The Top 10 Features That Hasn't Happened or Have been Removed in CoX.
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Posted on: 2009-08-03 24:07 in CoH and CoV General Discussions
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Rather like CoV; they still have the blue walls, but they don't show up until you are quite close.|
Originally Posted by Chan_
I don't even care about a seamless world, I'd just love if they'd get rid of those god awful war walls and just replace them with invisible boundaries. They're so obnoxious and I hate how I can see them off in the horizon no matter where I go. I mean there ARE buildings behind them so it's not like it'd look odd with no signs of life past the zone limits.
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Originally Posted by Chan_
They don't even serve a RP purpose seeing as how the Rikti power them down whenever they want to take a stroll through the city anyhow.
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Originally Posted by Steelclaw
8) Multi-Class: I'm an RPG player! I'm old school AD&D dungeon master and player extreme! I don't want to play a freakin' Fighter... I want to play a half-elven Fighter/Cleric/Mage with access to the Rogue skills. I don't care if my hero advances about as quickly as a glacier on a slow day; as long as I can run my Tank/Blaster/Defender I'll be happy! I can always Farm to get past the early levels... hey... what's with all these vegetables?
9) Hero Patrons: I LIKE the villain patrons.. and hero patrons make a heck of a lot more sense than the villain ones do.. since we all KNOW how well those villains get along with being told what to do. The other great reason to do this is because we can see how the Devs handle creating the Blue Steel patron powers... Do they stick with the standard canon or do they venture into the Chuck Norris forum perception? |
#8 is not old-school enough. You just need your elf. Without any stinky classes, dang it.
#9 just sounds fun, dang it.
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I think that is what "the war walls will come down" statement from the developers was all about in the first place.
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Originally Posted by Chan_
They don't even serve a RP purpose seeing as how the Rikti power them down whenever they want to take a stroll through the city anyhow. Then again I don't know, maybe there's a lot of work behind it that I don't know about.
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Originally Posted by OneAboveAll
Wow. Why can't I just wonder what happened to things for the sake of just wondering?
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It's hard to take this claim seriously after you've called someone a "dev nuthugger" in this very thread.
In fact, its impossible.
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I don't believe so. I remember one of the old dev written "news articles" where the city council wanted to tear them down because they were not needed since the rikti threat was gone. I think it was supposed to be a teaser, but it was badly timed... by the time it was posted, the issue where the Rikti returned had already gone to the test server and ruined it.|
Originally Posted by Arctic_Man
I think that is what "the war walls will come down" statement from the developers was all about in the first place.
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I think that the devs really had no intention of removing the war walls, it was meant to forward the story and got obliterated by really bad timing.
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Ultimus, you may want to re-read that portion. It said we should have learned about the Coming Storm by this point. This is according to interviews back in the i10 or i11 timeframe. We were supposed to learn about it around issue 15. Priorities changed and that did not happen. It's still Coming.|
Originally Posted by Ultimus
Wait what? Where did we find out what the "Coming Storm" was? What is it?
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Yeah they could stand to put those back to where they were. I'd probably still use IO's in anything that will take them.
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Originally Posted by OneAboveAll
10. A reason why HO's reduced to 33% even though ED was eventually put into place, even though the reason for reducing it was because there was no ED.
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Well I also remember a dev post (from BAB maybe) on the subject of the war walls coming down saying "and during rikti invasions they do" or something to that effect.
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Originally Posted by Tradok
I don't believe so. I remember one of the old dev written "news articles" where the city council wanted to tear them down because they were not needed since the rikti threat was gone. I think it was supposed to be a teaser, but it was badly timed... by the time it was posted, the issue where the Rikti returned had already gone to the test server and ruined it.
I think that the devs really had no intention of removing the war walls, it was meant to forward the story and got obliterated by really bad timing. |
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Probably because he was insinuating that I have put them down, called them liars, and are pissed at them for not giving me content in which none of that has even been mentioned in this post, which I can only assume, he 1. doesn't know how to read. 2. he's coming to the rescue of the devs for no apparent reason other than to hug there nuts.
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Originally Posted by Nethergoat
It's hard to take this claim seriously after you've called someone a "dev nuthugger" in this very thread.
In fact, its impossible. |
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And some people wonder why the devs don't say anything about what they're working on any more. I'm guessing it's because of posts like this, years after the fact.|
Originally Posted by OneAboveAll
There's been a lot of things that have been stated over the years, that have been mentioned by dev's here and there, about things that would happen but never did or has yet to come to fruition and is actually planned. I'd like to list them here. I don't think I have 10. Please feel free to add to this....
In no particular order.... 1. The Vault 2. Tearing Down/Removal of the War Walls 3. Cathedral of Pain 4. Working Arena Tourney's 5. Arena Wagering/Gambling (I really thought this was a feature of i4, but looking at old notes, I swear things have been truncated) 6. Incarnate EAT 7. IoP's 8. Resetting the Chess Style Ranking System 9. Working 75 vs 75 10. A reason why HO's reduced to 33% even though ED was eventually put into place, even though the reason for reducing it was because there was no ED. |
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The only reference to the walls coming down I can recall was from a Brian Clayton interview. He said something akin to 'a wild thing I'd like to see is for the war walls to come down and for the world to be seamless,' or words to that effect. Then he qualified it by saying the devs assured him such a thing was possible, but a lot of work. |
Originally Posted by GoliathBirdEater
And as for the War Walls, they do come down ... every time the Rikti attack. Sometimes, things aren't meant to be taken literally
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They never promised it or said that it was in plan. It's a passing "I wish" comment in an interview. Unless someone can point me to something more specific?
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I still would really, truly love some of the EATs they were talking about back in the day. Sure, the incarnates were already mentioned, but the ones that I was really looking forward to were the Avilians(I think that's what they were called) and the Coralax.
I mean come on, a winged alien race and a lovecraft-inspired race of living coral. There's fun stuff you could do there.
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They dont need to put this stuff in game....just like to know the story behind each. It's a sin to be curious on these boards I guess. "Posts like these" lol
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Originally Posted by NuclearToast
And some people wonder why the devs don't say anything about what they're working on any more. I'm guessing it's because of posts like this, years after the fact.
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They could reuse them later - a boxed expansion taking us to Atlantis could also include a Coralax AT.
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Originally Posted by Oliin
I still would really, truly love some of the EATs they were talking about back in the day. Sure, the incarnates were already mentioned, but the ones that I was really looking forward to were the Avilians(I think that's what they were called) and the Coralax.
I mean come on, a winged alien race and a lovecraft-inspired race of living coral. There's fun stuff you could do there. |
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I disagree, the Cathedral of Pain was awesome, it needs to come back
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Originally Posted by Nethergoat
the stuff we've been getting lately is way cooler than anything on that list.
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All he did was accurately interpret the subtext of your post.|
Originally Posted by OneAboveAll
Probably because he was insinuating that I have put them down, called them liars, and are pissed at them for not giving me content in which none of that has even been mentioned in this post, which I can only assume, he 1. doesn't know how to read. 2. he's coming to the rescue of the devs for no apparent reason other than to hug there nuts.
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Your comical overreaction tells the observant reader all they need to know about your intentions.
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I should have realized earlier to not feed the trolls. Shame on me.
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Originally Posted by Nethergoat
All he did was accurately interpret the subtext of your post.
Your comical overreaction tells the observant reader all they need to know about your intentions. |
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His intentions are that he wants stuff that was once planned. He's not going to attack the devs and make them do stuff for them.
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Originally Posted by Nethergoat
All he did was accurately interpret the subtext of your post.
Your comical overreaction tells the observant reader all they need to know about your intentions. |
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You forgot the Blood of the Black Stream, which were referenced by name in one low-level mission in CoV, the one with the Hellion guy Duke Modragar having a meeting with an Omen of Bat'Zul. That's more than what Avilians got, a single hollows mission with a clue concerning an odd looking humanoid skeleton.|
Originally Posted by Oliin
I still would really, truly love some of the EATs they were talking about back in the day. Sure, the incarnates were already mentioned, but the ones that I was really looking forward to were the Avilians(I think that's what they were called) and the Coralax.
I mean come on, a winged alien race and a lovecraft-inspired race of living coral. There's fun stuff you could do there. |
Then they decided to just give wings to everyone as a costume piece and Avilians were forgotten about.
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Yeah, i would want Incarnates or BotBS. I've seen coralax in action and they bore me. What if the supposed "spy" archetype hinted in the survey became the new shape-shifting AT?
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Originally Posted by Lazarus_NA
You forgot the Blood of the Black Stream, which were referenced by name in one low-level mission in CoV, the one with the Hellion guy Duke Modragar having a meeting with an Omen of Bat'Zul. That's more than what Avilians got, a single hollows mission with a clue concerning an odd looking humanoid skeleton.
Then they decided to just give wings to everyone as a costume piece and Avilians were forgotten about. |
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Of course not- he's being passive aggressive, playing the victim while taking oblique shots at the competence and intentions of the devs.|
Originally Posted by That_Ninja
He's not going to attack the devs and make them do stuff for them.
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But I note he has no problem attacking other posters.
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*Before you read this, you should know that I haven't been playing CoX from the beginning. I joined a while after CoV was released at the request of my younger brother, who wanted someone in the house to know what the heck he was talking about when he described this game. I'm not into very many of the technical aspects of this game, and play it purely for enjoyment. I do, however, have basic knowledge of in-game content, and read news posts every now and then.*
That being said, I feel the personal compulsion to address some of the issues that I see here, the main one being "why didn't they do that? It was really cool!"
From my point of view, this game is constantly evolving along the lines of the majority's wants and needs, as well as those of the Devs. They introduce things that they think are cool and/or have been requested by a large number of players (at least, those ideas which are currently feasable), and players react to them. The Devs then judge these reactions and plan the next set of updates. Certain ideas which are not feasable are put on hold until they can be implemented/are forgotten about/are so old that no one cares anymore.
I'm not trying to say that your list falls into the middle/last category of the sentance above (although it might in some people's books). I think that part of the problem is that newer people (in some cases myself) have absolutely no idea what those changes would mean to the game or have even heard of them when they were proposed. Some people like the game the way it is, and have only a passing interest in new content. Others relish the new challenges and options that come with most updates/issues. From my experience, most people fall in between. I could personally care less about a new TF/SF since I don't have very many high level characters to do them with. However, I was never more excited than when I heard about power customization, since I tend to make new characters quite often (I know I'm an altoholic, but I don't care :P).
My point is the same as it has been for a while; what's fun for you is not always fun for someone else, let alone everyone. What you care about may be a non-issue to others.
Also, evolution sometimes has dead-ends. Sure, some ideas were really cool, and there are some veteran players who would love to see them reappear, but most of the new players have no idea that anything like that was even in the game to begin with, so they're not in high demand.
Demand isn't everything, but it still has a major influence on the Devs and the content they publish.
There, I voiced my opinion politely and in a matter-of-fact manner. Please do me the same courtesy when deconstructing it.
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Originally Posted by Lucretia_MacEvil
*Before you read this, you should know that I haven't been playing CoX from the beginning.
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I don't even care about a seamless world, I'd just love if they'd get rid of those god awful war walls and just replace them with invisible boundaries. They're so obnoxious and I hate how I can see them off in the horizon no matter where I go. I mean there ARE buildings behind them so it's not like it'd look odd with no signs of life past the zone limits.
They don't even serve a RP purpose seeing as how the Rikti power them down whenever they want to take a stroll through the city anyhow. Then again I don't know, maybe there's a lot of work behind it that I don't know about.