So with WoW raising their level cap again

Frankly, I'm more interested in WoW's redesign of their low-level content than I am in their raised level cap. Now there's somewhere whhere copying WoW in CoH is not only plausable but a good idea.

IMO CoX is one of the better MMO games I have played.Other MMOs include PSO,MxO (before sony killed it with lack of anything) and with that said after playing the CO (Champions Online) beta recently I am genuinely bored with it since I hate WoW as a whole (GUI doesn't help much,mission system is non exsistent w/o any add-ons.)

What make's CO less enjoyable for me is the fact that without waypoints I have no indication of what I am meant to do without randomly guessing at how I am meant to get anything done.

An example of this is where I am meant to rescue dipsticks X,Y and Z only to die due to getting ganked by enemies who make the block power useless often resulting in dying and lossing complete track of which hiding holes you've checked already which ultimetly boils down to systematically going through each induvidual section over and over again until you can find the last screwball just so I can return to my contact and do it all again!

What does this mean?It means I often become frustrated ,rage quit and log into CoX just to get the "Action MMO" bad taste out of my mouth.

With WoW the missions become more like minor suggestions than actual missions since I never know where exactly I am suposed to go until I stumble over it.Even after I read the mission description without a waypoint letting me know i'm getting warmer my play session ended up being "congradulations you figured out where you were meant ot go" thus making me mutter "Bother this nonsense" and had back to this game which is a game I would rather see more of than play a game where all I seem to do it play fetch.

What does this have to do with rasing the level cap in this game? Absolutly bloddy nothing.If this game were imitating WoW's interface and gameplay system it wouldn't have the reputation it has now after 5+ years of operation.Granted there are things the Devs have done which has caused me to raise an eyebrow from time to time (AE banhammer scare followed by the Going Rouge annoucment) however that isn't so bad that people won't see this game for the shining gem that it is.

If they raised the level cap it would unbalaced and invalidate a large amount of content (Purple IOs ,leveling system,even having HEAT and VEAT unlocking criteria) which would mena having to overhaul nearly every aspect of the game to rebalance and repolish what has a mirror shine now.

Short version:

No rasing the level cap would be a bad idea overall.

What I wonder is this:

Does CoX really have *LESS* end-game content compared to MMOs like WoW?

The problem I see here is that games like WoW keep raising the level-cap. What is today's end-game content is tomorrow's road-bump. You have new end-game content, but as others mentioned, the old end-game content simply isn't end-game content anymore. In WoW, you don't have more to do, you just have the same amount of something slightly different.

Meanwhile, CoX is stuck at level 50, and that is a good thing. New end-game content in CoX WON'T negate old end-game content. The Statesman Task Force and Hamidon Raids didn't negate end-game arcs, The Lady Grey Task Force and Rikti Raids didn't negate the STF and Hami, the Imperious Task Force didn't negate the LGTF and Rikti Raids, and the Reichsman Forces didn't negate the ITF.

End-game content in CoX is culminative, not mutually exclusive. I dare say we have MORE end-game content than most other MMOs, it just may not feel that way because 90% of that is end-game content we had for years.

And that doesn't even get into the whole gear-grind WoW and WoW-likes have. We have that, too, except it is, seemingly, not as necessary. If gaining the best gear in the new end-game content is what keeps MMOs like WoW going, then why don't you tweak your new level 50 with IO sets until it is an unstoppable killing machine? It's seemingly the thing to do in other MMOs, if that's what you're after.

And that's not all! As Tricia mentioned, just being level 50 doesn't lock you out of new content. In WoW, you hit level Max, you do level Max content. In CoX, you can do all the end-game content, you can also do lower-level content with your level 50 toon thanks to the magic of Ouroboros, and with exemplaring/malefactoring, what stops you from using your favorite level 50 toon to team with your lower-level friends? You're a level 50, the entire world is open to you, not just the fabled end-game.

Plus we're getting new end-game content, anyway. That's one of GR's stated purposes, another adding a way of being level 50s even better, a la Purple Recipes. And the beauty of it that you don't have to get the new improvements to play the game, and neither will GR's end-game negate CoH's or CoV's. You'll have MORE end-game, not the same amount at the cost of the old content.

Either way I look at it, what we get is win-win.

It's worth adding that the ability to finish a character is valuable. Aside from allowing one to fulfill "completist" urges, this means that a level 50 you stopped playing four years ago is capable of playing alongside a brand-new level 50 made last month. Even without "purples" or IOs. The older character might need a respec to get up to speed, but surely will have a free one banked after four years, and can be tricked out and ready to roll a few minutes after the player finishes deciding on the build.

A level-50 from WOW's early days would require a lot more catching up to hang with the 85s.

"If some other MMO jumped off a cliff, would you jump off a cliff too?"

It's worth noting that no amount of reasonable effort by the developers can keep ahead of the players, especially people who spend a LOT of their free time playing the game.

A smallish game company working 8-hour days can't keep up with 100,000+ people, some of them playing 16-hour days. And if they could keep up it would still start to feel the same after obsessing about the game for as long as we have.

A) We CAN'T raise the level cap without adding all new content. We'd have to add new enhancements, new zones, new enemies, new TFs, new high-level encounters (raids), and new things for level 60s (or whatever) to do.

B) We CAN add new content without having to raise the level cap. That means we can add just a little content here and there, at our own pace.

B is the obvious choice.

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Originally Posted by PRAF68_EU Dispari has more than enough credability, and certainly doesn't need to borrow any from you.

Lets think a little here. With the new Super Sidekicking ability Levels mean less and less.

A level 1, 5, 28, 42, 13, and hang out with a level 50 and run level 50 missions. So um what is a level anyway?

As someone said already were moving to a non-level system. The only thing you get with levels are power options, and access to Hazard and PVP zones.

Here's a Question for those who want the Level cap increased what do you want? Really beside that high number what bonus is there to raising the cap?

Thanks Aggelakis I must have missed that part.