why NCSOFT purchased COX from Cryptic?
By
Arigold,
Posted on: 2008-10-13 01:26 in CoH and CoV General Discussions
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Ok first off, just because a new superhero MMO is released does not mean City of will close. Just look at UO, It launched a long time ago, and despite many fantasy mmos launching sin then, it is still running.
As for NC Soft buying the City of franchise, I do not know for sure. However owing the franchise gives them much better control. It is always much better being the developer and publisher, rather then just the publisher.
I'd like to point out four things,
1. NCSoft have created an entire development site in NCNC devoted to City of Heroes/Villains.
2. Competition is good, if NCNC play their cards right then Champions Online and DCUO will actually increase awareness of CoX, thus bringing more people into the game.
3. The current MMO trend, especially amongst big labels like DC is to produce a game quickly meaning that the game that hits the shelves is really still beta and thus is terribly bad, (look at AoC), again, if NCNC play this one right then they can attract more customers.
4. Both CO and DCUO are primarily console based games, console based games don't tend to translate well to pc format.
Knowing that two new Superhero MMOs would come out within the next few years, (Champions Online was still MUO when CoX was brought), why would NCSoft buy out and expand the dev team for what you call a dying game on it's last legs?
DC Universe Online was announced is october 2005 ,and will releash in the summer of 2009 ,and COH is the first game of Cryptic ,they did mistakes like all the first things that ppl do[like me..amm]the second[Champions Online]will be alot better ,and COX is diyng aniway ,so CO will kill it for sure ,COX is a old Cryptic game ,and NCNC just keep it living .
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Oh great another doom prophet who thinks he knows it all.
*rolls eyes*
I especially like the part that Champions Online *will* be better. Got some insider info we don't? cause looking at the vids and such it seems to have less features than CoX does atm... And DC Online is a joke, ugliest game ever.
i do not understand ,all of you play a cryptic game[cox]and you think that ther second game with twice more budget will fail?
I think the economy is going to be more of a worry on all games. People may not give up on this game because they have worked hardest on it. In going to a new game we would lower the population of this one. Let's say we all did it and perhaps found the new game didn't measure up. We all then try to come back, only to find that this game is closed due to too low a population. I think that the best plan would be for NCNC to concentrate on the people they have, give us more of what we want sooner and that is exactly looking to be the way of things.
How things will turn out could come down to many things. I plan to play CO when it comes out and play this one. Spending money is fighting the depression and seeing as I know I would spend more money in 1 night down the pub than a whole months worth of gaming. Such is my plan.
If we can as players, be nice and treat each other with respect and by that apart from the obvious I also mean I try to value your concepts as well as you value mine and work together then there is less reason to leave. At the start of any new game you will get powergamers who want, expect and need efficiency hiring and firing, this game is nicer as its weathered and powergamers have moved on to other games (to be the best at 
) so we should build on it and just have fun.
It's not good for a publisher to cut too low on games on offer and I think there is possibly interest in seeing as much as 6 more years of life in this one. Given that it's flexible and polished, and the Dev team have been expanding, ok NCSoft have been contracting and a game has been canned, the fight is on to keep things going.
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superhero mmo is not a fantasy mmo ,there is no room for 3 super hero mmorpg ,lets see ,COX will survive DCUO ,but half of the players will leave cox ,then more and more and when CO will relesh ,BOOM!
COX is diyng ,right now ,most of the servers are empty .
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superhero mmo is not a fantasy mmo ,there is no room for 3 super hero mmorpg ,lets see ,COX will survive DCUO ,but half of the players will leave cox ,then more and more and when CO will relesh ,BOOM!
COX is diyng ,right now ,most of the servers are empty .
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Rather than be someone with little more to say than "Doom" why don't we wait and see. Otherwise you'll become like a scratched record. You can't help the future, what will be will be and for all we know you could be someone here from another game crying wolf to create a "feeling" in this one just for kicks it's better to create a more positive atmosphere if you like this game than a negative one. By being so negative I wonder what your intentions are.
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Is it wrong that I didn't know the Champions universe even existed before an MMO was announced?
I for one will not be leaving CoX for either of these new games. (Although i'll be dipping my toes in DCUO)
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Could I request that on the new boards we get a new icon to denote Doom Threads so I can avoid them? Maybe something that looks like GhostRaptor with his head in his hands.
People are so negative these days...
Oh and to answer your question: perhaps it's simply because they know something that you don't.
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Lets wait what the new Games bring on the Table finaly, just remember Hellgate London, AOC, Tabula Rasa, Asherons Call 2 and all that new Games where people told us they woud rock. Look at them now, and you see they all where simply [censored], unfinished and no Fun.
COx is an smooth running well planned Game and the Devs have a lot of Expirience.
<Sigh> A reasoned argument with such a logically incoherent OP would be a waste of time, and the one-word response I'd like to give it would violate the EULA.
So I'll just say it's not even wrong, give it a disdainful glance, and move on. 
this[cox]is the first cryptic game ,is like a beta ,and champions online is the full game ,after expirence in cox ,they will give the full prudoct[co] .
and by the way ,your playng a cryptic game ,give some respect to them .
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superhero mmo is not a fantasy mmo ,there is no room for 3 super hero mmorpg ,lets see ,COX will survive DCUO ,but half of the players will leave cox ,then more and more and when CO will relesh ,BOOM!
COX is diyng ,right now ,most of the servers are empty .
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Hmm, let me see, 4 posts... can't spell DYING correctly... Spouts complete tosh...
Do you work in the British Media perhaps?
Seriously though, considering the features added to CoX SINCE the purchase of the franchise, and having seen DCO video's recently ( can you say updated version of Freedom Force with Batman ) I sincerely have to disagree with you.
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CoX has come a long way since launch. It is certainly not a beta. Granted Champions may have some features that CoX is currently lacking, but in the end CoX has a solid playerbase and has been constantly augmented with free updates. Very few MMO's can say they have that.
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The most logical reason is the fact they now fully control the game. If Cryptic is sceptic versus certain additional features or sortlike, now NC can do whatever they please, including 'toying around' to make new features.
There might be some arguments, mostly if Cryptic already said making a new hero MMO, it would be stupid as competitor to keep getting your engine from your future 'enemy'.
But, as we al seen already, how great a game looks, how nice the features may be.. it will release, some panic and live continue as it was.
LotrO, DDO, mostly AoC, perfect examples of 'the killers' that game, showed off abit and drowned in the 'world of MMO' pool. There are (said) 1,5 billion gamers in the world, they swap a game faster then they swap their car.
Wait and see, thats all to be done. Let NC do their thinking, i'm sure they now know what they doing (note: now).
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It's people like this that make you resent the message board rules. Oh well, there is always the ignore function.
I've just had a thought. Could this thread be a parody, intended to illustarate just how stupid doomsayers really are? If so, it's a bit harsh, some of them have reasoned, intellegent points to make.
I really should do something about this signature.
He maybe new to the forums and so "unaware that he can be seen as trolling". As much as you might be unaware that indirectly regarding someone as a troll maybe also classed as trolling.
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Oh, wow, is it Friday already?
Can't wait for Ghostraptor to see this. If he doesn't *facepalm* I don't know what he'll do.
To the OP: Let's try and be logical about this: CoX has over 100,000 subscribers worldwide. Okay, it's nothing in the league of WoW, but what is?
Things we know:
NCSoft bought the CoX franchise and told us that they were going to pump lots of money into it.
The post-Cryptic updates have been fantastic, so far, especially the QoL changes.
There is, tucked away on some computers somewhere in some offices that we, the players, can't get into, the FIVE YEAR PLAN for CoX.
Upcoming features and issues for CoX (due before CO is released) are coming to make it competitive with the new blood.
Things we have been told (but might not turn out to be true):
NC will be putting a lot of money into one of their biggest franchises (CoX).
CO is coming out early in 2009
DCUO is coming out late 2009
CO will release with features that read like the CoX suggestion board wishlist.
Things that are flat rumour:
CoX is dying.
CO & DCUO will be better than CoX.
So, given all of the above, I'm quite happy with CoX, thanks. I'll take a look at CO and DCUO, but I'm willing to put money on me not leaving CoX.
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Guys, be nice! It's pretty clear from his posts that English isn't his first language, so cut him a little slack. OK, so I think his message is completely and utterly wrong, but you shouldn't just dismiss him because of HOW he phrased it.
@Arigold, to address your original post...
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why ncsoft purchased city of heroes/villians from cryptic if they did know that cryptic is developing a new super hero mmorpg?i dont want to be rude but we all know when Champions Online[the new super hero mmorpg by cryptic]will releash so its the dead of COX ,then nc soft will close the servers of cox if the game was still by cryptic i guess they will make Champions online accounts to play COX on free ,but ncsoft purchased the game ,and we are all doomed ,ohh by the way i understand that DC Universe Online will releash before Champions Online ,that bummer that SOE will kill COX and not Cryptic ,the company that create COX .
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NCSoft purchased the game due to (probably), not having sufficient control over an IP that they saw great potential in, and were working with a developer who were committing more and more resources to OTHER products.
CO is an unknown entity; all we have so far are some screenies and some blurry and buggy videos. From what we've seen, it's going me a completely different type of game to CoH; intended mainly for console gamers and designed primarily for joypad play. Looking at it, it's going to be twitch style gameplay which doesn't generally suit MMO's. Of course, we'll have to see just how it DOES work in reality, so there's just no way we can say that it will be better than CoX.
DCU looks even MORE like a twitch game, so is just as unlikely to cause CoX too much worry, but again, we'll have to see. There are big things in the works.
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why ncsoft purchased city of heroes/villians from cryptic if they did know that cryptic is developing a new super hero mmorpg?i dont want to be rude but we all know when Champions Online[the new super hero mmorpg by cryptic]will releash so its the dead of COX ,then nc soft will close the servers of cox
if the game was still by cryptic i guess they will make Champions online accounts to play COX on free ,but ncsoft purchased the game ,and we are all doomed ,ohh by the way i understand that DC Universe Online will releash before Champions Online ,that bummer that SOE will kill COX and not Cryptic ,the company that create COX .