Is there no realistic themed SG's out there?


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Ok, I am looking for an RP heavy SG for a blueside toon. Thing is I do not want a Silver age, or Golden Age hero doing the heroic thing, the Ninja training dojo theme or the Cat girl theme.

Is there no realistic themed SG's out there?


 

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So, what ARE you looking for, more specifically?


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...Realistic? Like a group of people who instead of fighting crime, sit around and complain about their jobs and how much their life sucks? Seriously, whatya expectin on a Superhero game?


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Uh, I think there really are ninja dojo....considering that ninja are real.


 

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...Realistic? Like a group of people who instead of fighting crime, sit around and complain about their jobs and how much their life sucks?

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OMG THAT'S PERFECT!


 

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i can see it now...
the shop clerk who doesn't want to be here for a hockey game with his side kick the video rental guy who gets enjoyment by putting others down.

and of course the classic "assistant manager" who spends his time pointing out everyone's faults... ahh the joy


 

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... I don't see why the question deserves the ridicule it gets.

I am not altogether sure what you perceive as realistic; is it a less genre oriented group? A more generic, not-themed one? A less black-and-white hero one?

I do think an elaboration would help people answer.


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When people have nothing intelligent to add, they flame. That is why there's all the ridicule.


 

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You mean like a SG where the theme was "A bunch of regular folks who just happen to also have powers"?
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I'm guessing he would mean more realistic in the sense of X-Men, Watchmen, etc... Groups where the heroes aren't all perfect, shiny, happy, friendly and instead have drama, problems, bothersome ticks and shades of grey...


Just a guess.


 

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I'm guessing he would mean more realistic in the sense of X-Men, Watchmen, etc... Groups where the heroes aren't all perfect, shiny, happy, friendly and instead have drama, problems, bothersome ticks and shades of grey...


Just a guess.

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Wait, what?
"Groups where the heroes aren't all perfect, shiny, happy, friendly and instead have drama, problems, bothersome ticks and shades of grey"?
This was posted in the Virtue forums, right?

i honestly hope the OP does post here again to clarify what he meant, because i really am interested in what constitutes realistic in a setting that routinely has extradimensional invasions and zombie attacks while fighting off gangs that fly around and shoot various sorts of blasts at you.


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... I don't see why the question deserves the ridicule it gets.

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When people have nothing intelligent to add, they flame. That is why there's all the ridicule.

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Where is the ridicule?
Where is the flaming?
Some of you guys really need some Ex-Lax and/or a Trojan.
Hopefully the OP has a sense of humor.


 

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i honestly hope the OP does post here again to clarify what he meant, because i really am interested in what constitutes realistic in a setting that routinely has extradimensional invasions and zombie attacks while fighting off gangs that fly around and shoot various sorts of blasts at you.


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It's not nearly as hard to achieve as all that, you know, and not nearly as much an oxymoron.

But, hey, if I dare actually go into a coherent discussion of realism as relevant to the setting, someone's bound to bludgeon me over not having a sense of humour.


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Given the sheer number of SG's out there I think most any theme you could want is available. But yes more specific would be better. But given that super heroes are an inherently non-realistic concept the word realistic really is not much help.


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i honestly hope the OP does post here again to clarify what he meant, because i really am interested in what constitutes realistic in a setting that routinely has extradimensional invasions and zombie attacks while fighting off gangs that fly around and shoot various sorts of blasts at you.


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It's not nearly as hard to achieve as all that, you know, and not nearly as much an oxymoron.

But, hey, if I dare actually go into a coherent discussion of realism as relevant to the setting, someone's bound to bludgeon me over not having a sense of humour.

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Right, but i want clarification as to what the OP meant since there are several ways realistic can be interpreted the context of this game....


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I'm guessing he would mean more realistic in the sense of X-Men, Watchmen, etc... Groups where the heroes aren't all perfect, shiny, happy, friendly and instead have drama, problems, bothersome ticks and shades of grey...


Just a guess.

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Seems to me to be a pretty safe assumption, given the types of SG he ruled out.


 

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I think he means more along the lines of S.C.O.R.P.I.O no? I'm not a member but certainly would love to be. They are more based around natural mercenaries I believe.


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I'm guessing he would mean more realistic in the sense of X-Men, Watchmen, etc... Groups where the heroes aren't all perfect, shiny, happy, friendly and instead have drama, problems, bothersome ticks and shades of grey...


Just a guess.

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Seems to me to be a pretty safe assumption, given the types of SG he ruled out.

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I would actually think he is looking for groups more like G.A.R. back when I was more active... at a guess

just a group of nearly everyday folks trying to do good in the world, even though there was a demon, vampire, vampire/elf, couple of "Guys", reformed criminals, an alien invader trying to be a hero, several hot females, just a typical every day kinda club


 

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I would just prefer that the OP clarify what a "realistic themed SG" is in his view.

OP, take it away...


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I'm guessing he would mean more realistic in the sense of X-Men, Watchmen, etc... Groups where the heroes aren't all perfect, shiny, happy, friendly and instead have drama, problems, bothersome ticks and shades of grey...

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Yes, cause we just don't have enough anti-heroes on Virtue.


 

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Wow, never expected this to get the huge response it has. To clarify....realistic in a comic book sense? I mean that personally I hate the "Up, up and away" feel of all those Siver and Golden age groups, and on blueside they are many! Then you look at the next possible set in themed or atleast in RP groups and you get either the tecnicolored ninja squadrons or the school girl /cat girl anime SG.

Not eveyone that has powers is out saving the world for the fame and glory. Not all super powered people go to hero high.

On redside I am a member of 2 VGs. 1 is a corporate research facility.My toon is basically a field tester. The other is a Merc Organization in which I am part of the "shock and awe" team (basically the wrecking crew". Neither is villians for villany or any stereotipical crap like that. Not that there is anything wrong with it but it is not my style.

Funny thing is I am looking at SCORPIO for an interview.


 

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If SCORPIO doesn't pan out for you, give the Guardian Angels a look if you like. Though it does sound like they might be closer to what you're looking for, so good luck with 'em. I don't know any of them but their concept is very cool.


 

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Wow, never expected this to get the huge response it has. To clarify....realistic in a comic book sense? I mean that personally I hate the "Up, up and away" feel of all those Siver and Golden age groups, and on blueside they are many! Then you look at the next possible set in themed or atleast in RP groups and you get either the tecnicolored ninja squadrons or the school girl /cat girl anime SG.

Not eveyone that has powers is out saving the world for the fame and glory. Not all super powered people go to hero high.

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Pardon my saying so, but you're asking for a realistic version of something fictional. You say "not everyone that has powers..." Well, that's fiction. If you want realistic, nobody has powers.

But in response to your question, only a couple of my characters are what I'd consider "Superman rank." Most of my characters are naturals. And all of my characters have some sort of inherent weakness or flaw.

The main problem with roleplaying weaker, natural characters is it works the opposite way for realism. It's hard to explain why my girl with a sword can withstand bullets or not evaporate when some all-powerful magician in Pocket D decides to zap her with fire.


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I have heard this argument so many times... It never holds water, one way or another.

There is such a thing as R"eality", and that has a defined meaning - unless we ever find positive proof for alternate realities, of course - which is this everyday world in which I sit and type down a response to a game forum in a game where people engage in a sort of structured storytelling.

Then there's "realism", which is a different animal alltogether.

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In literature realism refers to verisimilitude of narrative (whether or not a story is believable) or to verisimilitude of characterization (whether or not the characters are believable). Verisimilitude was introduced in literature when - in the latter half of the second millenium - the novel replaced the romance as primary literary genre. [Jan 2007]


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Granted, a great many people see comics and sci-fi as the modern heirs to the mideival romance - and the genre of lack of verisimilitude - but that issue of whether one can, and should, write realistic science fiction, realistic fantasy and realistic comics is under debate, not decided to the negative.

The big issues are verisimilitude of characterization - that is, a portrayal of a personality which is believable and grounded within concepts we know - and consistency of story - for instance, no Deus ex Machina or ungrounded leaps out of nowhere. The portrayal of reality whic, while it has fantastic elements, is full ofits own flaws, gritty and unidealised is also a major factor in the establishment of realism.

And for those who want the tl;dr version: So what if it's a comic? it can be a good, realistic comic.


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