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I have heard some players/forumites in one thread say that duelling is for the arena and that it shouldnt take place in pvp zones, and then two threads down the list complaining about interference when they are dualling in a pvp zone.
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People are perfectly in their rights to duel in a PvP zone, but they can't whinge about it if they get interupted. If you want a duel with no outside interference, then the arena is the only option.
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People are perfectly in their rights to duel in a PvP zone, but they can't whinge about it if they get interupted. If you want a duel with no outside interference, then the arena is the only option.
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Exactly my point 
I think the biggest problem with PVP is that it is PVP.
The zones are however not meant for duelling. The first message you get says 'you may be attacked by other players'. That alone implies that they aren't meant for duelling. Doesn't mean you can't still duel in them but you shouldn't complain that another player doesn't see it your way.
The arena is the control environment where you can setup specific matches. Now Pocket D has Arena terminals too any variation of team members, hero or villain, can fight against one another.
The difference is like a road and a racetrack - a road is where anyone can drive, wherever they want whereas a racetrack is a loop which only allows racecars to drive on. Bloody Bay, Siren's Call, Warburg and Recluses Victory are all FFA zones, it's what they were designed for
I used to feel sorry fo some of the people who complained about how they couldn't get badges. Whilst I still feel sorry for villain characters who have to go into PVP zones to get their accolades, I don't for heroes who only want to get badges.
I have been badge-hunting in Siren's only to get set upon by a Brute. I didn't complain I just flew away in shock and then tried to fight him. I got planted but I was participating in not only what he was after but the zones true purpose. Several other heroes and villains in the zone all joined in and we had this fantastic hero vs villain fight that lasted a good hour or so right until my game window crashed.
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I have noticed not only in game play but also reading the forums that there are a handful of "Camps" as to the mentality in PvP zones.
I have heard some players/forumites in one thread say that duelling is for the arena and that it shouldnt take place in pvp zones, and then two threads down the list complaining about interference when they are dualling in a pvp zone.
Some people think ganking is a hellworthy trespass whilst others say, pvp is a free for all so anything goes. Ive heard stalkers argue that hide is their inherant power so they should be free to use it without complaint but dont like people using CM to combat it.
The point of this rambling is that, PvP has always been a hot potato and to be honest i dont think there will ever be a happy medium. but is there any real need for some of the more personnal criticisms that i see reading these forums day in day out?
It seems to be a common trend that a post is made, a few constructive replies are posted then a list of replies that are basically people picking holes in each others ideas.
Isnt that the whole reason we pay for and play this game? because there is no linearity or set way to play.
I hate bumping in to role players in pvp becasue they tend to gank using the argument that they are villains so are completely justified in their actions. But im not going to criticise them because that is the way they have chosen to play.
perhaps some people are not as encyclopedic as others or maybe people just lack the vocabulary to get their point across in a way that is not condecending to others, but then some people are just plain rude. Bridger has been away four days and ive already seen several posts which have resulted in flaming sessions.
Everyone has a different opinion about some subjects but that doesnt make them any less right. So why belittle them?
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Nothing to do with PVP, people just think agreement is something worth fighting for. Btw. I doubt villain gank squads have anything to do with rolelaying, what about hero gank squads after all?
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I don't normally duel in Siren's Call. Last Sunday night i decided to duel a stalker on my Trick Arrow Defender. We met at the rings in Talos Park and my team watched from the sidelines. I got him to about half health before I got AS'ed by another Stalker. Luckily i hadn't had a scratch so i didn't die. One of my team mates jumped on the stalker i'd been fighting and knocked him dead in one hit. I flew to safety and explained to the stalker that because I got hit he got hit too lol. We then took it to the arena so we could have a fair fight. Even though it was set at level 20 so i would not have tactics. The stalker couldn't catch me because i moved so fast. Was stalemate till i gave in and decided to stand still in the water. I got AS'ed and died before i could fire Ice Arrow. In hindsight i think i should have moved away as soon as he activated AS maybe he would have had a hard time getting me then i could have held him. He did seem slightly shocked and happy that he beat me lol. We had a few more fights on various alts afterwards. I think he was a newish player and younger than most. Usually when he was about to die he'd shout 'you win' followed by 'stop' lol. Which i obliged.
I like PvP even though I may not be brilliant at it, and can understand the various views on it.
However, I do tend to sit in the camp of PVP being for PVP and feel that if people wish to duel or badge hunt, then they are taking a risk. Although I understand and empathise with villains having to get badges for accolades, it isnt that hard to get them when the zone is quiet.
I do, however, object when after killing somebody, you receive a torrent of abuse, either on global or on private, from somebody who obviously takes it all too seriously and also doesnt appear old enough to be playing the game anyway. And this seems to be getting worse. I have had to report 2 people lately and my other half has reported 3. While I dont mind trash talk etc, personal insults and spam swearing isnt very mature and unfortunately appears to be on the rise.
I have to say though, that on the whole, some of the best players and nicest people I have met have been in the PVP zones, so I shall continue to play in there having a good time generally.
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Must admit, I whinged on broadcast whilst in RV recently that had been AS'd by a stalker. But, it was more of a comment that was to say "I can't believe I got sucker punched" than to have a whinge at the tactics used. That was in a H vs V battle that lasted 2 hours or so, and everyone got faceplanted at one time or another.
I'm in the camp that anything goes!
I h8 it when people verbally abuse others for playing the game, the way they want to play it. Not a fan of tping others into drones or middle of hotspot, but then there are ways to counter this...
As previously mentioned, people do take it far too seriously, after all it's only a game not RL.
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I doubt villain gank squads have anything to do with rolelaying, what about hero gank squads after all?
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Justice squads, you mean - when Heroes gank, it's always justified 
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PvP is a funny thing really, things wouldve been alot more different if it wasn't added. There would've been pros and cons, but the fact is in a matter over a player fighting another player, you are going to get a clash of opinions, be it that you don't agree that you got AS'd while duelling in a PvP zone or you got TP'd into a drone. At the end of the day, it's the game's mechanics and we have to live with it. Whatever we have in our powertrays or whatever choice that is open to us in a PvP zone, there is no reason why we shouldn't take it or why anyone should be insulted for using it. "It's just my tactics", something i find myself saying over broadcast after being insulted for using e.g. boost range+sniper blast (yeah i know not that impressive ). But the point is, the sooner we realise whatever tactic we decide to use that conforms with the EULA is absolutely fair play. No matter how much we may dislike it, if it doesn't go against the game's rules, then it's fine; it's not worth flaming about.
Agree with most of the opinions on here. i probably however should hav made the thread in a different section of the forum. it did start off as a post about people attitudes in pvp zones but then i sort of side stepped into a different topic. my bad.
To answer you questions marquand, i dont advocate hero gank squads any more then i do villains, and we all know it happpens. my point is that although i dont particularly appreciate being ganked by any combination of people, i wont lay there a snotty heap blurting out profanities because it happened. theres no point.
And as far as fighting for agreement. somewhat a contradiction in terms really but i see what your trying to say. what i was more refering to was those people who have nothing constructive to say and just like being unpleasant.
I dont know about anybody else but i tend to raise my children with the motto, if you dont have anything nice to say then dont say anything. And they are words i try to stick to myself.
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Justice squads, you mean - when Heroes gank, it's always justified
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Huh, what? *hides SG name from sig*
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Justice squads, you mean - when Heroes gank, it's always justified
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Huh, what? *hides SG name from sig*
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So YOUR the one! 
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People like to win in PvE it is easy in PvP someonce is going to loose. Instead of doing something about it they come on here and complain.
Yeah, some people live in abject fear of losing.
I was in Bloody Bay last night collecting meteors for a shivan when someone asked be over broadcast if I wanted to fight 1 on 1. Now I was to busy dodging shivans to reply, but when I spotted them on the top of a building watching me I thought "better play the game, or they might ambush me and steel my fragments". So I lept into battle: only for them to turn and run for the hero base before I could let of a shot! Now I was playing a PvE built dominator - not exactly the scariest AT in PvP, so if they had stood thier ground I would probably have lost.
I really should do something about this signature.
What i find is the problem is those people who hang around talking random rubbish on broadcast about how they pawned you or how much you suck, and then when you take them to the cleaners its you cheated or can you only win by ganking me blah blah blah,
It all comes down to bad loosers and imo alot of big headed people who turn the zones into sometimes nasty places to play.
.......Ganking..its a PVP zone. you can say oh that was a gank but not through a massive arguement and if there is someone that seems to want to argue you can gank them they might keep argueing do it again and tell them its a PVP zone not the arena 
See, there's three kinds of people: [censored], [censored], and [censored]. [censored] think everyone can get along, and [censored] just want to [censored] all the time without thinking it through. But then you got your [censored], Chuck. And all the [censored] want us to [censored] all over everything! So, [censored] may get mad at [censored] once in a while, because [censored] get [censored] by [censored]. But [censored] also [censored] [censored], Chuck. And if they didn't [censored] the [censored], you know what you'd get? You'd get your [censored] and your [censored] all covered in [censored]!
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CRUELY TAKEN FROM THIS WORLD WHILE SO YOUNG
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See, there's three kinds of people: [censored], [censored], and [censored]. [censored] think everyone can get along, and [censored] just want to [censored] all the time without thinking it through. But then you got your [censored], Chuck. And all the [censored] want us to [censored] all over everything! So, [censored] may get mad at [censored] once in a while, because [censored] get [censored] by [censored]. But [censored] also [censored] [censored], Chuck. And if they didn't [censored] the [censored], you know what you'd get? You'd get your [censored] and your [censored] all covered in [censored]!
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This makes less sense without swearing.
Also, Oscar Wilde did not say you are "the bomb yo".
Yeah, I blame The Man and his censorship for ruining a highly relevent quote.
And he did so say that!
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CRUELY TAKEN FROM THIS WORLD WHILE SO YOUNG
I think in his own little way, irradiator made a good illustration of what the kind of people i was referring to would look like if i turned th profanity filter back on.
Good Work!!
Trash talk doesn't need to contain profanity anyway. I'm sure Mr. Normal can condemn your actions against him perfectly well without the language of the gutter.
Makes me a prime target in any match; but as you're battling through my Deathstar protection grid; guess who's forgotten about the Stalkers
I have noticed not only in game play but also reading the forums that there are a handful of "Camps" as to the mentality in PvP zones.
I have heard some players/forumites in one thread say that duelling is for the arena and that it shouldnt take place in pvp zones, and then two threads down the list complaining about interference when they are dualling in a pvp zone.
Some people think ganking is a hellworthy trespass whilst others say, pvp is a free for all so anything goes. Ive heard stalkers argue that hide is their inherant power so they should be free to use it without complaint but dont like people using CM to combat it.
The point of this rambling is that, PvP has always been a hot potato and to be honest i dont think there will ever be a happy medium. but is there any real need for some of the more personnal criticisms that i see reading these forums day in day out?
It seems to be a common trend that a post is made, a few constructive replies are posted then a list of replies that are basically people picking holes in each others ideas.
Isnt that the whole reason we pay for and play this game? because there is no linearity or set way to play.
I hate bumping in to role players in pvp becasue they tend to gank using the argument that they are villains so are completely justified in their actions. But im not going to criticise them because that is the way they have chosen to play.
perhaps some people are not as encyclopedic as others or maybe people just lack the vocabulary to get their point across in a way that is not condecending to others, but then some people are just plain rude. Bridger has been away four days and ive already seen several posts which have resulted in flaming sessions.
Everyone has a different opinion about some subjects but that doesnt make them any less right. So why belittle them?