A couple of questions before I take the plunge
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Diggis,
Posted on: 2009-09-04 07:25 in Player Questions
No, thats not it for the missions. Some of the older ones can get a bit repeative, but the new missions, particularly in The Hollows and Faultline are more interesting.
secondly, ummm, what did you ask.... Oh, Respecs. There are 3 missions that will grant a Respec. You can do each once. Also, occasionally (mostly with new issues, especially when powers are changed) a freespec token is given for a respec. These are not stackable, you can only have 1 of them. Finally, There are respecs as veteran rewards. Not sure how many, or how often, but I just got one at 12 months. The Freespecs and Vet respecs apply to all characters, the mission respec applies only to the toon that ran the mission.
Play Villainside and you get a lot less street sweep missions 
ANd a more interesting bank mission Variant. That said, most missions on both side are door, but a LOT less street sweeps on redside. And you can get Respecs from recipe drops, being a member long time, or paying $10 (which you don't really need to do :P)
Villainside content is just better, IMO
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I don't remember that back when I used a trial... although that was at least a year ago... that's an odd change.| First, and this is not a question just a note, the little uncloseable trial version window. I'm fine with it popping up at login and I move it to the corner of the screen, but then it pops back to the middle again everytime I enter a mission or building which is annoying /end rant. |
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| My first question is about the missions. Around level 6 I went to my new contact who basically had a series of missions that were a choice between killing X-number of guys or enter warehouse and destroy/find 3 boxes of X. |
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| Second question is about respecs. One of my contacts (think it was Ms. Liberty) said there are 3 opportunities to respec that are one-time only. So after the third respec I can never respec again? |
Oh, and there's also your alternative build, which you can kinda think of as a respec (although it's not).
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Originally Posted by ShadowNate
;_; ?!?! What the heck is wrong with you, my god, I have never been so confused in my life!
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Well, mostly. There are some great story arcs in the game (and some duds too, it's not perfect but I think for the most part content here is pretty good.) but most missions will boil down to go to X, defeat Y, find Z. That's not something that is unique to CoH/V, it's a MMO thing in general. |
Originally Posted by vinque
My first question is about the missions. Around level 6 I went to my new contact who basically had a series of missions that were a choice between killing X-number of guys or enter warehouse and destroy/find 3 boxes of X. Is this typical for the rest of the missions in the game? (this is not a big deal, just curious)
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| Second question is about respecs. One of my contacts (think it was Ms. Liberty) said there are 3 opportunities to respec that are one-time only. So after the third respec I can never respec again? |
There are three trials that you can do that will allow you to select a respec. You can run the trials as much as you want, but can only pick that one reward once for each trial. There are also Respec recipies as part of the Invention System. They are somewhat rare and tend to be very expensive. There are also Veteran Rewards that include free respecs for your characters, unfortunately you will not have access to those for a few months. For Villains, completing the first part of your Patron arc will also grant you a respec seperate from the three trial respecs. Often (but not as a strict rule) each character will recieve a free respec with the launch of each new Issue, to account for any changes that issue makes to powers in the game. And finally you can always pay real money to receive a respec for an individual character. I think the cost is $10 or so. I've never used that option, and I don't think that many people really do.
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The only REAL trial is actually paying $4-$13 bucks to try out the REAL game. Considering that the monthly fee is $15 if you pay per month... by buying an actual copy of the game and getting a "free" month in the process, you're not losing out on much if you end up not liking it.
That's what? 2 hours of work with the current minimum wage? Let's assume you spend 8 hours sleeping and 8 hours working, taking 16 hours out of the day....that leaves 8 hours left times 30 days, so that gives you 240 hours of possible play time to "try" City of Heroes.
Which means that even if you buy it new for $13, you're getting 18 HOURS of possible enjoyment for each DOLLAR you spend. That's a hell of a lot better entertainment value for your money than going to the movies spending $13 just for tickets for a 2 hour movie.
The first question. Would that be Meg Mason in the Hollows? Meg gives endless mission and has no story arcs and they get kind of boring in the long run. If you stay with the contacts that follow the storyline in the Hollows you get a better feel for how missions are set up in this game.
Try paragonwiki if there's any question you can have answered there it has probably never been asked here either.
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The respec ability has been around for about 4 years now and in all that time I've never once used up all my earned respecs on a single character. I know some people used them all up in 3 months even when they knew there was a finite amount. (At that time there was - this was before the frequent "freespecs" and vet rewards.)|
Originally Posted by Kitsune Knight
There are 3 respec trials, so you can get 3 earned respecs. Also, pretty much each issue they give out a free respec (dubbed freespec), but they won't stack with priorly given respecs. You can also buy one from the NCSoft store with real money, or buy a respec recipe in game from the BM/WW/get it as a random drop. There's also respecs from veteran rewards (vetspecs).
Oh, and there's also your alternative build, which you can kinda think of as a respec (although it's not). |
Tips for smart respecs:
Once you earn one, copy your character over to the test server and respec there to try it out. If you like it, do it on the live server. If you don't, you can recopy to test and try again. And again. Etc.
Write everything down or use a planner like Mids (available here) to do it and check everything as you go. It's very easy to forget something, respec, accept the new build, then realize you forgot something important.
You can earn and bank multiple respecs and save them for later. You can save multiple earned respecs and one freespec. You cannot have more than one freespec. So if you know they're going to issue a new free respec and you have one saved on a character, you may want to use the saved freespec a few days before they issue a new free one. (They usually give us advance notice so you can use them and make space for a new free one.)
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The thought of someone playing the game - heck, any game - for 8 hours, every day, for a month....|
Originally Posted by Westley
The only REAL trial is actually paying $4-$13 bucks to try out the REAL game. Considering that the monthly fee is $15 if you pay per month... by buying an actual copy of the game and getting a "free" month in the process, you're not losing out on much if you end up not liking it.
That's what? 2 hours of work with the current minimum wage? Let's assume you spend 8 hours sleeping and 8 hours working, taking 16 hours out of the day....that leaves 8 hours left times 30 days, so that gives you 240 hours of possible play time to "try" City of Heroes. Which means that even if you buy it new for $13, you're getting 18 HOURS of possible enjoyment for each DOLLAR you spend. That's a hell of a lot better entertainment value for your money than going to the movies spending $13 just for tickets for a 2 hour movie. |
*shudders*
1) Yeah, the trial window thing is annoying as heck. It doesn't make someone want to buy the game so much as just stop playing. Bad implementation, imo.
2) There are more interesting missions as you continue in the game. There are some very good story arcs later on that can really get you into the story.
3) People have already covered it, but each respec trial's 'respec' reward can only be taken once apiece for each character. After that you will likely rely on 'freespecs' from Issue releases, Respec recipes, and Veteran respecs. Yes, you can buy one from the store for $10... but why?
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Small correction: first vet reward respec is at 9 months, then every 12 months following that (21, 33, 45, etc).
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Originally Posted by Diggis
Finally, There are respecs as veteran rewards. Not sure how many, or how often, but I just got one at 12 months.
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You found one of the "endless missions" contacts. There are several in the game; they are supposed to be used when you run out of "story" missions of that level, or provide "filler" content for zones that don't have proper story arcs, like the PVP zones. Typically, if you do a couple of missions for a contact and a little book doesn't appear by their name in the Contacts panel, they're not giving you proper "story" missions.|
Originally Posted by vinque
My first question is about the missions. Around level 6 I went to my new contact who basically had a series of missions that were a choice between killing X-number of guys or enter warehouse and destroy/find 3 boxes of X. Is this typical for the rest of the missions in the game? (this is not a big deal, just curious)
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More information on contacts here. List of actual story arcs with the contacts that give them here.
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| Second question is about respecs. One of my contacts (think it was Ms. Liberty) said there are 3 opportunities to respec that are one-time only. So after the third respec I can never respec again? |
- 3 respecs you can earn doing the Terra Volta trial.
- 1 respec every time a new issue is launched (not stackable.)
- 1 respec per character for every year you play the game (veteran reward.)
- respec recipes available as drops or at the market.
- respec recipes buyable for $10 at the store.
I don't know anyone who ever paid the $10 for the store recipe, when you can buy then with in-game currency at the market. They are expensive (used to be around 20M inf but lately have soared to 100M inf), however you can make that much money rather easily by gathering Reward Merits (from doing missions, task forces, etc) and buying one of the other expensive recipes available in the Merit Vendor. A Luck of the Gambler: 7.5% Increased Recharge Rate recipe goes for as much or more than a Respec Recipe. And you could always get lucky with random 20-merit drops, or architect ticket drops. 100M inf is rather easy to come by if you know what you're doing.
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I've bought 3 so far. | I don't know anyone who ever paid the $10 for the store recipe, when you can buy then with in-game currency at the market |
For me, $10 is a LOT cheaper and easier than earning 20 million influence.Then again, I'm comfortably well off financially, so it doesn't bother me.
And I LOVE respeccing.
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First, welcome! Hope you enjoy CoH/V. |
Tips for smart respecs: Once you earn one, copy your character over to the test server and respec there to try it out. If you like it, do it on the live server. If you don't, you can recopy to test and try again. And again. Etc. Write everything down or use a planner like Mids (available here) to do it and check everything as you go. It's very easy to forget something, respec, accept the new build, then realize you forgot something important. You can earn and bank multiple respecs and save them for later. You can save multiple earned respecs and one freespec. You cannot have more than one freespec. So if you know they're going to issue a new free respec and you have one saved on a character, you may want to use the saved freespec a few days before they issue a new free one. (They usually give us advance notice so you can use them and make space for a new free one.) |
Very good tips, but just wanted to add since you are on the forums and if you are concerned on burning a respec. There are AT specific forums and you could post your build (from Mids for example) for comment. I am pretty sure by now there isn't a scrapper, defender, etc. powerset combo that hasn't been reviewed, nitpicked, modified, and all kinds of other comments written up. There is even links to Guides for ATs too in the forums.
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Just posting an example of a build question here.
And just thought of saying, if you are looking for more players or teams/SFs/TFs, be sure to look for your server's global channels once you have a full account.
Also, I didn't see that this was mentioned, but if you want to do a quickie poor-man's-respec, you can simply switch to build 2 at the trainers if you haven't used it yet. You'll need to slot enhancements again, but it's an option.
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Originally Posted by Westley
I've bought 3 so far.
For me, $10 is a LOT cheaper and easier than earning 20 million influence.Then again, I'm comfortably well off financially, so it doesn't bother me. And I LOVE respeccing. |
Ya big goof.
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Originally Posted by Oldeb
There are also Veteran Rewards that include free respecs for your characters, unfortunately you will not have access to those for a few months. For Villains, completing the first part of your Patron arc will also grant you a respec seperate from the three trial respecs. Often (but not as a strict rule) each character will recieve a free respec with the launch of each new Issue, to account for any changes that issue makes to powers in the game. |
And now for a few additional tidbits of unasked for info...
Vet Rewards: First veteran respec comes at the 9 month mark.
Patron Respec: This one actually stacks with the Freespec. This is the only time I have ever seen upon login that I have 2 unclaimed respecs available...
That confused me at first, and I was wondering if I had hit a very fortunate bug that made the most recent freespec stack with the previous one. Then I realized that it must be the freespec plus the patron respec.
Freespec upon new issue: This will be handed down to every character you currently have on your account at the time the respec is granted.
Therefore, I would recommend taking some time to come up with some alts that you might want to play, and create them really really soon. After all, Issue 16 is upon us and there should be a freespec given out with it. So any characters you make before now and then will not have to wait until you do the trial or get your 9 month reward.
Using Your Secondary Build: Just remember that when you use a respec of any type, it will only apply to one build. Therefore, if you want to respec the other build, you will need to burn a second respec.
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Actually, if you're going to spend real world money anyway, you're better off buying influence / infamy from one of the dozens of companies that spam your email box. At $20-30 per billion, you could get a heck of a lot of respec recipes for the same $10 - about 50 respecs for what you've paid so far if you bought them at 20m apiece.|
Originally Posted by Westley
For me, $10 is a LOT cheaper and easier than earning 20 million influence.
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I'm not saying that's the way it should be, but it is the way it is. I'd never consider paying $10 for something I could get in game through infamy.
Edit: ..and my rep went irrecoverably negative over one post. Paragon Studios needs to fix this by either eliminating the farmers or bringing the price of a respec down to something remotely reasonable. Have fun shooting the messenger.
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Originally Posted by Hart
Actually, if you're going to spend real world money anyway, you're better off buying influence / infamy from one of the dozens of companies that spam your email box. At $20-30 per billion, you could get a heck of a lot of respec recipes for the same $10 - about 50 respecs for what you've paid so far if you bought them at 20m apiece.
I'm not saying that's the way it should be, but it is the way it is. I'd never consider paying $10 for something I could get in game through infamy. |
Suuuuure, you go ahead and do that and come back to me when that company from Hong Kong has drained all of your bank accounts... k?
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Originally Posted by Fulmens
...didn't you just look around on the Market forums for a way to entertain yourself by throwing away money?
Ya big goof. |
Two different characters Fullmens, my Fire/Regen scrapper is the rich and bored dude, and PK on... well, any server needs more respecs.
I don't believe in influence transfers. In my role-playing each character is separate and aren't being played by the same player.
Yeah, I'm weird, but you already knew that.
Great info everyone, thanks. I guess I missed my story arc contact somehow. I guess I'll have to go to each of my contacts and see if there was a choice I missed.
Something I forgot from my original post was selling enhancements. I read that you should sell most (if not all) TOs since they become obsolete quick. Well, where do u sell them? Although many of the contacts have stores, none of them purchase enhancements (or inspirations).
Villains sell to the Quartermasters and Heroes sell to the Hero Corps (red and white uniforms) scattered around Atlas, Galaxy, Kings Row and the Hollows and then in the next higher level zones (Steel, Sky, Talos and IP) we have stores by origins and then by time you get to the 30s and 40s you sell to contact stores.
For QMs and stores look for $ on the map.
total kick to the gut
This is like having Ra's Al Ghul show up at your birthday party.
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If a contact is on your Active tab, they have a mission, or an introduction, for you. |
Originally Posted by vinque
Great info everyone, thanks. I guess I missed my story arc contact somehow. I guess I'll have to go to each of my contacts and see if there was a choice I missed.
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Also, a list of contacts that give repeatable missions can be found here:
http://wiki.cohtitan.com/wiki/Repeatable_Missions
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Originally Posted by vinque
Well, where do u sell them? Although many of the contacts have stores, none of them purchase enhancements (or inspirations).
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The only exceptions to this would be the Store contacts in the co-op zones [Midnighter's club and Rikti War Zone]; they give full value for all enhancements.
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The login message will count for every respec you haven't used. If you're 44+ and you've done 3 respec trials, and you've completed your patron arc and you have a freespec, the login message will say that you have 5 respecs available.
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Originally Posted by Willowpaw
Patron Respec: This one actually stacks with the Freespec. This is the only time I have ever seen upon login that I have 2 unclaimed respecs available...
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In the lowest level zones (Atlas, Galaxy and Kings Row) there are two Hero Corps representatives that stand on either side of the trainer a little distance away who sell and buy TO enhancements. You can also find one at the bottom of the stairs inside City Hall, and basicially any other point on your map that is marked as a "Store."
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Originally Posted by vinque
Something I forgot from my original post was selling enhancements. I read that you should sell most (if not all) TOs since they become obsolete quick. Well, where do u sell them? Although many of the contacts have stores, none of them purchase enhancements (or inspirations).
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For heroes, you sell to the Super Powered Field Trainers (or the various stores on your map. Both will be marked with a $.
For villains, either the stores or the Quartermasters.
And yes, it is most sensible (economically speaking) to skip TOs and wait until 12 before slotting any enhancers. At that point, you can go with DOs, IOs, or if you can score them cheap, low level SOs.
Additionally for heroes, starting at level 10, you can get Yin Talismen, which are low level SOs. To get those, you can buy them at Wentworth's, get a friend who has access to Yin's shop in Faultline to buy them for you, or team up with someone who is doing Penelope Yin's arc. Completing that gets all team members the Rescuer badge. And that gives access to Yin's shop.
I started playing on a 14-day trial account and so far everything is really good with a couple of minor exceptions. First, and this is not a question just a note, the little uncloseable trial version window. I'm fine with it popping up at login and I move it to the corner of the screen, but then it pops back to the middle again everytime I enter a mission or building which is annoying /end rant.
My first question is about the missions. Around level 6 I went to my new contact who basically had a series of missions that were a choice between killing X-number of guys or enter warehouse and destroy/find 3 boxes of X. Is this typical for the rest of the missions in the game? (this is not a big deal, just curious)
Second question is about respecs. One of my contacts (think it was Ms. Liberty) said there are 3 opportunities to respec that are one-time only. So after the third respec I can never respec again?