Is it a PL/farm tool? Yes!
Is it bad for non-farmers? No!
1. You get no fill/farm requests
2. Anyone playing regularly get better paid for their loot
3. Everyone enjoys the game the way they wanna play it.
About the prices: Yes, they are pretty insane, but for some über equippment, shouldn't they be? If you get one, you'll make insane amounts of inf - and let's face it - it won't be the farmers.
As for the rest: No story content announced, HUMBUG! What the F! happened to "the coming storm"? Devs got stuck on another CoP-like disaster? Or just side tracked for the Rogue [censored]?
MA Nerfed again: Getting more useless by the minute. It's just ED all over again!
Btw...last time we got into this argument A. clearly pointed out they're fed up with these debates, since they're uncostructive and just goes oooon and ooon and ooon. Sort of like those +1 posts...
I see a lock/delete thread coming up! 
Oh, yes, btw! We need a serious nerf of those +1 posts. Nerf the post power! 
Ok, lets move this discussion to where it's meant to be ok...
WOOOOO COLOURS! YAAAY
And i'm done
I think that was +1 to me!
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MA Nerfed again: Getting more useless by the minute. It's just ED all over again!
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Where is stated they nerfed it? I cant find any info about it, apart from some 'exploited' entities used in missions.
Anyway, Issue 16 is ok, but i dont like the fact they neglect old issues and only try to cover it up with new stuff.
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You know that it only takes two players to spawn an MA mission for 8 as it is? This change just means normal missions can be done to the same extent
"Well, they found my diary today.
They were appropriately appalled
at the discovery of the eight victims
They're now putting it all together.
Women wrapped in silk
with one leg missing
Eight legs, one body, silk,
spider, brilliant!"
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MA Nerfed again: Getting more useless by the minute. It's just ED all over again!
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Where is stated they nerfed it? I cant find any info about it, apart from some 'exploited' entities used in missions.
Anyway, Issue 16 is ok, but i dont like the fact they neglect old issues and only try to cover it up with new stuff.
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They keep removing stuff. Recently lost buffing objects and hami greenies, instead of removing XP. Panic attacks instead of balanced, well concidered actions. It's all being handled rather poorly, and MA - from the start - was rather ill concieved. There's a reason no MMO has done this already.
With the constant changes, arcs keep getting broken and personally I just don't care anymore. All my planned arcs are on hold/scratched. MA is just another PL tool for me now. A good way of getting through lvl 1-21! The new diff settings will sure help a lot!
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Its anonther FFFridayyyy FFFarmmmmming thread, gonna be a hot one!!!!
Can someone start the weekend power leveling one so we are good to go.
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I would but I can't be bothered. The lack of content is sapping my will.
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They keep removing stuff. Recently lost buffing objects and hami greenies, instead of removing XP. Panic attacks instead of balanced, well concidered actions. It's all being handled rather poorly, and MA - from the start - was rather ill concieved. There's a reason no MMO has done this already.
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People that spend enough time searching the mobs, still have several mobs available. I still have my own list of 'interesting' mobs, just the 'made public' ones are currently removed.
However, dispite the total 'quality' of MA seems poor, it gave an insane boost to party forming, both here as US side. Added, no more stupid traveling or annoying mobs, but fun and chat while wacking down mobs, i love it.
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Meh, I'll enjoy the game either whichway.
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sidefrom I 16 looking pretty good, I can help but noticing its farmers paradise.
Now, on the one hand, im VERY happy that this will mean the end of "Fill plz" requests, and MA may actually be used as intended.
But, its going to have an impact on themarkets. Who knows how much? I supsect inbetween trivial and devestating.
Personally, im getting very confused on the Devs attitude towards Farmers. If they really are going to give all the cream to them, as Issue 16 threatens, I know a lot of people who are going to be pretty upset (translation = lost subscribers, how many up for debate of course). I'm one of them forwhats it worth. To be honest, farmers/farming are, to me, the coffin nail in a game if they reach a critical mass.
Can anyone enlighten me what actually IS the vision of the devs with regards to farmers?
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LOL, cream ? what cream? This is another [censored] off issue with nothing in if you dont care about the colour of imps.
I tell you what iv had out of the last 3 issues, 1 TF, 1 SF, They took a full 3 hours to do both, and a few decent MA farms.
Dont talk about cream.
If there was something new to do, i know a lot of farmers who would become ex farmers or at worst, part time farmers.
Moan about something decent, the devs added this so called QoL feature for people like you.
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Do you really fail to realise that this is all added to compete with Champions Online mostly. All the engine upgrades are things that are needed to upgrade the game itself. Something new content will never do.
If you care about the game progress you would see that.
- The Italian Job: The Godfather Returns #1151
Beginner - Encounter a renewed age for the Mook and the Family when Emile Marcone escapes from the Zig!
- Along Came a... Bug!? #528482
Average - A new race of aliens arrives on Earth. And Vanguard has you investigate them!
- The Court of the Blood Countess: The Rise of the Blood Countess #3805
Advanced - Go back in time and witness the birth of a vampire. Follow her to key moments in her life in order to stop her! A story of intrigue, drama and horror! Blood & Violence... not recommend to solo!
Personally, I'm thrilled about it. Now I can spawn 8-man normal content mishes for my Widow which might actually present a challenge, not to mention 8x drop chances for recipes, enhs and salvage, ie more stuff for me to throw on the market to get inf to transfer to lowbies as and when necessary. And I might not be able to blaze through mishes quicker than it takes to run to them! And I don't have to run around the damn wall in Cimerora any more because even Invinc mishes only throw 3-4 mobs at me at a time!
Oh, yes, and there's colour changes. Woo!
Also EXTREMELY pleased about proliferation choices been desperate for Arch/TA corrs, and Rad blasters and that SS/MA have been tweaked with new/swappable anims, which *speculation on* might be what the people asking for "street fighting" have been looking for *speculation off*.
I can live until GR until a big content update, and it minimises the impact of MA farms etc. to me, because hey! SOLO IS NOW VIABLE AND CHALLENGING AGAIN.
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Personally, I'm thrilled about it. Now I can spawn 8-man normal content mishes for my Widow which might actually present a challenge
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Yep, me too. My Fire/Rad controller gets so bored with the piddling little spawns he gets solo. From about level 8, for the first 30 levels of his life he mostly soloed Hazard Spawn groups but that sort of stopped once he hit 40, it'll be nice to be able to get back to that level of carnage in missions now.
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sidefrom I 16 looking pretty good, I can help but noticing its farmers paradise.
Now, on the one hand, im VERY happy that this will mean the end of "Fill plz" requests, and MA may actually be used as intended.
But, its going to have an impact on themarkets. Who knows how much? I supsect inbetween trivial and devestating.
Personally, im getting very confused on the Devs attitude towards Farmers. If they really are going to give all the cream to them, as Issue 16 threatens, I know a lot of people who are going to be pretty upset (translation = lost subscribers, how many up for debate of course). I'm one of them forwhats it worth. To be honest, farmers/farming are, to me, the coffin nail in a game if they reach a critical mass.
Can anyone enlighten me what actually IS the vision of the devs with regards to farmers?
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LOL, cream ? what cream? This is another [censored] off issue with nothing in if you dont care about the colour of imps.
I tell you what iv had out of the last 3 issues, 1 TF, 1 SF, They took a full 3 hours to do both, and a few decent MA farms.
Dont talk about cream.
If there was something new to do, i know a lot of farmers who would become ex farmers or at worst, part time farmers.
Moan about something decent, the devs added this so called QoL feature for people like you.
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Do you really fail to realise that this is all added to compete with Champions Online mostly. All the engine upgrades are things that are needed to upgrade the game itself. Something new content will never do.
If you care about the game progress you would see that.
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And do you fail to see that more people play this game to do content, than play with the colours of blasts?
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sidefrom I 16 looking pretty good, I can help but noticing its farmers paradise.
Now, on the one hand, im VERY happy that this will mean the end of "Fill plz" requests, and MA may actually be used as intended.
But, its going to have an impact on themarkets. Who knows how much? I supsect inbetween trivial and devestating.
Personally, im getting very confused on the Devs attitude towards Farmers. If they really are going to give all the cream to them, as Issue 16 threatens, I know a lot of people who are going to be pretty upset (translation = lost subscribers, how many up for debate of course). I'm one of them forwhats it worth. To be honest, farmers/farming are, to me, the coffin nail in a game if they reach a critical mass.
Can anyone enlighten me what actually IS the vision of the devs with regards to farmers?
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LOL, cream ? what cream? This is another [censored] off issue with nothing in if you dont care about the colour of imps.
I tell you what iv had out of the last 3 issues, 1 TF, 1 SF, They took a full 3 hours to do both, and a few decent MA farms.
Dont talk about cream.
If there was something new to do, i know a lot of farmers who would become ex farmers or at worst, part time farmers.
Moan about something decent, the devs added this so called QoL feature for people like you.
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Do you really fail to realise that this is all added to compete with Champions Online mostly. All the engine upgrades are things that are needed to upgrade the game itself. Something new content will never do.
If you care about the game progress you would see that.
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And do you fail to see that more people play this game to do content, than play with the colours of blasts?
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The content to a new player is huge in this game. Even so that you will probably outlevel 1/4 of it without ever realising it.. and without power levelling.
But if the game is not upgraded it will never survive the coming competition.. meaning it will then be closed or emty within two years. Then you would have no content or co-players to worry about.
Think about the big picture and not about you own back yard.
I rather have 20 new subs and you leaving then the other way around and I am sure that marketing thinks the same.
- The Italian Job: The Godfather Returns #1151
Beginner - Encounter a renewed age for the Mook and the Family when Emile Marcone escapes from the Zig!
- Along Came a... Bug!? #528482
Average - A new race of aliens arrives on Earth. And Vanguard has you investigate them!
- The Court of the Blood Countess: The Rise of the Blood Countess #3805
Advanced - Go back in time and witness the birth of a vampire. Follow her to key moments in her life in order to stop her! A story of intrigue, drama and horror! Blood & Violence... not recommend to solo!
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sidefrom I 16 looking pretty good, I can help but noticing its farmers paradise.
Now, on the one hand, im VERY happy that this will mean the end of "Fill plz" requests, and MA may actually be used as intended.
But, its going to have an impact on themarkets. Who knows how much? I supsect inbetween trivial and devestating.
Personally, im getting very confused on the Devs attitude towards Farmers. If they really are going to give all the cream to them, as Issue 16 threatens, I know a lot of people who are going to be pretty upset (translation = lost subscribers, how many up for debate of course). I'm one of them forwhats it worth. To be honest, farmers/farming are, to me, the coffin nail in a game if they reach a critical mass.
Can anyone enlighten me what actually IS the vision of the devs with regards to farmers?
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LOL, cream ? what cream? This is another [censored] off issue with nothing in if you dont care about the colour of imps.
I tell you what iv had out of the last 3 issues, 1 TF, 1 SF, They took a full 3 hours to do both, and a few decent MA farms.
Dont talk about cream.
If there was something new to do, i know a lot of farmers who would become ex farmers or at worst, part time farmers.
Moan about something decent, the devs added this so called QoL feature for people like you.
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Do you really fail to realise that this is all added to compete with Champions Online mostly. All the engine upgrades are things that are needed to upgrade the game itself. Something new content will never do.
If you care about the game progress you would see that.
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And do you fail to see that more people play this game to do content, than play with the colours of blasts?
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The content to a new player is huge in this game. Even so that you will probably outlevel 1/4 of it without ever realising it.. and without power levelling.
But if the game is not upgraded it will never survive the coming competition.. meaning it will then be closed or emty within two years. Then you would have no content or co-players to worry about.
Think about the big picture and not about you own back yard.
I rather have 20 new subs and you leaving then the other way around and I am sure that marketing thinks the same.
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Sadly this game stopped getting new players in any great numbers some years ago, so that makes your theory redundant.
Perhaps they should think about keeping what they have, because lets have it right, if someone is going to start playing a super hero game, which are they going to choose, a 5 year old new game, or a new new game.
There's a big picture for you.
Anyway if you like i16, i think thats great, me i'd rather have had something new to do.
Horses for courses and all that.
LOVE the feature!!!!
As a person who LOVEEESSS nonstop carnage, i now have the perfect tool for either myself or low member team to have lotsa lotsa carnage! 
The only thing i want to know is will this benefit 8 man teams also? In other words can we increase the mob spawns/difficulty even with a full team?
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LOVE the feature!!!!
As a person who LOVEEESSS nonstop carnage, i now have the perfect tool for either myself or low member team to have lotsa lotsa carnage!
The only thing i want to know is will this benefit 8 man teams also? In other words can we increase the mob spawns/difficulty even with a full team?
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yes.. repp 2 or 4 and set on 8 members will be mayhem... real mayhem...
- The Italian Job: The Godfather Returns #1151
Beginner - Encounter a renewed age for the Mook and the Family when Emile Marcone escapes from the Zig!
- Along Came a... Bug!? #528482
Average - A new race of aliens arrives on Earth. And Vanguard has you investigate them!
- The Court of the Blood Countess: The Rise of the Blood Countess #3805
Advanced - Go back in time and witness the birth of a vampire. Follow her to key moments in her life in order to stop her! A story of intrigue, drama and horror! Blood & Violence... not recommend to solo!
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I rather have 20 new subs and you leaving then the other way around and I am sure that marketing thinks the same.
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MMO's do not survive on new subs; MMO's survive on sub retention, and retention requires existing players to have something NEW to do, meaning more content.
Keep forgetting THAT, and it doesn't matter how good the game is, it WILL stumble.
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Would just like to add that we have been asking for more difficulty options for years, this is it
Issue 16: Most wanted
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Sadly this game stopped getting new players in any great numbers some years ago, so that makes your theory redundant.
Perhaps they should think about keeping what they have, because lets have it right, if someone is going to start playing a super hero game, which are they going to choose, a 5 year old new game, or a new new game.
There's a big picture for you.
Anyway if you like i16, i think thats great, me i'd rather have had something new to do.
Horses for courses and all that.
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Although Im desperate for new content, I'm not sure I agree with you, sure players will be attracted a shiny new game but whether they stay there or not is a bigger question. Don't forgot although it's old coh has 5 years of content and updates behind it. It's possible coh could benefit from having a rival, players who have never tried a superhero mmo may try it and give coh a try too, at the very least it could give more publicity to superhero mmo's.
I'd be very surprised if i16 had much story content in it as I presume that GR will provide that in spades, but i16 seems to be effort to combat the shininess and therefore is no bad thing and maybe the sensible way to go currently.
Besides have you seen the signature heroes and villians in a certain other upcoming mmo.....yyyyyaaaaawwwwwnnnn
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GG, I would tell you that "I am killing you with my mind", but I couldn't find an emoticon to properly express my sentiment.
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NOTE: The Incarnate System is basically farming for IOs on a larger scale, and with more obtrusive lore.
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Anyway that asside, i dont hate everything, thats why you dont see me with a leaving post every 3 months.
There was a time i was very enthusiastic about this game. These last few issues have just sadly not had much in them for me.
But dont let me stop you loving it all.
Edit. Now i think about it, iv never said anything about hating this game or the bulk of the players anywhere.
I think its a great game run by a bad company, with little that i liked in the last year.
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I think this will be a good change to the game. In theory farmers can now farm without the need to have a team. This means that there will be far less clueless players PL'd to 50 as the farmers simply wont need them.
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Now, specialy since MA removed the 'bridge kick', you only need 1 farmer and 1 'to be 50' from the original 8 needed. So they can now split up teams, making 4 seperate teams going for the same goal.
I dont care, i get my farm toons ready and join the big farm. I still say that there is way to much overreacting regarded the 'clueless lvl50' people.
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