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Aren't you guys bit of nitpicks? 
Corruptor are healer/buffer/debuffer in a few words : support role?
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I object to that.. It shows incredible short sightedness on your side.. Why?
1) Because my Corruptor can dispense more damage solo than any Brute, Mastermind, Stalker or Dominator I have ever met, but I know there are corruptors out there who can out damage me.
2) Because in many teams I have been in the Masterminds have been incredibly good Buffers, better than the Corruptors.
3) Because it dictates a play style that doesnt agree with the way I want to play.
I can tell you now that a Kinetics Corruptor is the single most offensivecombination in the game, with the huge downside of being incredibly squishy. The combination of Build Up (or equivalent), Fulcrum Shift, Nuke (of whatever type), Catch a Breath, Transference is incredible, and we can take both Siphon speed and hasten giving us the fastest attack rate in the game (faster than SR scrappers or Elec Brutes Lightning Reflexes Hasten combo).
I've played extensively with */Rad and */Dark corruptors, and they can be incredibly strong attackers too. When the Corruptor knows they arent going to die because someone else is holding the agro they can be astoundingly dangerous.
Having said that I can buff. I can buff melee characters incredibly well. I can debuff single targets very well. I know when I need to do both roles, and I do them well.
If I join a team an someone says, "you're the buffer" or "you're the healer" I know that they don't actually appreciate some of my talents. If they ask me to heal though I wont object (in actual fact I heal and buff all the time anyway... I feel I've messed up if anyones Speed Boast drops, and I'm always healing the front rows - as a kineticist its often hard to heal the back guys).
Yes we can buff/debuff and heal, but its only half our role and it doesn't define us. Neither half defines us because we are at our best when we use our who set of abilities.
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There seem to be two schools of Corrupting.
School One seem to be the "Defender" class corrupter - those who take their secondary powers more than their primary
School Two is the "Blaster" school where the primary powesr take priority.
I keep bumping into "blaster" type corrupters who basically can't help other team mates with any form of beff/debuff/heal. Yesterday I was teaming with 2 Corrupters (A Dark/Dark and an NRG/Kin) and the second one complained that we needed a healer. We had both Twilight Grasp and Transfusion but neither of the corrupters had slotted them. I wanted to turn around and say "you're a corrupter you're supposed to be the healer" which is too much of a gross over simplification.
So which is better "Blaster" type or "Defender" type corrupters?
My Dark/Dark is definitely more a "Defender"
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making mine a bit of both....¨
and i will call him a "BLENDER"!!!! 
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Blender, lol.
I've got a 21 ice/dark corruptor, and one of the things I really love about it is that you're both healer *and* do good ranged damage... imho corruptors have the best heals on the villains side, and so every corruptor should be taking the heal if they have one and make it useable (by slotting some Acc and Heal in the case of Twilight's Grasp).
But then ice/dark is good for that, because most of the attacks cycle very quickly and you have time left to take a peek at the team window and heal away if people have low health.
I played quite a bit of wow before joining CoV, and it's a really interesting contrast so far - the class roles in groups seem to be a lot less clearly defined here.
That´s exactly the point. As a corruptor you can really shine if you blend your primary and secondary well.
As a sonic/kin I debuff like crazy while buffing myself and my teammates. It would be truly stupid to forego such possibilities for bad<bleep!> damage dealing. With hasten, syphon speed, transfusion and transference there are green and blue circles everywhere... together with happy brutes and endurance-less opponents. And as long as there are enemies around there is always a fulcrum shift in effect, and speeded sonic attacks ruin enemies´ res...
Well, I have to play like a crack addict to use this build´s full potential, but I sure have a lot of fun.
So, it makes me a little bit sad if I see a corrupter concentrating to much on one side of the deal, playing a weaker blaster or a scourge-wasting heal-bot. There can be so much synergy between a corruptor´s powersets...
If it has eyes, you can blind it, if it has blood, you can make it bleed, if it has a mouth, you can make it scream.
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"you're a corrupter you're supposed to be the healer"
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A perfect example of wooly thinking we see far too much of in this game unfortunately. Unlike CoH which has some very obvious setups for a healer with powersets like Empathy, it seems that healing has been kind of squished in CoV with no defined healer powerset. While corrupters do have a few heals, i think its more as a minor support role for use in between Nukes. After all 'The corrupter is the primary ranged-attack class in City of Villains' . I personally play fire/fire and while i do have heals, i wont just stand there and heal, as far as im concerned im a damage dealer first and support second. I would like to see more people take the medicine pool and share the load, after all isnt that what its there for?
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I would like to see more people take the medicine pool and share the load, after all isnt that what its there for?
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I've never found there's any real need for people to take Aid Other... most teams I've been on, there are usually a couple of Corruptors with a heal, and then often an MM with a heal, and that's enough to cover everyone.
Anyone taking the medicine pool and trying to use Aid Other is going to be slowing themselves down and not doing their real job, since it's not exactly the fastest thing to use with that interrupt on it. If a Brute stops to try and heal someone, they're letting their Fury drop, and I'd much rather see them taking out the threats anyway, for example.
And anyway, Medicine heals aren't supposed to be combat heals. That's why they're interruptible.
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I would like to see more people take the medicine pool and share the load, after all isnt that what its there for?
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I've never found there's any real need for people to take Aid Other... most teams I've been on, there are usually a couple of Corruptors with a heal, and then often an MM with a heal, and that's enough to cover everyone.
Anyone taking the medicine pool and trying to use Aid Other is going to be slowing themselves down and not doing their real job, since it's not exactly the fastest thing to use with that interrupt on it. If a Brute stops to try and heal someone, they're letting their Fury drop, and I'd much rather see them taking out the threats anyway, for example.
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I've taken Aid Other on my Kinetics Defender as a backup heal for melee shy toons. They get upset if you just let em die because they won't get into Transference range.
Dominators & FF / TA Masterminds can certainly benefit from it too. But I agree with the point that for most meleers its not that useful a power in the middle of combat. Its good for adding extra options to some support & ranged characters though.
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I wanted to turn around and say "you're a corrupter you're supposed to be the healer" which is too much of a gross over simplification.
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Thank you for listening 
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Dont know what you EXACTLY meant by this MaXimillion, BUT...there is a reason why the AoE heal ALWAYS are the first power you get on some corruptor 2'nd power sets
I've been into the same thing Cathode, my dominator has aid other and aid self.
A couple of times the 2 exact same corruptors joined in on the team I was on...XX/DM and XX/KIN.
2 of the most powerful heals for corruptors....hehe, now guess who was running around keeping the team alive.
Me, sleeping and holding mobs like mad while using aid other on the brute AND even the 2 corruptors.
I asked the corruptors why they didnt healed at all, the answer was "because it sucks"
I would consider myself a defender even though I can really kick it if it needs.
Have only 4 attacks, but in return they are maxed out on damage.
Even if you are a "blaster" and relies only on your 1'st power set...your heal should be maxed out on slots.
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Well it looks to me like the whole thing of "no healers" in CoV was done on purpose to try and spread the healing load. Brutes with self-heals, mm's and corruptors with area-heals but no single-target ones, general heals in power pools...
The bottom line is lots of players don't like looking after other people, which means a real, purpose-built healer class is probably going to be rare (as it still is in WoW). But that does mean everyone ends up having to do their bit in the healing, and corruptors not using their heals is a bit crazy, imho.
Almost as crazy as corruptors not doing damage, lol.
I don't think Corruptors count as 'dedicated' healers, like with say the /Empathy powerset on CoH. Their main functions are to attack, and to buff.
The healing is just a minor addendum to their abilities, and should not be relied upon as a primary function. If your team-mates constantly need healing, then there's somebody doing something wrong in the team.
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