Why do I have to buy Going Rogue in Europe?


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I like COV but now there are only 30 users on Union... If I could create a character on U.S. servers play many time. GR expansion is useless in Europe, I like to play team.
I renewed today for COX 6 +1 months (because i love this game) but not buy GR.

post scriptum: sorry for my bad English

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Originally Posted by Hero_EX View Post
not start from Zero in NA, I also bought all the packs
better try another game.
CO e.g.
Well, there you go. Problem solved.


 

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Originally Posted by Hero_EX View Post
I like COV but now there are only 30 users on Union... If I could create a character on U.S. servers play many time. GR expansion is useless in Europe, I like to play team.
I renewed today for COX 6 +1 months (because i love this game) but not buy GR.

post scriptum: sorry for my bad English
*falls for it*


Surely, if you like playing in teams then NOT getting GR would limit your opportunities further as a goodly number of people will rush off and get Going Rogue and start playing in the new zones, creating big teams and playing through the new content which you have vowed not to get and will remain in the 'original' zones while, dare I say, most people enjoy the new experience.

Perhaps your plan is to try and persuade all EU members to suddely think 'by golly he's right, let us all not buy GR so we can still play together' as, failing this, you might find that the teams you may get on have to drop you as they decide to 'go rogue' which you can't do because you have declared your intention not to buy GR.

I realy doubt that we will get a server list merge in the short term as welcome as that move would be. I have no reason for this opinion, I just doubt it will happen soon. That allows you to have two options; buy GR and follow the teaming there or don't and see the number of teams drop and come back on the forums to complain about it.

Also, I doubt there are only 30 people playing on Union as that would mean this morning I played with almost a quarter of the entire union population at one time before going on to play with another quarter of them when I changed character.


 

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Originally Posted by Hero_EX View Post
I like COV but now there are only 30 users on Union... If I could create a character on U.S. servers play many time. GR expansion is useless in Europe, I like to play team.
I renewed today for COX 6 +1 months (because i love this game) but not buy GR.

post scriptum: sorry for my bad English
It is not THAT bad on Union. In the evenings you can find more then 100 people blue side. Red side is a bit lower of course.

Nontheless, I am not certain if I will buy GR precisely for the reason that the servers definitely feel empty and I am reluctant to invest more in this game. A merger with the US servers would cure this queasiness. Of course I am not holding my breath here.


 

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Sorry GrinningSpade but this morning I found only 30 user villans (including me) and 100-120 heroes.
If I buy GR will never find team in the Rogue Isles with my heroes.
I am a badge collector and GR could help me do many others villan badges... This would be good.


 

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Originally Posted by Hero_EX View Post
I like COV but now there are only 30 users on Union... If I could create a character on U.S. servers play many time. GR expansion is useless in Europe, I like to play team.
I renewed today for COX 6 +1 months (because i love this game) but not buy GR.

post scriptum: sorry for my bad English

Well, I have to tell you, badges or veteran rewards didn't stop me.
I had close to 3 year in Eu, but due to the same reason (CoV) I moved to US servers.

Veteran rewards help, but they are not necessary. Living without them is not hard one bit.


 

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Originally Posted by Hero_EX View Post
Sorry GrinningSpade but this morning I found only 30 user villans (including me) and 100-120 heroes.
If I buy GR will never find team in the Rogue Isles with my heroes.
I am a badge collector and GR could help me do many others villan badges... This would be good.
Mornings are hardly prime time of course even if it is a Sunday morning. I must have been one of the other 30 villains out there. But granted, I always am shocked when I team red side. 99% of the time I solo and that is not because I like to refuse teaming. Red Side = City of Solo villainy and has been so for quite a while to.


 

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Originally Posted by Gaspard View Post
Well, I have to tell you, badges or veteran rewards didn't stop me.
I had close to 3 year in Eu, but due to the same reason (CoV) I moved to US servers.

Veteran rewards help, but they are not necessary. Living without them is not hard one bit.
ok the veteran rewards not is necessry but all additional packs? I like this game I bought everything... why start from ZERO?


 

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Originally Posted by Hero_EX View Post
ok the veteran rewards not is necessry but all additional packs? I like this game I bought everything... why start from ZERO?
Well yeah, back when I switched, there were no boosters (I think?)

But I asked all these same things, but it'd seem it's not going to happen.
Luckily though people who purchase new clients get both coh and cov with a reasonable price (compared to what I first paid for the game box.) I know it's not a big relief, but it is something.

But the boosteres aren't too expensive are they? Or am I remembering wrong?

And yeah the reason I started from zero was that I prefer playing villains. Villain side is always less populated than the hero. This is somewhat of a problem for people who play villains on slightly smaller servers. This is all what I think though, but I don't regret anything.


 

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Originally Posted by Hero_EX View Post
Sorry GrinningSpade but this morning I found only 30 user villans (including me) and 100-120 heroes.
If I buy GR will never find team in the Rogue Isles with my heroes.
I am a badge collector and GR could help me do many others villan badges... This would be good.
I say again - you do NOT have to switch sides to make use of Going Rogue. What is your problem?


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Originally Posted by GrinningSpade View Post
Mornings are hardly prime time of course even if it is a Sunday morning. I must have been one of the other 30 villains out there. But granted, I always am shocked when I team red side. 99% of the time I solo and that is not because I like to refuse teaming. Red Side = City of Solo villainy and has been so for quite a while to.
I think you'll find quite a few fallen Heroes running aorund the Rogue Isles after GR comes out


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Originally Posted by Hero_EX View Post
I've always bought everything but GR is unnecessary
Don't buy it, then. Nobody's holding a gun to your head.


 

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Wait, you logged on on Sunday morning and were actually surprised to find not many players? Hell, man, US servers don't get that many people either at that time. Gamers are notorious night owls, 9p-4am or later on a weekend is when the people are on, come Sunday am they've not long gone to bed!


 

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Originally Posted by Captain_Photon View Post
Don't buy it, then. Nobody's holding a gun to your head.
Yeah, this point has been made a few dozen times.


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Originally Posted by EU_Damz View Post
The following are all [ok mostly!] true facts.
  • The EU playerbase numbers are NOTHING compared to the US.
  • Our entire server list peak time numbers barely reach half of freedoms peak time numbers.
  • A large majority of EU players have said at least once that numbers are low and would like the opportunity to transfer their account to the US server list.
  • A large majority of EU players however also say that they like the community feel that the EU playerbase has [in that we all mostly know eachother].
  • Us EU players do sometimes fall into the trap that our entire playerbase are part of the main global channels such as sals/defiant events/etc where the majority of events are organised.
  • We have a very wierd sense of humour.
I play on the NA servers and it is kinda dead these days too. All are light loads all the time. Freedom and Virtue all show light where they used to show medium loads until Sept. So, the game is losing players and anyone saying otherwise is an idiot.

I do think it might be cool if they just added the Euro servers to ours and gave the players the option. If I was in Europe and played in on those server, I would contemplate quitting too. Nobody plays an MMO to solo almost all the time (well, I wouldn't think). Maybe NC Soft will give you the option to transfer your account to the NA servers one the EU servers are almost shut down. Might be sooner than you think.

Lastly, I love the class of the jerk-offs with the rude replies. Way to add to the game and make your fellow CoH'ers feel welcome. You guys need to grow up.


 

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So, the game is losing players and anyone saying otherwise is an idiot.
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Lastly, I love the class of the jerk-offs with the rude replies.
There's something not quite right here


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Originally Posted by TheJazMan View Post
Freedom and Virtue all show light where they used to show medium loads until Sept. So, the game is losing players and anyone saying otherwise is an idiot.
I trust you're aware that the server hardware was upgraded, so that the same number of players would result in a lower 'load'. If not, can we call you names too?


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So, the game is losing players and anyone saying otherwise is an idiot.
Aw, you're makin' me blush

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Nobody plays an MMO to solo almost all the time (well, I wouldn't think).
I swear, one of these days I'm going to get conclusive proof that I exist. It's kind of depressing to constantly see people prove theories that I'm not real.

[/quote]Lastly, I love the class of the jerk-offs with the rude replies.[/QUOTE]

Oh, you smooth talker you! I think my knees turned to jelly...


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Samuel_Tow is the only poster that makes me want to punch him in the head more often when I'm agreeing with him than when I'm disagreeing with him.

 

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Is it odd that since i16 I have got into teams quite easy on Villains?


 

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Is it odd that since i16 I have got into teams quite easy on Villains?
You liar!

A late reply to the original post.

So, yes, maybe numbers have gone down since 2007 or since the start of the game. Looks to me like that is pretty natural thing. Wasn't there a survey somewhere that stated that MMO players stick to a game for a certain amount of time? It is nowhere near dying though. And there are still new players coming to this game. Even in Europe.

They(NCSoft) obviously gain a profit from this game otherwise we would have shut down or server mergers or something.

Going Rogue will give a whole new area to play with and villains you never saw before and also heroes you never saw before. I personally can't wait to bring my MM to the Hero side. But I can think of some heroes of mine who could go dark.

The whole new area, the new sets and probably some other stuff are for me reason enough to buy GR on the EU side as I have no intention to start again on the NA side.

In the end, you don't have to buy the GR expansion at all. That's up to you, but don't go "threatening" you might go play CO as if that is going to make them consider merging the server lists.


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Originally Posted by Captain_Photon View Post
Don't buy it, then. Nobody's holding a gun to your head.
Actually we should put a gun to his head not to buy GR when it comes out.


 

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Originally Posted by Golden Girl View Post
There's something not quite right here
What?
Because something inherently belonging to the male species was implied?
You can be one, just the entire context of the word then switches..

Of course, if you are just referring to the fact that a rude comment makes people replying rude.. yeah, pretty much true, seemed off alright

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You liar!

A late reply to the original post.

So, yes, maybe numbers have gone down since 2007 or since the start of the game. Looks to me like that is pretty natural thing.
Very true, it is indeed natural. If you look at games like Anarchy Online, which are still around after this many years, the number of subscribers has gone both up and down. Every expansion there meant an influx of players, eventually making the basic game free for all made sure that they had a steady supply of subscribers, because after all, eventually people will want to venture further, level further and so on.

There is perhaps a possibility that at one point the base game of CoX could become free, with boosters applied meaning little money spent for added content. Adding GR in then though meaning that you would have to subscribe. Adding in other possible major updates in for monthly payment too (some Back to the Future FOR REAL stuff anyone? I want to fight dinosaurs! Or Neanderthals that aren't green!).
It would not be a strange move to be honest, not with the micro payments option in place already. It could be expanded on. Pay for Play, when you want to up your game...


 

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FYI: You do not have to buy Going Rogue. You do not have to buy it in Europe. (Unless you want to.) You do not have to buy it in North America. (Unless you want to.) You do not have to buy Going Rogue. (But i will, and rather hope you will as well.)
This.


 

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Not really a necro, but this thread ain't fresh any more.


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