Brian Clayton and Matt Miller on the MMO Report
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Posted on: 2009-05-08 21:06 in CoH and CoV General Discussions
He doesn't mention that most of the player created content, that 5 to 1 ratio, is banned and not able to be accessed
"Well, they found my diary today.
They were appropriately appalled
at the discovery of the eight victims
They're now putting it all together.
Women wrapped in silk
with one leg missing
Eight legs, one body, silk,
spider, brilliant!"
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His shirt, at least, has been in since before issue 14. So some swine told me.
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He doesn't mention that most of the player created content, that 5 to 1 ratio, is banned and not able to be accessed
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I doubt that that affects the ratio too much.
I've not re-viewed the footage but, IIRC, He stated that this ratio was achieved in something like the first 48 hrs.
Looking at Red Tomax for an idea of how much dev content there is I see:
Accomplishment Badge (31)
Contact Store Mission (6)
Costume (9)
Flashback (3)
Introduction (7)
Kheldian Story Arc (11)
Major Story Arc (1)
Mayhem Mission (9)
Minor Story Arc (84)
Mission Architect (2)
Other (461)
PCPD Security Detail (10)
PvP Zone Mission (30)
Safeguard (1)
Special Event (6)
Story Arc (85)
Task Force (23)
TEST (1)
Trial (8)
Tutorial (11)
Ok - we can tell that there's at least some mild dodgyness in this list (e.g. the 1 Major Story Arc should probably just be added to the 85 Story Arcs, and the TEST arc shouldn't be there..) but I think the list is easily good enough for a rough guide.
Assuming that Minor story arcs are 5 missions and major arcs/kheld arcs/TF/SFs are each (a fairly generous) 10 missions long, that'd give something like:
5 missions * 84 Minor Story Arcs = 420 missions
10 missions * (11 Kheldian Story Arcs + 1 Major Story Arc + 85 Story Arcs + 23 TF/SFs) = 1200 missions
Everything else @ 1 mission each = 595 missions
So quick'n'dirty guesstimate of total dev output = 2215 missions
2215 missions. Not arcs, but missions.
The earliest published non-dev/Dev's Choice arc I can see in live was first published at 20:39 8th April. Looking at how many arcs are still up that were first published before 20:39 9th May (so in th efirst 24 hrs) we see that there's still over 142 whole pages of them, going to arc #13754.
At 20 arcs per page that's over 2840 arcs (not missions) published in the first 24 hrs that are still published (and remember that many people still seem to unpublish/edit/publish-again rather than edit/republish).
Many of the arcs published in the first 24hrs were developed and polished to some degree on test. I'm on record disagreeing with the fact so-called testers were doing this rather than testing for testings sake, but at the same time it means that many of these early arcs are multi-mission works that are not farms, and probably work fine to this day.
So in 5 years the devs give us something like 2215 missions (which I feel is probably a generous estimate) and in the very first 24hrs the players publish over 2840 arcs.
I'm pretty sure that in the first 24 hrs there was far more PCC missions than a mere 5:1 ratio (of non-farms) might suggest... Of course, many were still probably not to any one individual's taste, but that's a different matter entirely.
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Nice to see they are promoting the game a lot more! 
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His shirt, at least, has been in since before issue 14. So some swine told me.
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better watch that man, you'll get THE FLU.
@craggy see me on Union for TFs, SFs (please!) or just some good ol fashioned teaming.
It must just be the way Matt is built. He looked bored in the interview too, as though he would rather be anywhere else. And he does have a very monotonous voice. Its a good example of why the top bloke should never be let out in public. Leave it to a nice well trained PR person who can muster some enthusiasm and put on a show.
We also have the answer to the age old question of who ate all the pies
WOW......Who ate all the pie who ate all pies......
He's eaten the budget, thats where the money has gone.
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WOW......Who ate all the pie who ate all pies......
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They should use me as a poster/for interviews
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Wow you hunk of a man you 
I totally vote for you to do standups and interviews! I'ld so buy the game that you advertise
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I take it the look on Positrons face at 1:42 is a web-buffering blip and not bug-eyed utter shock at the interviewer's question of "What do you think makes City of Heroes stand out from the crowd..."
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That made me laugh. Hard.
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I take it the look on Positrons face at 1:42 is a web-buffering blip and not bug-eyed utter shock at the interviewer's question of "What do you think makes City of Heroes stand out from the crowd..."
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Well, he was probably shocked at even having to be asked, when it's so obivous
@Golden Girl
City of Heroes comics and artwork
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Very good lol
I've got to say I thought that was not bad - and I'm a pretty harsh critic of Mr Miller - but I thought it showed the game in a pretty positive light to new punters. Which is what's needed.
The biggest things to strike me out of that were that Matt actually came out and said who was coming back in I15. Sure it was no secret but could he have actually learned that feeding the public and fan base [censored] is never a good idea. If you're gonna do something, do it. If you can't, then say you can't and give some reason why.
But yeah this came across really well but the theme music - News at 10 anyone? Is there no copyright infringement going on there? 
Thelonious Monk
The bit that surprised me most was that US-based MMO report had totally stolen the old British ITV "News at Ten" theme. Thought it might just have seemed similar when it started, then the chimes of Big Ben came in... 
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The bit that surprised me most was that US-based MMO report had totally stolen the old British ITV "News at Ten" theme. Thought it might just have seemed similar when it started, then the chimes of Big Ben came in...
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Everyone loves Trevor McDonald.
@craggy see me on Union for TFs, SFs (please!) or just some good ol fashioned teaming.
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Protean and Reichsman would be nice!
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Isn't Protean dead?
Looks that way in issue 9 of the CoH comic book (Top Cow run) anyway.
Sorry, but...
Are you seriously saying that just because a supervillain is dead, they can't add him?
However, it turned out that Smith was not a time-travelling Terminator
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Also, the interviewer was quite hot.
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I was thinking same about Posi. He is better than his in game counter part anyways. Cute 
For all those talking, i am waiting for his actions instead of bunch of words.
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Protean and Reichsman would be nice!
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Isn't Protean dead?
Looks that way in issue 9 of the CoH comic book (Top Cow run) anyway.
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Nah, he just built up a little XP debt. 
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Protean and Reichsman would be nice!
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Isn't Protean dead?
Looks that way in issue 9 of the CoH comic book (Top Cow run) anyway.
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Nah, he just built up a little XP debt.
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And since he's not logged in since patrol xp started...
By my mohawk shall ye know me!
my toons
Funny: Ee-Ai-Ee-Ai-Oh! #3662 * The foul-mouthed Handyman! #1076 * City of Norms #132944
Serious: To Save A Single World (#83744) * Marketing Opportunity (#83747)
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And since he's not logged in since patrol xp started...
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...he'll get squat!
Thelonious Monk
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Protean and Reichsman would be nice!
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Isn't Protean dead?
Looks that way in issue 9 of the CoH comic book (Top Cow run) anyway.
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Nah, he just built up a little XP debt.
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And since he's not logged in since patrol xp started...
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Wonder where he logged out too . . . . .
@Damz Find me on the global channel Union Chat. One of the best "chat channels" ingame!
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Protean and Reichsman would be nice!
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Isn't Protean dead?
Looks that way in issue 9 of the CoH comic book (Top Cow run) anyway.
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Nah, he just built up a little XP debt.
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And since he's not logged in since patrol xp started...
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Wonder where he logged out too . . . . .
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And he got rezzed by a Mortificator xD
@Cryoburn
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Sunless Avenger DM/SD Scrapper
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His shirt, at least, has been in since before issue 14. So some swine told me.
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I have an inescapable urge to point out that all these references to swine flew past me.
But since the pun is weak I won't bother succumbing to it.
By my mohawk shall ye know me!
my toons
Funny: Ee-Ai-Ee-Ai-Oh! #3662 * The foul-mouthed Handyman! #1076 * City of Norms #132944
Serious: To Save A Single World (#83744) * Marketing Opportunity (#83747)