Is your corrupter a "defender" or a "blaster"?


Brimmy

 

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More defener than blaster, but with dark/dark, it's kinda hard to go the other way round. Thats not to say I can't kick some [censored] if needed though...


 

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My Corrupter is definately more of a supporting character, but that isn't to say that she can't hold her own easily in a fight also.

Legion has probably got all but two of her secondaries in Kinetics, but as Dark Blast is her primary powerset that has basically given her the space to do that. Personally I think it's all down to the player and how they use their builds (as with... well everything) but some powers are a bit more suited to others.

I think that 'generally' a Corrupter is a nice medium and should be fairly balanced, but then again saying that I've been on good teams with first an all secondary Corrupter and then an all primary and I didn't have a problem with either of them.

An eight man team of Corrupters though, I would love to have Legion participate in that!


 

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Personally, my corrupter is more of a support character, having choseen dark blast as my primary and thermal as secondary.

i can, if needed, hold my own, but not that well. I've tried to design him to be a lot better in teams, and i think it works great. being able to heal people makes you very popular with the teams and so can usually get myself onto with relative ease.

the only problem is, teams often need a LOT of healing, and i just dont have the endurance to both heal the team and fight at the same time, so i've resigned to the fact that thermal will be my most used powerset. then again, in line with my plan to be a support character, i can use my primary to pull with a sniping move and also trap large groups in my tentacles and then leave the rest to the team while i carry on healing.


 

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My Assault Rifle/Kinetics Corruptor is very much on the 'Blaster' route at the moment, as I mainly solo with him, so attacking to stay alive is more important to me.

Once I hit the Respec though, I'll likely change things around and become more support-orientated, especially as I'll finally have Speed Boost at that point.


 

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i went 50/50 until the point where i had enough for an attack chain and then i have become more sonic resonance, someone still around doing damage is better than me having a couple of extra least needed attacks.


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i would have to say troller


 

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I wanted to turn around and say "you're a corrupter you're supposed to be the healer" which is too much of a gross over simplification.


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Thank you for listening

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Wrong.

*/Rad
Radiant Aura
PBAoE, Ally +Heal

You can use Radiant Aura to heal some of your wounds, and the wounds of your group. This power has a small radius, so your allies need to be near you if they wish to be affected. Recharge: Moderate

*/Dark
Twilight Grasp
Ranged, Foe -Acc -DMG, Team Heal

You channel Negative Energy from the Netherworld through yourself to a targeted foe. Twilight Grasp drains the power from that target and slowly transfers it to you and all nearby allies. The targeted foe's Accuracy and damage are reduced, while you and your nearby allies are healed. Recharge: Moderate

*/Thermal
Warmth
PBAoE, Team +Heal

You can use your Warmth to heal some of your wounds, and the wounds of your group. This power has a small radius, so your allies need to be near you if they wish to be affected. Recharge: Moderate

Cauterize
Ally Heal

Heals a single targeted ally by cauterizing their wounds. You cannot use this power to heal yourself. Recharge: Fast

*/Kinetic
Transfusion
Ranged, Foe -End, -Regen, Team Heal


Transfusion drains an enemy of some Endurance and reduces the target's Regeneration rate, and transfers that energy, in the form of Hit Points, to all allies near the affected foe. You can use Transfusion to heal yourself as well as your allies. Recharge: Moderate

I could include other AT's that can heal as well. Anyone that can increase a players hitpoint (NOT total hitpoints) is classed as a healer.


 

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The issues not really whether they have a healing power though, it's that calling them a 'healer' in the sense of 'wE N33d a H3AL0RZ!!1! lol' isn't the point of any powerset in CoV and so it's not really fair to refer to them as such.

So I would disagree that there are healers in either CoH or CoV because even if healing is one of the things they do, it's certainly not what they are if you get my meaning.


 

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The issues not really whether they have a healing power though, it's that calling them a 'healer' in the sense of 'wE N33d a H3AL0RZ!!1! lol' isn't the point of any powerset in CoV and so it's not really fair to refer to them as such.

So I would disagree that there are healers in either CoH or CoV because even if healing is one of the things they do, it's certainly not what they are if you get my meaning.

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Agree completely. Anyone who thinks a Rad is just a healer is missing out so much. The heal is the least used power in the set for me. I cast AM more often, even in teams.


 

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My Ice/Dark is a troller,
My sonic/sonic is... I don't know what he is but it's not much
My fire/kin is insane


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The issues not really whether they have a healing power though, it's that calling them a 'healer' in the sense of 'wE N33d a H3AL0RZ!!1! lol' isn't the point of any powerset in CoV and so it's not really fair to refer to them as such.

So I would disagree that there are healers in either CoH or CoV because even if healing is one of the things they do, it's certainly not what they are if you get my meaning.

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right on that man.

my lvl 40 Dark/Dark corruptor (name Hylau) is a debuff/heal/rez killing machine, and that's the way i play her.
i don't get any fun out of watching my team m8s die, so i guess i made her to be a team helper.
having said that, i solo just fine thank you.

i played with a team of corruptors once, it was so funny, nothing could stop us, we rocked, and we where doing the big missions too.

personaly i think corruptors should do there own thing. when asking a corruptor to a team, one must ask them if they can/will be a healer or not, if that's what u need.


 

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I agree there. I think the Corruptor is the most versatile AT in the game. I play my Energy/Kin as a damage dealer mostly, but I buff the team with SB at the same time, and I heal when needed too.
On the other hand, I play my Ice/Thermal as support. I shield and heal, and later on I'll be doing debuffing too. I mostly attack with my hold, and if I do use a "normal" attack, it's only because I'm bored cause the team just WONT GET HURT! :P


 

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I'm just tired of finding ###/Kinetic who take Transfusion and Repel ONLY!


 

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personaly i think corruptors should do there own thing. when asking a corruptor to a team, one must ask them if they can/will be a healer or not, if that's what u need.

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i so agree with you there not all corruptors are made for heal'n hell they might not even like to heal and would rather be more like a blaster (except one with a variety of buffs, debuffs for the whole team) so its always good to ask weither they can focus on healing for the team. As for myself i try to get a balance between the 2, that and theirs so many powers i want from both primary and secondary on my dark/cold corrupter he will prob end up well balanced :3


 

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I could include other AT's that can heal as well. Anyone that can increase a players hitpoint (NOT total hitpoints) is classed as a healer.

[/ QUOTE ]Depends on your definiton of a healer, I only class AT's/Sets whose primary purpose is to heal as healers, and there are none in CoV.


 

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Anyone that can increase a players hitpoint (NOT total hitpoints) is classed as a healer.

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Thats my definition of a healer imo. If you have a power that heals people, naturally you are a healer. It might not be you're primary function, but saying that there is no such thing as a healer in this game is just wrong.

EDIT: Ofc, you are not ONLY a healer. You can be a debuffer, buffer etc. as well. I'd say Thermal's primary function is to heal. They don't really get any solid way of mitigating incoming damage. They just reduce how much damage someone can take (by 31.2%), which isn't enough to stop someone needing their HP replenished imo.


 

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I'm just tired of finding ###/Kinetic who take Transfusion and Repel ONLY!

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...and then the entire medicine pool...


 

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Ion Shift is rad/rad. Bit heavy on the /rad side. Which is kind of logical, since i prefer defenders over blasters :P

My main thing is to help the team survive/kill easier. With the odd blast thrown in.


@Shift
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I'd say Thermal's primary function is to heal. They don't really get any solid way of mitigating incoming damage. They just reduce how much damage someone can take (by 31.2%), which isn't enough to stop someone needing their HP replenished imo.

[/ QUOTE ]2 Heals
1 Resurrect
3 Defensive Buffs
1 Offensive Buff
1 Offensive Debuff
1 Offensive+Defensive Debuff.
9 More powers from primary, most offensive, none heals.

I really wouldn't class them as a primary function healer with those powers.


 

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They don't really get any solid way of mitigating incoming damage.

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So in the end, the Thermal is just going to be replenishing the HP that the team is loosing due to not having enough AoE damage mitigation. Therefore, that makes their primary function healing. Every single one of its Buffs & Debuffs is single target.

2 Heals: Warmth, PBAoE. Cauterize, Targetted Ally.
1 Resurrect: Rise of the Phoenix
3 Defensive Buffs: Fire Shield, Plasma Shield and Thaw?
1 Offensive Buff: Forge ST (100% Accuracy, 75% Damage.)
2 Offensive Debuff: Heat Exhaustion ST (Takes about 5 mins for the villains Endurance to be drained) Melt Armour ST (-25% defence, -25% resistance. Not much when you think about it.)

There is no power there that will keep the team alive against a team spawn, except the 2 heals. That is the only pure way of damage mitigation imo. Its what will keep the team alive. The other buffs will just make the killing slightly faster. Not safer.


 

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My /thermal currently buffs with shields, and spends the rest of his time healing. This can often be a fulltime occupation, both considering time and endurance. I will buff with forge and debuff as well later on, but I have no doubt I'll spend a great deal of my time healing.
Am I not a healer/buffer?
My point is, while a thermal could easily avoid being a healer, he certainly CAN be one (and be usefull in that way too). Personally I believe a healer oriented /thermal is an incredibly usefull addition to a team.


 

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If a power set had 50%+ of its powers that were healing base I'd call them a healer. An empath comes close with the three heals and regen aura, but still has more actual buffs than heals. On the villain side no powerset has more than 2 heals in it, I wouldn't say that 2 powers out of 18 (without taking the healing pool) would denote that character a healer


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They were appropriately appalled
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Aren't you guys bit of nitpicks? Corruptor are healer/buffer/debuffer in a few words : support role?


 

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I play a Rad defender in hero's, which means I've signed a secret contract that I will take every chance to denounce the term healer. Ask other Rad defenders, we all had to sign


"Well, they found my diary today.
They were appropriately appalled
at the discovery of the eight victims
They're now putting it all together.
Women wrapped in silk
with one leg missing
Eight legs, one body, silk,
spider, brilliant!"

 

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I play a Rad defender in hero's, which means I've signed a secret contract that I will take every chance to denounce the term healer. Ask other Rad defenders, we all had to sign

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i never signed any, then again, im a rad corruptor. so im evil!!!!


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