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Posted on: 2009-09-24 13:40 in The Global Training Room Test Server
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Originally Posted by CoX_Junkie
Throwing a hissy fit nerd rage on the forums about a change to the game? Lolz, Sad.
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Settle down, I can sense the tears coming.
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I'm guessing that one of the reasons is that high level TF runs distort merit calculations.
If it is, then just don't count those runs, please.
Removing the ability to have any kind of challenge for a team other than maybe 4 of the hardest TFs is a bad idea. That's not an exaggeration. Most teams trivialize most of the game. Base challenge should be easy, but there should be higher settings for stronger teams.
This needs to be emphasized. Without +x TFs many teams will have almost no non-trivial PVE options.
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Originally Posted by ChaosExMachina
Removing the ability to have any kind of challenge for a team other than maybe 4 of the hardest TFs is a bad idea. That's not an exaggeration. Most teams trivialize most of the game. Base challenge should be easy, but there should be higher settings for stronger teams.
This needs to be emphasized. Without +x TFs many teams will have almost no non-trivial PVE options. |
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Originally Posted by Niviene
Added restrictions to prevent player difficulty from affecting Task / Strike Forces
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Wow, this TF change sucks. I'm okay with it as it disallows the -1 setting, but I am not okay with it as it disallows any setting above standard. If a TF team is capable of running with enemies 2 or 3 levels higher than the team (I'd say 95% of my TF teams are) why shouldn't they be allowed to?
EDIT: Also, where are my PvP travel suppression changes to Mind Link and Fiery Embrace? You fixed the accolades, this shouldn't be any different. 
I have to agree with those asking to not go forward with this change. I would rather have a bunch of people running -1 TFs than force everyone else to play on +0. Is it that big of a deal if people get merits faster? Or get Master badges? -1 TFs are kinda cheap, but I don't think they're cheap enough to remove the ability of the rest of the playerbase to challenge themselves without the "forced gimp" Oro options.
Add me to the list that wants to make sure that the +level difficulty option remains for TFs. I did an ITF last night on the equivalent of 'Unyielding' simply because my team was capable of it. I'd have hated for that team to run at +0/+0.
Also, taking away the difficulty options for Oro will, frankly, kinda suck.
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Originally Posted by CoX_Junkie
Settle down, I can sense the tears coming.
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Originally Posted by UberGuy
Guys, no. Just say no.
You've made it so you can't change the difficulty in Ourobros. (Yes, I tested this.) Edit: It does still work in the AE, despite it being similar to "TF mode" |
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Originally Posted by JeremyM
Actually... I would like it if they made Ouroboros more like AE in the mode... so you can add and remove teammates like you can for any other kind of mission.
x Jeremy M. |
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Originally Posted by Liquid
I think the -1 feature should remain for solo content, primarily for low damage/defense types like some defender builds. I have no problem with it being ignored and treated as +0 if you have more than one person on the team, or are on an actual TF (I think it should be available for Ouroboros content).
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Originally Posted by Minotaur
Nooooo, the riktispec is unplayable on any difficulty less than +1 as it insists on spawning -2s otherwise, meaning all your knockdown becomes knockback.
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Originally Posted by ChaosExMachina
Removing the ability to have any kind of challenge for a team other than maybe the final encounter of 4 of the hardest TFs is a bad idea. That's not an exaggeration. Most teams trivialize most of the game. Base challenge should be easy, but there should be higher settings for stronger teams.
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Originally Posted by AmazingMOO
Add me to the list that wants to make sure that the +level difficulty option remains for TFs. I did an ITF last night on the equivalent of 'Unyielding' simply because my team was capable of it. I'd have hated for that team to run at +0/+0.
Also, taking away the difficulty options for Oro will, frankly, kinda suck. |
These patch notes were meant for the Forum Games section.
Corrupt A Wish (Multi-page thread 1 2 3 ... Last Page)
Wish: I want to be able to set the difficulty to whatever I want then make the game spawn lots of enemies for me to shoot.
Corrupted: Granted. Except on Task Forces. You can't even use the old settings on those anymore.
I would be content to have the old difficulty options for TFs. It's still not good enough for Ouro, since I'm usually soloing it with heavily IOd 50s, but better than nothing.
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Originally Posted by AmazingMOO
Add me to the list that wants to make sure that the +level difficulty option remains for TFs. I did an ITF last night on the equivalent of 'Unyielding' simply because my team was capable of it. I'd have hated for that team to run at +0/+0.
Also, taking away the difficulty options for Oro will, frankly, kinda suck. |
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Originally Posted by Infernus_Hades
The way you play changes your IO slotting..
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Add me to the chorus of people who think a better solution would simply be to disqualify the -1 level setting from earning Master-of badges.
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Originally Posted by Starjammer
Add me to the chorus of people who think a better solution would simply be to disqualify the -1 level setting from earning Master-of badges.
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Originally Posted by Starjammer
Add me to the chorus of people who think a better solution would simply be to disqualify the -1 level setting from earning Master-of badges.
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Originally Posted by PRAF68_EU
Dispari has more than enough credability, and certainly doesn't need to borrow any from you.
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How hard would it be to require a new difficulty setting in the task force of ignore SRSLY/ 4XP Setting and make that required for Master Of badges?
And IW for widows is still bugged :/
My two cents...
Less options is bad. Period.
People are going to find ways to challenge themselves, regardless of the limitations any developers place into the game. Stripping the ability for the reputation/SRSLY/4XP system to affect TFs is silly.
If you don't want the SRSLY/4XP system affecting it, have the old rep system in place at the starting pop-up, before or after the Oros Difficulty options splash. Or instead, since there's no point other than masochism/challenge to the Oros Diff options with TF/SFs.
If it's the high Difficulty TF/SFs that are the issue, why? I understand the "cheapening" of the "Master of" Badges through -1... But with SSK in place, there can be no "uber" Exp rewards for fighting on max difficulty.
So, TL
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Leave it as is, or if it has to change, bring back the old rep system into TF/SFs only.