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RIP PX, GMW, and the game that used to be fun.
Still playing for reasons unknown.
Yeah this came out about a year ago. Strange it came back again.
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Too many ALTs
"One by one, Twixt coolly picked his opponents off."
LOL!
Wow, how much did he pay those people to write the article?
The study is a total epic failure. One must remain outside as an observer, not as a participant, in order to gain a neutral perspective on the community.
It's like walking into a tribal camp in South America that has never been exposed to the outside world, picking up a rock, chucking it at the head of the tribe's chief, and then documenting the results.
"Oi! Look at how mad they git when you wallop them upside the 'ead with a rock!"
But you know what...I must have missed this entire drama somehow. I had never heard of Twixt until that last thread about him writing a paper on the game.
Guess he couldn't have been that important, huh? Oh well...back to playing.
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This is why I have a horrible dislike for Anthropologists. They liken themselves to Psychologists and Sociologists insofar as using observation to determine relationships and effects yet believe that, in order to properly observe, one must actually join said system, completely ignoring the fact that their very presence alters the system.
The big problem I have with Twixt (or whatever his name is) is that, along with most Anthropologists analyzing internet culture, they're using anonymity to get away with things that would be completely inexcusable in any other medium. I've had repeated discussions with Anthropologists concerning the abuse of internet anonymity, and it always comes back to the Anthropologist insisting that, because they were anonymous, that they didn't do any harm to the system, no matter how injurious their behavior while anonymous actually was. Considering the lasting effects of Twixt (re: everyone that hates him and many of the people that hate PvP by extension), I think it would be far fetched for anyone to claim that he left the system in the same state that he entered it in, not to mention how he never actually informed anyone of his actual intent before or after subjecting them to his injurious behavior (injurious because it's specifically interfering with the player's enjoyment of the game). It's like going up to someone in a restaurant and playing the "I'm not touching you game" to see how long it will take them to leave and never mentioning it to anyone that you were doing it for pseudo-scientific purposes (and I do call Anthropology a pseudo-science; it's about as scientific as Literary Analysis).
As usual Umbral said what I was thinking more eloquently than I could ever put it.
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The professor was disturbed that game rules encouraging competition and varied tactics hardly mattered to gaming community members who wanted to preserve a deeply-rooted culture.
He said his experience demonstrated that modern-day social groups making use of modern-day technology can revert to "medieval and crude" methods in trying to manipulate and control others.
"If you aren't a member of the tribe, you get whacked with a stick," he said. "I look at social groups with dismay."
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So... he stomps on the established norms of social interaction in a given society... and is "dismayed" when he's cast out.
No wonder he likens it to a "bad high-school experience". Yes, anyone who acts "differently" in a social venue can become an outcast. But at least some have the chance to be accepted... as long as their "different" behavior is "acceptable". I should know; it worked fine for me.
Where to find me after the end:
The Secret World - Arcadia - Shinzo
Rift - Faeblight - Bloodspeaker
LotRO - Gladden - Aranelion
STO - Holodeck - @Captain_Thiraas
Obviously, I don't care about NCSoft's forum rules, now.
Eh, the problem that I have is that he's looking at the player imposed rules of PvP from the completely wrong angle. He sees them as a social stricture designed solo to keep everything at the status quo when, in reality, they're a generally agreed upon mode of action in order to allow every to actually enjoy PvP using basic social punishment techniques to discourage the specific actions that Twixt used and abused in order to do his thing.
The agreed upon stricture isn't "high school" with the various cliques and so-on-and-so-forth. It's more like the Geneva Conventions and other various Rules of War through the ages. They exist to let it be known to the world that using certain tactics isn't considering to be "right" because the consequences of those actions are antagonistic to the outcome that the larger community wants to see. Sure, we could use nuclear, chemical, and biological weapons in a war (hell, as the US, we've got more and better ones in all three categories than anyone else in the world!), but using them is going to be worse for the community (re: the world) than it would be to be victorious in other ways. The same applies to how Twixt repeatedly used tactics specifically outside of the agreed conventions of PvP (not to mention the fact that he was incredibly rude and seemed to revel in his outcast status, which always pisses off the community that outcast the person).
"As part of his experiment, Myers decided to play the game by the designers' rules -- disregarding any customs set by the players."
Last I checked the developers designed the base and police drones to provide a safe spot to gather, not to be used as a proxy for an attack by a particular player.
Maybe if he didn't keep killing me, I wouldn't have [censored] threatened him!
lol I'm kidding, It wasn't me.
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I'd pay the whole of the blood money I owe the Ecuadorian Mafia to see a 1v1 between Twixt and the Queen of 4Chan.
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This is why I have a horrible dislike for Anthropologists. They liken themselves to Psychologists and Sociologists insofar as using observation to determine relationships and effects yet believe that, in order to properly observe, one must actually join said system, completely ignoring the fact that their very presence alters the system.
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@Morac | Twitter
Trust the computer. The computer knows all.
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This is why I have a horrible dislike for Anthropologists. They liken themselves to Psychologists and Sociologists insofar as using observation to determine relationships and effects yet believe that, in order to properly observe, one must actually join said system, completely ignoring the fact that their very presence alters the system.
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Considering all of the Anthropologists I've met (and I've met a number of them at my school since I tend to hang out with the grad students rather than hanging out with the undergrads like I'm supposed to), it's turned out to be a rather accurate heuristic. Of course, I don't mean to apply it to everyone, but a vast majority of the Anthropologists I've met (which is a rather specialized subset considering my location) act and think in this way.
I think what I was more getting at is this: in making generalizations about Anthropologists, you dissed mah momma! I'ma getchu for dat one!
@Morac | Twitter
Trust the computer. The computer knows all.
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I think what I was more getting at is this: in making generalizations about Anthropologists, you dissed mah momma! I'ma getchu for dat one!
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Ooh! A threat by the child of a pair of soft scientists! I'm so scurred! 
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I think what I was more getting at is this: in making generalizations about Anthropologists, you dissed mah momma! I'ma getchu for dat one!
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Ooh! A threat by the child of a pair of soft scientists! I'm so scurred!
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I got 10 INF on Morac. Umbral's a great pansy since he lost the J-Force debt run.
*runs*
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Turg Fiction: Ghost in the Machine Acts III & IV coming 2012!
Turg Fiction: IX is now LIVE on Architect Entertainment!
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This is why I have a horrible dislike for Anthropologists. They liken themselves to Psychologists and Sociologists insofar as using observation to determine relationships and effects yet believe that, in order to properly observe, one must actually join said system, completely ignoring the fact that their very presence alters the system.
[/ QUOTE ]And this is why I have a horrible dislike for generalizations. No Anthropologist that I have met has ever held this to be a necessity, and I've met a fair few, seeing as both my parents had strong backgrounds in it (one an Anthropologist, and the other an Archeologist).
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Considering all of the Anthropologists I've met (and I've met a number of them at my school since I tend to hang out with the grad students rather than hanging out with the undergrads like I'm supposed to), it's turned out to be a rather accurate heuristic. Of course, I don't mean to apply it to everyone, but a vast majority of the Anthropologists I've met (which is a rather specialized subset considering my location) act and think in this way.
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Where does it say he's an anthropologist? All I see is that he is "media professor" and his website says he works in the Department of Mass Communication.
Global: @FuzzyOne
Find me playing these servers: Champion, Justice, Freedom, Virtue and Pinnacle
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This is why I have a horrible dislike for Anthropologists. They liken themselves to Psychologists and Sociologists insofar as using observation to determine relationships and effects yet believe that, in order to properly observe, one must actually join said system, completely ignoring the fact that their very presence alters the system.
[/ QUOTE ]And this is why I have a horrible dislike for generalizations. No Anthropologist that I have met has ever held this to be a necessity, and I've met a fair few, seeing as both my parents had strong backgrounds in it (one an Anthropologist, and the other an Archeologist).
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Considering all of the Anthropologists I've met (and I've met a number of them at my school since I tend to hang out with the grad students rather than hanging out with the undergrads like I'm supposed to), it's turned out to be a rather accurate heuristic. Of course, I don't mean to apply it to everyone, but a vast majority of the Anthropologists I've met (which is a rather specialized subset considering my location) act and think in this way.
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Where does it say he's an anthropologist? All I see is that he is "media professor" and his website says he works in the Department of Mass Communication.
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The methods he used here are more akin to those used by anthropologists than by legitimate psychologists and sociologists. He personally labels himself as a sociologist but the Twixt experiment isn't really set up as a sociological experiment and reads more closely to an anthropology paper. To me, there seems to be a definite mismatch between what he called himself and how he actually behaves (as far as Twixt is concerned).
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This is why I have a horrible dislike for Anthropologists. They liken themselves to Psychologists and Sociologists insofar as using observation to determine relationships and effects yet believe that, in order to properly observe, one must actually join said system, completely ignoring the fact that their very presence alters the system.
[/ QUOTE ]And this is why I have a horrible dislike for generalizations. No Anthropologist that I have met has ever held this to be a necessity, and I've met a fair few, seeing as both my parents had strong backgrounds in it (one an Anthropologist, and the other an Archeologist).
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Considering all of the Anthropologists I've met (and I've met a number of them at my school since I tend to hang out with the grad students rather than hanging out with the undergrads like I'm supposed to), it's turned out to be a rather accurate heuristic. Of course, I don't mean to apply it to everyone, but a vast majority of the Anthropologists I've met (which is a rather specialized subset considering my location) act and think in this way.
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Where does it say he's an anthropologist? All I see is that he is "media professor" and his website says he works in the Department of Mass Communication.
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The methods he used here are more akin to those used by anthropologists than by legitimate psychologists and sociologists. He personally labels himself as a sociologist but the Twixt experiment isn't really set up as a sociological experiment and reads more closely to an anthropology paper. To me, there seems to be a definite mismatch between what he called himself and how he actually behaves (as far as Twixt is concerned).
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Psychology degrees are not worth the paper on which they are printed. Psychologists are just scammers trying to sell books. At least a Psychiatrist has to go to medical school.
well, we gotta give the guy some credit. We are all still talking about him. Some in good way, some in a bad way etc.
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The methods he used here are more akin to those used by anthropologists than by legitimate psychologists and sociologists. He personally labels himself as a sociologist but the Twixt experiment isn't really set up as a sociological experiment and reads more closely to an anthropology paper. To me, there seems to be a definite mismatch between what he called himself and how he actually behaves (as far as Twixt is concerned).
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And you know this because you are an anthropologist or sociologist? You are quite critical of those disciplines. Do you have an appropriate background to make the statements that you did?
Global: @FuzzyOne
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Psychology degrees are not worth the paper on which they are printed. Psychologists are just scammers trying to sell books. At least a Psychiatrist has to go to medical school.
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And your background, sir? How are you qualified to make that judgement?
Global: @FuzzyOne
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I for one knew that something was up...there was allways a special little place in my heart for the guy.
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