So... Issue 16 then?
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Arctic_Princess,
Posted on: 2009-04-28 07:54 in CoH and CoV General Discussions
Hmmm if so many people will leave will they transfer us(the staying ones) to the US servers and give us badges for it? (Like i care for the badges 
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I think i gave up caring about the game some time ago... Gave up my most friends too as i moved to Defiant and solo most of the time.. So i16 or i17 doesn't make much difference for me... will stay as long as i want then leave without any regrets.
I think people expect too much from NCSoft... if you ask me don't get your hopes high... if you like the game as it is now stay, if you don't like it, i am afraid it won't get any better in the future.
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What's really sad is this is meant to be a day for celebration - something to really get us invigorated and excited for the future and yet at seemingly every turn the Devs have missed a huge opportunity as if they are actively trying to [censored] defeat from the jaws of victory.
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NCSoft might be terrible at managing expectations, but at least they're consistent: they've been terrible at that since Statesman.
All I can say is that issue 16 had better have:
- at least 1 new zone (preferably the moonbase) with at least 4 contacts with arcs
- at least 1 revamped zone with 4+ new contacts with arcs
- at least 1 new powerset
- at least 1 powerset proliferated for each archetype
- an SF that actually covers a SF gap on CoV side
- the completion of those space centre launch bases in Steel & Oakes that they've been building for half a dozen issues now
- the arrival of the Coming Storm... preferably on the moon... with Nazis
We'll need all that just to make up for the lack of content in I13-I15 (besides the MA addition, which yes it was huge, but it was basically the Devs working on a Dev tool for themselves and then deciding to release it to us - it was work they'd have done anyway).
Though personally I think the Devs are working on a boxed expansion with tons of content, unless they are really working on CoH2 or another MMO. I can't see any rational explanation otherwise for us actually getting less content in the issues following the doubling/tripling of the size of the Dev team. I mean come on, surely they've had enough time to train the new guys by now.
Otherwise I wish they'd sack the new guys and go back to 15 people turning out fantastic content every issue.
wow.
I knew I was being a bit harsh maybe, but I didnt expect there to be so many people fed up with the current state of the game.
Its a shame really, the game isnt what I loved anymore.
Its boring, repeatitive, and the only thing I do these anymore is log in, fly around a little, and log off again.
Im sorry but I am not going to pay my 11.99 for this.
The developers have failed to live up to there promises for a while now, and as multiple other persons have also stated in this chat, enough is enough.
I;m one of the few many that are beyond fed up and as ive said before and in other recent threads im just bideing my time til 2 other mmos are realease and no netiher of them are CO
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All i can say is i am shocked at how unrealistic and greedy players are ..want want want ..and yet its all Free content upgrades ..other MMO dont add in such content with out you having to pay for the stuff , AND its not player feed content ..Yes we pay for the game but work out how much you pay per hour played and its the cheapest fun going ....
The reality is COX has more new FREE content per year that any other MMO i can think of .
some clear want to have their cake and eat it , have 3 more slices and get to pick different toppings each time .
Its not that rock.
Its the fact they keep promising stuff and not living up to it.
If they didnt promise us these then we couldnt wait and keep waiting for it.
If you say you are going to do something then you should do it.
its not free though is it. PArt our subs pay for the updates if were being really picky
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some clear want to have their cake and eat it , have 3 more slices and get to pick different toppings each time .
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No, it's more that when you get told there's a really, really nice slice of cake due Soon and then it's revealed to be a bit of day old fruitcake you tend to feel a bit let down.
There just seems to be a total lack of direction in terms of storyline and development. They built up The Coming Storm nicely and then sorta forgot to finish it all off.
Even the birthday celebrations lack originality and sparkle, instead they're more like "Just throw everything and see what sticks".
They just seem a bit berefit of ideas story-wise now with little idea of what they should be doing to develop the story of CoH.
If it's all a cunning plan and there's a big reveal due today then excellent. I'll say "well played" and look forward to it.
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Its not that rock.
Its the fact they keep promising stuff and not living up to it.
If they didnt promise us these then we couldnt wait and keep waiting for it.
If you say you are going to do something then you should do it.
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This is EXACTLY the reason I'm so [censored]. It's entirely due to promises not kept, again and again and again and again.
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Do not go gentle into that good night.
Rage, rage against the dying of the light.
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All i can say is i am shocked at how unrealistic and greedy players are ..want want want ..and yet its all Free content upgrades ..other MMO dont add in such content with out you having to pay for the stuff , AND its not player feed content ..Yes we pay for the game but work out how much you pay per hour played and its the cheapest fun going ....
The reality is COX has more new FREE content per year that any other MMO i can think of .
some clear want to have their cake and eat it , have 3 more slices and get to pick different toppings each time .
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The problem is that a lot of us love this game and want to stay but have reached the boredom threshold and it IS the Devs responsibility to keep players interested if they want the game to continue amid all the coming competition.
Also, it is not the players, the Devs have promised awesomeness for ages now and have not delivered.
This is why people are fed up and in some cases ....leaving.
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EVE has offered quite a bit more over it's life when compared to CoX, and they dont use paid expansions either.
Even WoW offers a lot more with it's patches, although theyre admittedly a lot slower to release.
Fact is that if the devs don't offer something far mroe substantial than they have since issue 9, CoX is going to change quite a lot. First, the EU servers will go down/merged with US servers (aswell as US server merges), since too many people will migrate to CO and DCU. After that it's only a matter of time before half the devs get fired and they're actually unable to update the game properly, which is where it will start dying off untill the plug is pulled late 2010/early 2011, if not sooner.
I really want this game to survive and grow. But that won't happen if the devs are happy with making no real updates at all, aside from minute content updates and handing the actual work over to the players, with the MA. I get the feeling they got WAY too confident with MA being the saving grace of this game.
Last night I went to bed thinking the event will just be a rehash of all the old invasions.
I log on today and find out that's pretty much the case, oh, add in a few Kronos Titan spawns and some Recluse's Victory AV spawns, I'm guessing.
...This is it? This is the event? Does it even have a -grounding- in the content or story, or is it just '... Hey, birthday invasions!' with no rhyme or reason or attempt to keep kayfabe?
A TF and SF involving the 5th Column. That's the return of them?
New costumes? Well that's something seeing as Jay and his sidekick have just been pumping out some pieces for the paid-for expansion packs mostly, with the dayjob stuff and a few TF rewards added.
Costume change emotes? That's good, but some of the most iconic (Such as the super speed spin, the lightning bolt change and so forth) you have to pay for. Nothing remotely elemental either, it'd be nice to have fire, ice, rock based emotes and so forth.
New faces? Always nice.
I thought we already had the server wide Architect Chat channel? And great, more focus on the thing that gets the players to provide content thet dev's aren't, and worse, farming.
This is it? 5 years, promises of 'soon', of big things to come, of story driven updates, of revamps and proliferation and new things?
Say your piece, Positron. Say it, and I'll decide if I should drop CoH or not.
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After that it's only a matter of time before half the devs get fired and they're actually unable to update the game properly, which is where it will start dying off untill the plug is pulled late 2010/early 2011, if not sooner.
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I dunno, the small team brought us the Faultline update, and I can't flaw them there. Rikti War Zone was also good. Cimmuria/Cimoria/whatever? Not as appealing. The Midnighter stuff was a bit meh in my opinion too.
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All i can say is i am shocked at how unrealistic and greedy players are ..want want want ..and yet its all Free content upgrades ..other MMO dont add in such content with out you having to pay for the stuff , AND its not player feed content ..Yes we pay for the game but work out how much you pay per hour played and its the cheapest fun going ....
The reality is COX has more new FREE content per year that any other MMO i can think of .
some clear want to have their cake and eat it , have 3 more slices and get to pick different toppings each time .
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Well then charge for it, dont harp on about great free things soon.
Because this is neither great or soon.
The costume change emotes aren't even new animations... They're just existing animations with a bit of gfx added and a costume change after.
@FloatingFatMan
Do not go gentle into that good night.
Rage, rage against the dying of the light.
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I get the feeling they got WAY too confident with MA being the saving grace of this game.
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^^ This
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The costume change emotes aren't even new animations... They're just existing animations with a bit of gfx added and a costume change after.
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I bet you a unit of your favourite tipple that the Peacebringer/Warshade changes are just the reused animations from changing into Dwarf/Nova form.
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The costume change emotes aren't even new animations... They're just existing animations with a bit of gfx added and a costume change after.
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I bet you a unit of your favourite tipple that the Peacebringer/Warshade changes are just the reused animations from changing into Dwarf/Nova form.
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No bet there. I can guarantee you that's exactly what they'll be.
@FloatingFatMan
Do not go gentle into that good night.
Rage, rage against the dying of the light.
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This is EXACTLY the reason I'm so [censored]. It's entirely due to promises not kept, again and again and again and again.
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Isnt this your own fault already to believe every tiny 'promise' made?
I merely hope they will change things, if there isnt yet, i just live with it.
I wonder how Duke Nukem fans would feel by now, if they think alike.
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Isnt this your own fault already to believe every tiny 'promise' made?
I merely hope they will change things, if there isnt yet, i just live with it.
I wonder how Duke Nukem fans would feel by now, if they think alike.
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not being TOO negative but surely if we automatically dismiss all "promises" as potential lies then somethings wrong?
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I wonder how Duke Nukem fans would feel by now, if they think alike.
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There aren't any left.
@FloatingFatMan
Do not go gentle into that good night.
Rage, rage against the dying of the light.
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I wonder how Duke Nukem fans would feel by now, if they think alike
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Duke Nukem fans what are they? I thought they had all been betrayed time and time again and all hope crushed under the weight of broken promises.
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I wonder how Duke Nukem fans would feel by now, if they think alike
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Duke Nukem fans what are they? I thought they had all been betrayed time and time again and all hope crushed under the weight of broken promises.
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now thats irony
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The game is what people make of it anyway. Also I don't expect the impossibility of pleasing all of the people all of the time or new things that come out without some faults.
I am not saying things are acceptable as stretch is always embraceable but I think that I am realistic.
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