and he wasn't going anywhere. Tg it's fixed |
Originally Posted by Niviene
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I think the -1 feature should remain for solo content, primarily for low damage/defense types like some defender builds. I have no problem with it being ignored and treated as +0 if you have more than one person on the team, or are on an actual TF (I think it should be available for Ouroboros content).
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Originally Posted by KingSnake
Personally, i'd just disable the -1 feature in general, having your basic solo +0 +0 setting, you know, normal mob, be the baseline, and only allow it to work UP from there. But that's me. This is, at least, a step in the right direction. IMO of course.
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Legacy of a Rogue (ID 459586, Entry for Dr. Aeon's Third Challenge)
Death for Dollars! (ID 1050)
Dr. Duplicate's Dastardly Dare (ID 1218)
Win the Past, Own the Future (ID 1429)
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With the help of the one person I could find on test logged in as a hero, I tested this on the Synapse TF. My settings were +2 foes set for a team of 6. What I saw (after the other chap dropped) were +0 and +1 foes spawned for what I would expect for a team of two characters.
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Originally Posted by Clouded
You tried this on a TF on the test server or only in Ouroboros?
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Blue
American Steele: 50 BS/Inv
Nightfall: 50 DDD
Sable Slayer: 50 DM/Rgn
Fortune's Shadow: 50 Dark/Psi
WinterStrike: 47 Ice/Dev
Quantum Well: 43 Inv/EM
Twilit Destiny: 43 MA/DA
Red
Shadowslip: 50 DDC
Final Rest: 50 MA/Rgn
Abyssal Frost: 50 Ice/Dark
Golden Ember: 50 SM/FA
I wonder if it was unintentional or not. Since AE isn't affected I have to think it was intentional.
If so, I don't like it. Less options = less good.
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Bear in mind that the AE may use a separate set of similar-seeming rules. Remember, when the new settings first came out in beta, the AE ignored them completely.
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Originally Posted by Clouded
I wonder if it was unintentional or not. Since AE isn't affected I have to think it was intentional.
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Blue
American Steele: 50 BS/Inv
Nightfall: 50 DDD
Sable Slayer: 50 DM/Rgn
Fortune's Shadow: 50 Dark/Psi
WinterStrike: 47 Ice/Dev
Quantum Well: 43 Inv/EM
Twilit Destiny: 43 MA/DA
Red
Shadowslip: 50 DDC
Final Rest: 50 MA/Rgn
Abyssal Frost: 50 Ice/Dark
Golden Ember: 50 SM/FA
Well, I would suggest leaving TF/SFs unaffected by the difficulty contacts, as they are with this new patch, but adding the ability to increase the difficulty of them (in the same X number of players and Plus X level, but without the -1option) to the "Set Challenges" screen you get when starting them or flashbacks.
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That would be fine with me. I'm hopeful that, if this isn't some sort of brain fart, it's actually a precursor to a change of that sort.
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Originally Posted by Trickshooter
Well, I would suggest leaving TF/SFs unaffected by the difficulty contacts, as they are with this new patch, but adding the ability to increase the difficulty of them (in the same X number of players and Plus X level, but without the -1option) to the "Set Challenges" screen you get when starting them or flashbacks.
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Blue
American Steele: 50 BS/Inv
Nightfall: 50 DDD
Sable Slayer: 50 DM/Rgn
Fortune's Shadow: 50 Dark/Psi
WinterStrike: 47 Ice/Dev
Quantum Well: 43 Inv/EM
Twilit Destiny: 43 MA/DA
Red
Shadowslip: 50 DDC
Final Rest: 50 MA/Rgn
Abyssal Frost: 50 Ice/Dark
Golden Ember: 50 SM/FA
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I agree: lets put all difficulty settings for a TF into the Set Challenges screen......also an option to shut off cut scenes would be great too.
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Originally Posted by Trickshooter
Well, I would suggest leaving TF/SFs unaffected by the difficulty contacts, as they are with this new patch, but adding the ability to increase the difficulty of them (in the same X number of players and Plus X level, but without the -1option) to the "Set Challenges" screen you get when starting them or flashbacks.
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