Soloing does mean soloing, I do understand that. But what some people seem not to understand is that people often forget to change these "LFT status messages".
I forget to change them so I assume there are other people who do that as well. Also I dont think it ruins your day if you actually are asked to join a team once or twice a day. Besides it is your fault if you get the same person asking you twice because you didnt give him a reply. The person might think you're AFK, didnt see the message, saw it but forgot to answer it, etc. and will give it a new try in a couple of minutes.
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some seem to be of the opinion that not looking for team means that you don't want to team however strictly it dose not it means you "are not looking" in the same way that many people do not spend there day looking at the pavement for money but would be quite happy if they happened across some
Not looking simple means that your not actively seeking something it dose not mean that your adverse to the idea of teaming if you are adverse to teaming there is a far better status to pic.
the same go's for "soloing" or "solo" if that's all you've got in your description your not giving the searcher much to work with are you soloing because you don't have a team but wouldn't mind teaming if it came along or are you solo because you don't want to team?
All in all if you cant be bothered to be clear in your message (remember tho you may be playing on a English language server it doesnt mean that the inviters first language is English and even if it is words can have multiple meaning dependant on context) don't get upset when you receive a tell asking if your interested in a team also as not all that long ago there was a great uproar over sending tells before inviting as its polite its just as polite to reply to a tell even if you didn't want one
Cunning linguistical lawyering won't change the fact. Sometimes people neither can (or want) to team with someone, nor do they want to set all 10 levels of hiding/auto-declining/whatever. (Which is quite a chore to do, BTW and tends to behave strangerly after multiple re-logins with different alts. ) Some players are forgetful and leave "not LFT" comment longer than necessary, but that doesn't magically translate into fishing license either.
So, the safe option when you see "Not LFT" or "Soloing" in the comment if to assume that it means what it means, - they don't want neither invites nor /tells for whatewer reason. If you send a tell anyway (and there might be reasons to do that), - don't behave like they OWE you a polite 255-character reply or invite acceptance or a pony. They don't. (although I personally try to write something in reply, at least "no, ty, GTG soon" or something along those lines.)
P.S. Where is that thread derailment crew when you need them most?
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See? Now this is why I gave up arguing in here. Even when people are totally and utterly wrong, they still think they're right. It's like trying to argue with a brick wall... 
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Wow, I'm amazed how this topic actually reached an epic proportion.
Still, I have not read a single comment actually explaining how it could possibly be concidered rude not to answer a tell from a stranger, since there's such a HUGE reason why you actually can't answer or just don't want to for so many good, un-rude reasons.
But there's one good thing WE ALL could learn from this:
IF you in fact want a team, then FLAG that in the search window.
Also, as I DO enjoy teaming, that doesn't necessarily mean I ALWAYS want to team, or with ANYONE. I have indeed left teams when I've seen some faces in it because I know I will hate every second I team with some people. (I of course send an explaining tell to the team leader and in some cases to the other team members, usually getting one of those "OMG I TOTALLY understand what you mean now" a few minutes later).
Not answering a complete stranger, even under the best of circumstances. Well, ok, I can agree it's not polite, but it's definitely not rude. You have chosen to play this game and payed the fee so it's up to you to enjoy it in any way you want even if others don't like the way you do it. That's their problem, not yours. Just ignore the moral police force and their "We're better than you" standards!
....and this thread right here is why I am usually hidden from searches...
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See? Now this is why I gave up arguing in here. Even when people are totally and utterly wrong, they still think they're right. It's like trying to argue with a brick wall...
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^This^
I haven't commented in this thread yet but I have read most of it. (fun funies) FFM sums it up completely.
Is it just me, or are the people who get offended when people don't reply to their tells the same people that have a broad interpretation of peoples comments.
I would read "Not LFT" as not looking to begin, or looking to be part of one, and "solo" also as a desription of your intentions and wouldn't even send a tell
Though admitedly the login and Greyed out search option would mean that i'd possibly send tells to people greyed but no search status.
To me it seems fairly *many bad things* to get annoyed someone hasnt replied to your tell, when your taking fairly broad, semantic leaps on the meaning of their search bar comment.
Personally I would never be annoyed even if someone was set to white, and their status said "please god invite me to anything im desperate" and they didnt reply to me, maybe i'm just too laid back about it?
its only a game :O
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I would read "Not LFT" as not looking to begin, or looking to be part of one, and "solo" also as a desription of your intentions and wouldn't even send a tell
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I get what you mean. If it says "not LFT" in the search comment I interpret it just like you do. But the search status, not looking for team, the grey one, is the basic one which no one ever changes unless they really dont want to team.
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I would read "Not LFT" as not looking to begin, or looking to be part of one, and "solo" also as a desription of your intentions and wouldn't even send a tell
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I get what you mean. If it says "not LFT" in the search comment I interpret it just like you do. But the search status, not looking for team, the grey one, is the basic one which no one ever changes unless they really dont want to team.
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or people dont change, because they're not looking for a team, either way, all sides of the argument are making an assumption as to the usefulness of this specific setting.
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UseLESSness!
It should really be renamed "Not bothered"
1. "Not accepting invites"
2. "Not Bothered one way or the other" (Default)
3. "Looking for team" (for mission/TF/badge/etc...)
I don't think anyone could argue over those tags (though we'd still squabble over the comments themselves...)
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From my own pov if I see "Soloing" or "Not LFT", I'd interpret that as a preference or statement of intent rather than a statement of current activity, and would pass that person by if I was building a team.
If I'm looking to join a team, I will send tells to everyone that appears gray in the search list within my level range. If I'm on a team and I get a reasonably worded request, I'll reply in kind as soon as I'm able, and frankly, I don't think it's unreasonable to ask the same courtesy from other people.
Frankly, I'm astounded by "it's rude to send a tell to a stranger". What kind of nonsensical attitude is that to have in a MULTIPLAYER game. Multi Player. Lots of people. Expect interaction from people you don't know. In fact, how do you expect to find people you do know, if you won't accept people from tells you don't?
Madness.
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For my part, I generally leave my status to 'Not Looking' because I'm not actively looking for one. I'm generally happy to join one if I get a nice Tell asking, though. If I really don't want to team, I flag myself red. It's not that difficult, and has the added bonus of killing blind invites.
However, if I was inviting people to team, I would take 'Soloing' in the Search comment to mean that the person wasn't interested.
And, as most people here seem to be saying, if I get a Tell I always try to reply to it as soon as practically possible. Assuming I haven't missed it completely somehow.
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some seem to be of the opinion that not looking for team means that you don't want to team however strictly it dose not it means you "are not looking" in the same way that many people do not spend there day looking at the pavement for money but would be quite happy if they happened across some
Not looking simple means that your not actively seeking something it dose not mean that your adverse to the idea of teaming if you are adverse to teaming there is a far better status to pic.
the same go's for "soloing" or "solo" if that's all you've got in your description your not giving the searcher much to work with are you soloing because you don't have a team but wouldn't mind teaming if it came along or are you solo because you don't want to team?
All in all if you cant be bothered to be clear in your message (remember tho you may be playing on a English language server it doesnt mean that the inviters first language is English and even if it is words can have multiple meaning dependant on context) don't get upset when you receive a tell asking if your interested in a team also as not all that long ago there was a great uproar over sending tells before inviting as its polite its just as polite to reply to a tell even if you didn't want one
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I am sorry but who are you to say that someone who has soloing up isn't actually wishing to solo? And even if you wrote a war and peace epic in search comments explaining what you mean by the word solo, that some like you STILL says that person doesn't really mean what they have just written.
And it would surely also mean that people with comments like mine Looking for TF/SF aren't really looking for TF/SF but something completely different, maybe they are looking to solo ?
And at what point does "not actively looking for team" start to become "maybe not actively looking for team" under the same premise of "cos people forget to change their search comment". 
I shouldn't bother Psych.
I have mine set to not looking as I tend to get my teams from a set group of friends (and after this thread, I am glad I do). To me it means not looking, but apparently to these others it means something along the lines of "Please send me tell after tell asking if I want to farm or fill, as I didn't really mean it."
These same people are the ones crying and whining because people who are listed as soloing and not wanting to team didn't really mean it and are flabbergasted when those people then either don't reply to the tells they asked not to receive in the first place, but then are all hurt when those people get fed up and are rude or dont answer.
You could put I do not specifically want any tells whatsoever from anybody, and they would still say it meant "I want someone to spam me to death"
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I stay on Grey unless I'm looking when I change to Green. I will change my message regularly though, because its often easier.
If my message says I'm "just soloing" and I get a tell from someone on my global (who could have sent without searching) I will always respond. If I'm busy and my comment says "I'm just soloing" then I will return the favour and ignore the tell. If I hadn't reset my status when I get the tell, I will say I'm busy, then change my comment to "Just soloing". If I get a tell and I'm not busy, I will say "Sorry, but as my comment says, just soloing" I've leant to type that very fast.
Changing to red it annoying because it stays red when you log back in (or used to) and then I have to remember to change back. But if not teamed I can always see my search comment cause of how I have my windows
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They were appropriately appalled
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I think I'm set to the default "not looking", but my message says I'm available to help at any level
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LMAO!
Just use the red flag if you're soloing or even /hide.
Brawling Cactus from a distant planet.
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And if you don't want invites to PUGs, but do want invites to your regular/SG teams. No, this is not much of an option.
As late as today, I got another "You wanna join TF" tell, to my villain. I told them it's way easier to find people if they say what STRIKE Force they mean (contact, not name, since people don't know them) and level range. It turns out they where actually talking about an ouroboros initiated story arc and not a task force at all. Still, they didn't send a blind invite at least.
Being busy inventing a numina, some purples and other recipes it took me some time to answer, and righto... They had logged off a few minutes after sending that invite, just like 70% of the people asking for invites seem to do.
Ergo, it's most definitely not impolite not to answer private messages from unknown people. Only a medieval british gentleman could possibly think that!
(Oh, yeah, there where no gentlemen at that period, just the oppressed and the oppressors... well, sort of... ..and Jeanne D'Arc) 
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And if you don't want invites to PUGs, but do want invites to your regular/SG teams. No, this is not much of an option.
As late as today, I got another "You wanna join TF" tell, to my villain. I told them it's way easier to find people if they say what STRIKE Force they mean (contact, not name, since people don't know them) and level range. It turns out they where actually talking about an ouroboros initiated story arc and not a task force at all. Still, they didn't send a blind invite at least.
Being busy inventing a numina, some purples and other recipes it took me some time to answer, and righto... They had logged off a few minutes after sending that invite, just like 70% of the people asking for invites seem to do.
Ergo, it's most definitely not impolite not to answer private messages from unknown people. Only a medieval british gentleman could possibly think that!
(Oh, yeah, there where no gentlemen at that period, just the oppressed and the oppressors... well, sort of... ..and Jeanne D'Arc)
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True, rare but irritating when I've been invited, got round to it and then found the person has logged.
I suggest that they build a more advanced invite box. ESPECIALLY the number of people on the team atm. I hate getting invites, thinking 'Goody, mission team at last', only to find its one random person.
Ok, being fair a team build often follows, and we're under way soon enough. But then theres the invites by idjits, who speak poor english ( Funnily enough, non-english people speak it better than natives...sigh ) and dont seem to get the game.
Quitting the team often follows those.
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Ok, I shouldn't help this thread survive but...
...I just had the perfect example of why I sometimes don't bother to answer tells... This has happened to me so often, and usually I just laught and feel sorry for the dude:
This is a conversation I had with a poor boy. Incidently so did everyone else that was about to join my team/joined my team and got into a relentless mission, being quite busy.
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[Tell] A poor boy: hey ,wanna join team ?
[Tell] -->A poor boy: nope
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2 seconds later he sends invite to me, same to the other people he sent tells to. Noone had responded, or had told him "no" when he did so.
Note how he didn't specify what the team was going to do or what level. It turns out this guy was in fact 2-3 levels higher than everyone in my team that got the tell.
People declined the invite, and finally was able to join my team as planned. We jumped into a mission thanks to the temp team teleporter and started "defeating"... um, well... stuff..
A minute later:
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[Tell] A poor boy: u on a team ?
[Tell] -->A poor boy: yup
[Tell] A poor boy: can i join ?
[Tell] -->A poor boy: nope
[Tell] A poor boy: why ?
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This exact conversation he had with everyone on the team. EVERYONE!!! By that time we where busy fighting Silver Mantis AV-version and a bunch of ambushes. Being logged on to a MM I still took the time to send some more tells, each one resulting in another more and more pointless question about why he, the 3 level higher alt couldn't get invited to a full team with no more room for malf/lk.
This USUALLY happens when I answer a "U got space?" private tell. Same with the semi-blind invites. At times I've had to join the team 2-3 times, spell it out with capital letters asking the leader to stop inviting me because he doesn't get it.
So yeah, consider it rude if you want, but life's so much easier if you don't reply to certain tells. If that's more than you can take, go play with your doll house! 
Note: 'A poor boy' is a fictional name to protect the poor boy.
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And if you don't want invites to PUGs, but do want invites to your regular/SG teams. No, this is not much of an option.
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Well since the handy dandy hide function allows you to just hide from searches, but still show up on your SG and global listings, it's a good option in fact it's the best option.
People you don't want to team with can't see you, but your regular team mates can.
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Well I am at a loss, I just cant believe how such a basic action and deed can become so complex. To me its a given that soloing means soloing and I need not look any deeper than that and would expect others to have the same basic meaning and understanding/courtesy. With out those basic understanding you are looking at an invite teaming system that is in anarchy.