Sounds like someone got a little too used to MMOs where you need the perfect build or the team fails.
Wow....what a weirdo
Wow. Just wow.
Your response was entirely appropriate.
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I often ask a lot of questions if I'm joining a team. I have a quirky playstyle and often don't exactly mesh well with many teams. I don't have fun and they don't have fun when it's a bad match. My series of questions don't exactly go like that 
I respect that he's trying to make sure his personal preferred play style coincides with the team. I don't exactly agree with his preferred play style being fun and I certainly don't think his preferred style "efficient" nor "good".
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Was forming a lv40ish mission team earlier when I decided to ask a lv40 warshade if he'd like to join. Now usually, I dont mind answering a few questions to someone that may decide to join, but this guy began asking me so many questions in regards to the team, it was almost ridiculous.
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I actually did manage to annoy someone with three questions once. Team size, level range and whether they were doing missions. *shrug*
I typically only ask one question these days, the important one, "You did note in my /search comment that I'm a TA/* (or */TA) and therefore do not have access to healing powers, correct? I just don't want there to be any confusion or upset teammates later.". Nine times out of ten, the response is "Yes. I'm asking you to join because I want a debuffer, not a healer. 
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If the person asking me to join a team doesn't at least inform me of the mission levels (so i know if i'm going to actually get a chance to play, or if they just want a shill for their farm/PL session), how many people are on the team and what they're doing (if they're farming/PLing/street sweeping, i'm not interested, and if they're starting a S/TF, i'd like to know that i'm committing to a multi-hour event before making that commitment), then I ask those questions. Haven't had to ask for a while, though, nearly everyone who invites me to a team is courteous enough to give the basic information in the initial /tell. Or gets sent to the /gignore list for asking me to farm/PL/bridge (my /search comment clearly states that i'm not interested in these things, so i don't respond to those requests).
The only time I get asked questions like this is when forming TFs, and even that's rare.
Giving him the benefit of the doubt here: He is a human only WS and therefore wants there to be a tank so that he isn't expected to do it... and the rest was to ascertain that he would actually WANT to be on your team and exactly what buffs his Inherent would be granting.
Is that excessive? Very much so.
Questions about team size, what kind of missions you're running, whether there is a tank, those I can understand.
Asking which contact it is, o....kaaaaaay, still understandable, but that's pushing it a touch.
Asking what other ATs are on the team, for a Kheldian it makes sense, but is getting into way too specific detail.
Asking what their builds are, I have to agree, I would have quit talking to him there too. Next he would have asked what pool powers everyone took and how many vet badges everyone had. And after that probably what color everyone was wearing.
I like to know what I'm getting myself into, but that dude was taking it a little too far. Once you're on the team you can see what build everyone is for yourself.
He should have stopped at team size, tank?, and mission type.
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Asking which contact it is, o....kaaaaaay, still understandable, but that's pushing it a touch.
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Makes sense for a Warshade in the 20s but not in the 40s. If I were playing mine again, I would definitely not join any team facing Banished Pantheon or Circle of Thorns (when Spectrals are super common in the spawn mix).
Was the person overdoing it? Yes. Is it possible to figure out why they were asking each question? Also yes.
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I ask leaders of the Imperious TF if, at the last mission, they clear a path to Romulus or jump immediately to him.
If they're jumpers, I don't join. That 'shortcut' is like driving through a water-covered roadway... if you make it through, then it was a shortcut. If you stall, then you're there for a very long time. I rather spend the extra five minutes (you have to kill 250 Cim Traitors anyway) creating a safe environment for the final battle than fiddling on the roof.
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Now that you can paste into chat, can you paste a Mid's data chunk and send him one of those for each of the "what are their builds" ATs? That would have been totally worth the time it took to do.
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Wow, I dont even ask anything. If I am in the mood to team, I just join. If I am making a team, I let them know what we are doing and give them an option of tagging along. I dont look at AT for most teams I make. I might be a bit more specific on a TF but then I look at the AT and not the powersets.
But, my idea of a good time in game is just playing with a group of folks and not so much having a perfect team.
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Sounds like he/she might be a player from that "other" MMO that NCSoft has. I have been kicked MANY times from teams there for not having the "L33T" Build. /shrugs
lmao.
Far too many questions for basic radio missions, I just don't get that tbh. Some questions are really important but those where totally pointless.
That WS was an elitist spaz or maybe just a spaz, I wouldn't worry about speaking to him like that.
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I've seen a lot of ever more selective LFMs in the AP/Cap farming broadcast...
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Maybe this guy has been joining teams like that recently, or forming them. I had a couple of people volunteer build info when I was putting together invasion teams at the weekend - like the SoA who asked if I wanted his Bane or his Crab build.
Even if I wanted that level of control (and I don't) how would I know? My highest SoA is level 5 
I tend to ask a few questions myself, especially if I got something on the order of "lft?" (assuming I dignify that with a response at all, it depends on my mood and how much patience I have on hand at the moment).
That said, the exchange in the OP is well over the top and well within rights to simply refuse to group with the person. I don't even usually ask about team composition.
If I'm going to join a pickup team I generally want to know only two things: what we're doing (TF/arcs/scanner/AE) and the level at which we're doing it. If AE, I also ask about farms and decline the team if the team is intending to farm/PL.
That's as far as it goes, but I've had people label me as 'interviewing' before just with that. Some people seem to get upset whenever you don't just automatically accept any invite thrown your way - and, if I have "PST" in my search comments, it means I want information. "lft?" or "mish?" is not information. At least, not much.
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Also...a warshade gets buffs depending on who he teams with, so asking the team build isn't necessarily that bad an idea (gives an idea as to whether he should focus on tanking or hurting things, for example) Asking about everyone's builds, however, is really pushing things.
Furthermore, a competent Warshade should be able to adapt based on the team composition, not pre-screen all teams to a specific setup to cover for deficiencies in his/her own setup. Especially a Warshade in the 40s.
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Wow way too many Q's there to make it worth while. I have been seeing allot more of this behavior with the AE babies running around w/o travel powers or even enhancements. Honestly, I don't blame either of you for your actions.
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Asking what level are the teammates and what level are the baddies is always a legit question to ask
Too many times I've been invited to teams where everyone was 4 levels below me and we were fighting blue cons :-/
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Wow way too many Q's there to make it worth while. I have been seeing allot more of this behavior with the AE babies running around w/o travel powers or even enhancements. Honestly, I don't blame either of you for your actions.
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Ya' know, I didnt think of it that way. With all the AE babies running around, I could see how he/she could be a bit paranoid.
Also, to comment off a post mentioned earlier, I heavily take AT into consideration when building a team, not particuarly build, but definately AT. For example, the first thing I like to find is a tank, if by some odd chance they're a granite, than that's when I try to accomodate them and try to find a defender/controller kin buddy. I try to build my teams for effecieny, which then leads to fun, too bad the WS didnt know that. 
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With that many questions, he may have had no intention of joining, anyway. He may have been seeing how how far he could drag it out before either you gave up or he ran out of ingenuity.
"What color are their costumes? Oh, sorry, I never team with people in green costumes."
I watched a guy inviting to a TF, but he said one must send a tell with your build to be invited. I sent him a reply, "I am built like a brick @#$%house, can I join?" He sent me an invitation, but I declined. This is too much like WoW and the shouts on the trade channel there for dungeon raiders that state one must endure an equipment check. The last guy who checked my "equipment" got a black eye.
Heh, an earlier post just reminded me of something I used to do.
Someone would send me a tell saying "lft?"
I'd respond with "No thanks, I have a travel power, I can get there on my own."
Wait for the confused "What?"
"You asked if I wanted a lift, I said I can get there on my own."
Alternately I tell them I'm not a Gravity controller and don't have that power.
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Was forming a lv40ish mission team earlier when I decided to ask a lv40 warshade if he'd like to join. Now usually, I dont mind answering a few questions to someone that may decide to join, but this guy began asking me so many questions in regards to the team, it was almost ridiculous.
Our Conversation:
Me: "Hey, interested in a lv40ish missions team?"
WS: "How many people on your team atm?"
Me: " There are 6 of us, you'd make 7"
WS: " Radio or Contact Missions?"
Me: "Contact"
WS: "Which Contact?"
Me: "Janet Kellum"
WS: "Any tankers on your team?"
Me: "Yes, 2 as a matter of fact"
*This upcoming question is what really got me*
WS: "What are the other ATs on your team and what are their builds?"
Me: "Screw it, just dont join!"
I've never spoken to a fellow player like that before, but man, I just got so frustrated with all the questions, not to mention he was a slow typer; and that last question just tipped me overboard. I know some players are more reluctant to join PuGs and I'm guessing this guy was one of them, but the thing is, I hate keeping my teams waiting.
Anyways, anyone else have an experience similar to this?
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