So, how long did it end up taking?
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Aces_High,
Posted on: 2009-07-13 23:37 in CoH and CoV General Discussions
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It still hasn't been denied that I16 is the synchronization patch for Going Rogue.
As was pointed out in a different discussion I6 was not City of Villains, it was Along Came a Spider which added 3 PVP Zones to the Hero Game and included a graphical update.
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It hasn't?
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To be fair, BaB, you were a little ambiguous there. A little more clarity would have helped...
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Please, for the love of all that's holy, tell me you're joking when you said this.
Loose --> not tight.
Lose --> Did not win, misplace, cannot find, subtract.
One extra 'o' makes a big difference.
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It still hasn't been denied that I16 is the synchronization patch for Going Rogue.
As was pointed out in a different discussion I6 was not City of Villains, it was Along Came a Spider which added 3 PVP Zones to the Hero Game and included a graphical update.
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It hasn't?
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To be fair, BaB, you were a little ambiguous there. A little more clarity would have helped...
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We seeing as someone mentioned he jokes too much with us and therefore anything he says shouldn't be believed when he says it THAT clearly, at this point he might as well be ambiguous.
And I'll leave it at that so as not to start a flame based on some "interesting" comments I've seen.
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It still hasn't been denied that I16 is the synchronization patch for Going Rogue.
As was pointed out in a different discussion I6 was not City of Villains, it was Along Came a Spider which added 3 PVP Zones to the Hero Game and included a graphical update.
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It hasn't?
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To be fair, BaB, you were a little ambiguous there. A little more clarity would have helped...
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Please, for the love of all that's holy, tell me you're joking when you said this.
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Your joke detection meter is borken. 
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Flameboxer Aura LVL 50 SS/Fire Brute
Ice 'Em Aura LVL 50 Ice Tank
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Marketing filters are bad enough. But beyond that the only standard I require from a Dev is that they not joke around with us so much that we never know if they are being serious or not.
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So, what you're saying is, you have no sense of humor whatsoever. You want bland, straightforward "I can't answer that" kind of answers for everything that might even remotely be coming down the pipe or not.
You'd be right in line with the folks complaining that the Devs don't tell us anything, and you know it.
Personally, it's kind of fun watching BaB and the others play their mindgames, just watching how one little pebble thrown into the pool makes all kinds of waves. I'm sure they'd love to tell us everything that we want to hear about, but they're not in charge of what info gets put out, so they do the best they can. If you grow weary of it, stop reading the Dev Digest.
Loose --> not tight.
Lose --> Did not win, misplace, cannot find, subtract.
One extra 'o' makes a big difference.
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It still hasn't been denied that I16 is the synchronization patch for Going Rogue.
As was pointed out in a different discussion I6 was not City of Villains, it was Along Came a Spider which added 3 PVP Zones to the Hero Game and included a graphical update.
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It hasn't?
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To be fair, BaB, you were a little ambiguous there. A little more clarity would have helped...
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Please, for the love of all that's holy, tell me you're joking when you said this.
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Your joke detection meter is borken.
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Yes, it is. 
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Devs - alright guys, lets get to work on Power Customization
*CO announces they'll have it in their game*
Devs - .......YOU SUNOFA-!
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Whenever we coaxed a redname into talking about power customization, they'd always say it was a huge amount of work. My response was always, "I don't care, I want power customization, do it anyway." Well, I'm gonna get my wish come issue 16, so now I want to know: how long DID it end up taking? How many man hours was it? Obviously they're not done yet or we'd probably be in beta, but once they finish I want to know how long it took. For posterity.
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I'll let you know when we're done...
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I rate Arcanaville even higher at Highly Reliable/Functionally Accurate. While not a dev his posts have been more accurate than theirs, and unlike the devs since he is not an NCSoft employee he has no motivation to disemble.
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I have a weird extra advantage here over the devs. Every time I say *anything* about Paragon Studios or the devs, even in jest, I think very carefully about whether or not I'm inappropriately misrepresenting them. Psychologically speaking, most people don't think nearly as hard about whether they are about to misrepresent their own selves.
In other words, I'm always thinking "will Castle agree with this in principle tomorrow" but Castle probably rarely says "will I agree with this in principle tomorrow." Its just not something most people do.
Also, it helps that I'm always right. Like when I said it wouldn't take very much code changes to implement power animation customization and BaB (long ago) said it would? Yeah, its like that.**
(Of course, it will still take thirty-two billion man hours to make new animations for everything, but that's completely irrelevant to me being always right)
** Its a bit more complicated than that, but that's *also* irrelevant to me always being right so that's the story I'm sticking with. Also, I know BaB is hard at work on I16, only reading the forums irregularly, doesn't save PMs, and unlikely to be in a position to contradict me. And he's an incredibly wonderful human being who wouldn't take revenge on a small joke by replacing all my power animations with whirlwind. And he's currently on probation and can't kill another forum poster without invoking the three-strikes rule.
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It still hasn't been denied that I16 is the synchronization patch for Going Rogue.
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It hasn't?
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Not when BAB says it.
He may be a good Dev (in fact I know he is) but basically nothing he says in this forum about things happening in the future can ever be completely trusted 100%. He has a bad habit of having "limited" credibility in that area whether on purpose or not. Ironically if he's telling the truth here he's "embellished" other statements so much it's hard to take him at face value anymore. *shrugs*
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Harrumph!
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I rate Arcanaville even higher at Highly Reliable/Functionally Accurate. While not a dev his posts have been more accurate than theirs, and unlike the devs since he is not an NCSoft employee he has no motivation to disemble.
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I have a weird extra advantage here over the devs. Every time I say *anything* about Paragon Studios or the devs, even in jest, I think very carefully about whether or not I'm inappropriately misrepresenting them. Psychologically speaking, most people don't think nearly as hard about whether they are about to misrepresent their own selves.
In other words, I'm always thinking "will Castle agree with this in principle tomorrow" but Castle probably rarely says "will I agree with this in principle tomorrow." Its just not something most people do.
Also, it helps that I'm always right. Like when I said it wouldn't take very much code changes to implement power animation customization and BaB (long ago) said it would? Yeah, its like that.**
(Of course, it will still take thirty-two billion man hours to make new animations for everything, but that's completely irrelevant to me being always right)
** Its a bit more complicated than that, but that's *also* irrelevant to me always being right so that's the story I'm sticking with. Also, I know BaB is hard at work on I16, only reading the forums irregularly, doesn't save PMs, and unlikely to be in a position to contradict me. And he's an incredibly wonderful human being who wouldn't take revenge on a small joke by replacing all my power animations with whirlwind. And he's currently on probation and can't kill another forum poster without invoking the three-strikes rule.
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LOL.
I like when the big bad math lady gets funny.
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Flameboxer Aura LVL 50 SS/Fire Brute
Ice 'Em Aura LVL 50 Ice Tank
Darq Widow Fortune LVL 50 Fortunata (200% rech/Night Widow 192.5% rech)--thanks issue 19!
To me... going through the Dev Digest only for pure information and not for the wonderful amount of fun and silliness would be somewhat like eating a watermelon just for the seeds!
Or a PB&J just for the bread!
Or...
a platypus just for the tail!
Or...
Here it is...
That's like watching Monty Python just to look at women's bodies!
Or... like watching Monty Python to learn about proper military conduct!!
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Sorry to get you upset, but I had actually forgotten about your post. Although there can in theory be some loop holes in your statements that would allow Going Rogue to come out the same week as I16.
Also someone scooped you earlier in the thread.
Maybe BaBs was just echoing Caulderone's post in a classier way than just quoting it and not adding any extra text.
Issue 16 made me feel like this.
Warning: This poster likes to play Devil's Advocate.
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Whenever we coaxed a redname into talking about power customization, they'd always say it was a huge amount of work. My response was always, "I don't care, I want power customization, do it anyway." Well, I'm gonna get my wish come issue 16, so now I want to know: how long DID it end up taking? How many man hours was it? Obviously they're not done yet or we'd probably be in beta, but once they finish I want to know how long it took. For posterity.
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I'll let you know when we're done...
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So you ARE Working on it! Confirmed! (Even more so than it was)!
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It still hasn't been denied that I16 is the synchronization patch for Going Rogue.
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It hasn't?
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Not when BAB says it.
He may be a good Dev (in fact I know he is) but basically nothing he says in this forum about things happening in the future can ever be completely trusted 100%. He has a bad habit of having "limited" credibility in that area whether on purpose or not. Ironically if he's telling the truth here he's "embellished" other statements so much it's hard to take him at face value anymore. *shrugs*
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Harrumph!
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Don't worry about it, BABs. Lothic has the tendency to not believe any dev about anything they say since the very fact that they are devs makes them untrustworthy liars.
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It still hasn't been denied that I16 is the synchronization patch for Going Rogue.
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It hasn't?
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Not when BAB says it.
He may be a good Dev (in fact I know he is) but basically nothing he says in this forum about things happening in the future can ever be completely trusted 100%. He has a bad habit of having "limited" credibility in that area whether on purpose or not. Ironically if he's telling the truth here he's "embellished" other statements so much it's hard to take him at face value anymore. *shrugs*
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Harrumph!
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Don't worry about it, BABs. Lothic has the tendency to not believe any dev about anything they say since the very fact that they are devs makes them untrustworthy liars.
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Especially since Lothic (last I checked) still not happy that the dves took the time to change the alakazamreact emote to bring up random objects when one the juggle emotes still don't work when hovering (even after it was pointed out that it BAB said it was fixed but got broken again).
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It took x hours which could have been spent on real development if colors weren't more important to forum krybabies.
Infinity and Victory mostly
dUmb, etc.
lolz PvP anymore, Market PvP for fun and profit
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It took x hours which could have been spent on real development if colors weren't more important to forum krybabies.
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OSNAP!
Also, I LOLed.
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Not when BAB says it. [citation needed]
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Fixed that for ya. You're welcome.
-Bux
"Don't cry because it's over, smile because it happened." -- Dr. Seuss
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It took x hours which could have been spent on real development if colors weren't more important to forum krybabies.
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Funny, but hypocritical 
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To me... going through the Dev Digest only for pure information and not for the wonderful amount of fun and silliness would be somewhat like eating a watermelon just for the seeds!
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And it's the opposite for me. I only look at the dev digest for
stuff relevant to the game in some way. I'd rather not sort
through pointless off-cuff comments, or babble about movies.
Not that I don't think the devs have a right to post such like
anybody else - I just wish they wouldn't get Digest-ed.
Anyone can be funny(unintentionally or not.) If I'm going to go
through the trouble of eating a watermelon, I want the juicy,
relevant fruit, and the useless, pointless seeds get thrown away.
"Seedless" watermelons are the best!
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It still hasn't been denied that I16 is the synchronization patch for Going Rogue.
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It hasn't?
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Not when BAB says it.
He may be a good Dev (in fact I know he is) but basically nothing he says in this forum about things happening in the future can ever be completely trusted 100%. He has a bad habit of having "limited" credibility in that area whether on purpose or not. Ironically if he's telling the truth here he's "embellished" other statements so much it's hard to take him at face value anymore. *shrugs*
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And it's people like this clown that create the atmosphere that makes the devs not want to tell us anything.
Bravo, keep up the good work. Soon the devs will be like in most other MMO's and never talk to the playerbase.
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Especially since Lothic (last I checked) still not happy that the dves took the time to change the alakazamreact emote to bring up random objects when one the juggle emotes still don't work when hovering (even after it was pointed out that it BAB said it was fixed but got broken again).
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That was me...but in my defense:
1) I didn't know that the juggle emotes weren't working with flight at the time (technically, they were working, they were just being immediately interrupted by the flight idle animations)
2) It took about 10 minutes to copy the giant list of FX GEOs from Propel, and then remove the ones that were way too big
3) It made me giggle like a schoolgirl for a solid couple of hours.
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It still hasn't been denied that I16 is the synchronization patch for Going Rogue.
As was pointed out in a different discussion I6 was not City of Villains, it was Along Came a Spider which added 3 PVP Zones to the Hero Game and included a graphical update.
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It hasn't?
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To be fair, BaB, you were a little ambiguous there. A little more clarity would have helped...
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"To die hating NCSoft for shutting down City of Heroes, that was Freedom."