Which GM's nobody wants to fight anymore.

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The Kronos Titan seems to be fairly rarely fought, probably since he's a mission ambush and all and there's other places you can get his badge. When I got the arc, I spent a while preparing for him.

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He's just not readily available as many of the others.

My vote goes for Lusca.. too much effort for little gain. When you get her once, there is no reason to bother again.

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The only one I've never been a part of is the GM in Cap au Diable, Caleb. I'd like to do that one once. It is really difficult to get him to spawn though.

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Part of the problem with getting him to spawn in Cap might be that he's in Nerva :P

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Blueside: Lusca, Effort for the reward, not worth the time.

Redside: Arachnos Flyer & Caleb, again the effort to get them to show up, not worth it, Flyer is a pain in butt, unless you got a team(s) of 8 or so, waiting all day, with spotters all around to catch it, then run your rear off to it, try take it down before it flys off... I still havent gotten that badge.

Same for Caleb, I got the badge once on Triumph, not once on Virtue, the effort to get him to spawn, pain in the butt, then trying find him before daylight, also a pain. Even though he's suppose to spawn in the sky above Thorn Island, he's not always there.


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Yeah I'd have to say Lusca as well. It's sort of like battling 9 Giant Monsters since each tentacle has the power to pound an entire team to bits and because of that 2 or 3 eight man teams are needed to succeed. At times it's tough even finding 8 people to form one GM team let alone 16 or more to take on the huge plate of unprepared Calamari.

Add the fact that after having to FIND the darn thing since it dives for cover and can resurface someplace else after each tentacle is dispatched .. and it pays out 2 Merits? The same as I can get with a 5 or 6 man team defeating Adamastor in DA and you can see why it's NOT the most sought after monster in game.

Of course I'm a little crazy I love GM battles so LUSCA, Eochia, Jurrasik or whatever if I am available I am there. LOL I fought Eochia 3 times in one day with my tank and two of those were dual battles taking on Jack in Irons as well. AND that was back BEFORE they starting paying out merits. I TOLD YOU I WAS CRAZY

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I like beating down Lusca. Yeah, it takes about ten people and I tend to bring Force Fielder or Rad backup, but it's kinda fun for me.

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Deathsurge was cool.

So was the Kraken although my second attempt wasn't nearly as successful.

Those are the only two I've been a part of and beaten. We tried to take Babbage down during a Synapse but we just didn't have what it takes. After several minutes of fighting and neither side being hurt we gave it up as boring.

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The Babbage encounter in a Synapse TF can usually be solved pretty quickly by using your global channels or coalition to give the location for the encounter and requesting backup. Granted I'm on a higher population server than you are (Virtue), but I can't remember ever being in a situation where at least three or four people didn't come to help.

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Yep that works on Virtue everytime. I just did the SYnapse TF earlier and as we headed into the mission that spawns him I made a broadcast on several globals I KNOW have a considerable number of badgers. As we exited I broadcast again but it wasn't needed.. There was already one entire 8 man team waiting to assist.
We had two Rads on the TF, including me, so between all that radiation and 16 people pounding him Babbage went down FAST.

A newer player on the Tf commented how it was amazing that all those people were there to help JUST like that. LOL I replied..

Just like that my butt. I fight a GM I have no problem screaming for HELP! Fact is we had had a pretty good team with a great mix of damage and controls and probably could have handled him ourselves but I always like to let the badgers know when he's available and I have never done that TF and not had at least 5 or more show up to assist.

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Yeah I'd have to say Lusca as well. It's sort of like battling 9 Giant Monsters since each tentacle has the power to pound an entire team to bits and because of that 2 or 3 eight man teams are needed to succeed. At times it's tough even finding 8 people to form one GM team let alone 16 or more to take on the huge plate of unprepared Calamari.

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2 or 3 teams? Without specialization, it only takes 2 or 3 people to take down Lusca. With specialization, it only takes 1. A single full team should utterly crush Lusca. I only wish such a GM were available red-side...my toons over there could probably wreck Lusca without a problem solo (or needing a permanent supply line of Inspirations).

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Well no wonder I could never get Caleb to spawn. I was killing the Spectal Demons in Cap. Doooh!! I'd never kill 100 though w/o a team.

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They're easy to kill when they're grey, like the ones around Primeva and Thorn Isle in Nerva are for a 50....

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Deathsurge was cool.

So was the Kraken although my second attempt wasn't nearly as successful.

Those are the only two I've been a part of and beaten. We tried to take Babbage down during a Synapse but we just didn't have what it takes. After several minutes of fighting and neither side being hurt we gave it up as boring.

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The Babbage encounter in a Synapse TF can usually be solved pretty quickly by using your global channels or coalition to give the location for the encounter and requesting backup. Granted I'm on a higher population server than you are (Virtue), but I can't remember ever being in a situation where at least three or four people didn't come to help.

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Yep that works on Virtue everytime. I just did the SYnapse TF earlier and as we headed into the mission that spawns him I made a broadcast on several globals I KNOW have a considerable number of badgers. As we exited I broadcast again but it wasn't needed.. There was already one entire 8 man team waiting to assist.
We had two Rads on the TF, including me, so between all that radiation and 16 people pounding him Babbage went down FAST.

A newer player on the Tf commented how it was amazing that all those people were there to help JUST like that. LOL I replied..

Just like that my butt. I fight a GM I have no problem screaming for HELP! Fact is we had had a pretty good team with a great mix of damage and controls and probably could have handled him ourselves but I always like to let the badgers know when he's available and I have never done that TF and not had at least 5 or more show up to assist.

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I think I was there for your Babbage spawn, using the female fire/kin I hunt GMs with. Saw the request on the Virtue LFG Alpha channel and switched to help since I was done with the arc I was running on another toon. That fight was quick.

Then I went off to Boomtown and fought Babbage solo to kill time while waiting for a phone call...

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Of course I'm a little crazy I love GM battles so LUSCA, Eochia, Jurrasik or whatever if I am available I am there. LOL I fought Eochia 3 times in one day with my tank and two of those were dual battles taking on Jack in Irons as well. AND that was back BEFORE they starting paying out merits. I TOLD YOU I WAS CRAZY

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I used to lead GM hunts once a week or so with my dark/regen scrapper back before they gave merits or even were announced that they were up. Yes, I like GM hunts too.

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Assuming I can convince the necessary two people, it will be done again. Hopefully Lusca will be spawned in an ideal location, away from the gawkers.

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Assuming I can convince the necessary two people, it will be done again. Hopefully Lusca will be spawned in an ideal location, away from the gawkers.

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If you're saying you need two specific people to do it, then that kinda throws out your idea of not needing any kind of specialization, no?

I'm with Fulmens on this one....

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I've had an easier time getting teams together to fight GMs on redside. At least in Cap and Sharkhead.

Sending out a "Deathsurge is up" or a "Scrapyard is at _______" gets some people running to pile in on the action. At least in my experience. And this was on Pinnacle.

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I only wish such a GM were available red-side...my toons over there could probably wreck Lusca without a problem solo (or needing a permanent supply line of Inspirations).

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I could probably pull a similar statement out of my butt too, especially if, like this, I'd never have to back it up.

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Assuming I can convince the necessary two people, it will be done again. Hopefully Lusca will be spawned in an ideal location, away from the gawkers.

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If you're saying you need two specific people to do it, then that kinda throws out your idea of not needing any kind of specialization, no?

I'm with Fulmens on this one....

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I've duoed Jack in Irons with my Rad/Sonic defender and my wife's Plant/Kin controller. It took a long time, but we did it. Would have gone a lot smoother if we hadn't had to deal with that fear cone he throws out every 20 seconds.

Duoed Kraken a few times too. I'll eventually be able to solo a few of them, but my character isn't built for it yet, being level 45 with almost no IOs.

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I've had an easier time getting teams together to fight GMs on redside. At least in Cap and Sharkhead.

Sending out a "Deathsurge is up" or a "Scrapyard is at _______" gets some people running to pile in on the action. At least in my experience. And this was on Pinnacle.

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Lucky. I spent months trying to get enough people together to deal with Scrappy on Virtue. Could never seem to find more than three or so people interested in fighting him.

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Assuming I can convince the necessary two people, it will be done again. Hopefully Lusca will be spawned in an ideal location, away from the gawkers.

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If you're saying you need two specific people to do it, then that kinda throws out your idea of not needing any kind of specialization, no?

I'm with Fulmens on this one....

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Specific person != Specialized toon.
There is a difference between asking for competence/intelligence from another person and designing an Ill/Rad (or other option) that is expressly targeted towards a particular goal. If you don't understand that difference, nothing I do will be 'good enough' in your eyes (especially now that there is a new "Gotta be less than 25!!!" condition thrown out...).

And before it gets more drawn out: I'm challenging the notion of needing [key word] two or three full teams when one team is more than enough to bring everything that could ever be needed.

But... It's probably meaningless at this point, since all that will be argued is semantics over the term "specialization".

"Hey, you built your 3-person team with x, y, and z, that's over-specialized! Unless you do it with 3 melee-oriented Blasters, it's not fair!11!"

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Just because it may be possible, doesn't mean it's common by any stretch of the imagination.

The point is.. if Lusca is up.. will somebody pass by and decide: "Hey, I want to defeat her. I think I'll advertise."? Maybe a few, but most people will just keep going... wheras they might be more inclined to grab a team for Kraken (for example).

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A single full team should utterly crush Lusca.

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As for "Gotta be less than 25!!!".. I only mentioned that it's more common for teams of that lvl range to pass by and decide to try to defeat her.. which usually doesn't end well unless they get even more people first. Other GMs can be dealt with easier at a wider range of levels, and can usually be taken down with a single PuG team with no restrictions like AT, lvl or "specific person".

Can a single team of any lvl 50s take her down?.. sure, but again it's not that common for a lvl 50 to suddenly advertise for her either, nor would they turn down the lvl 25s that want to jump in while the team is forming... which will usually lead to a 2nd team being formed as well.

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I only asked this question, because, if I ever decide to form a team to take down a GM, I want to know which GM's are worth taking down, and which aren't. And by the way, my Level 27 Rad/Rad Defender, when she was Level 21 or Level 22, I don't remember exactly which level she was, got 3 other people to help her take out the GM in Boomtown, and that was a fast fight!

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Personally, I think most of the issues with the GM's would be solved if they would make them worth much, much more to defeat, and make them spawn much, much less.

Make it an actual "event", and everyone will want to be on board for it.

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Ug.

Attack of the 50 ft junk.

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You shouldn't I watched two friends take Lusca down. Just the two of them.

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You shouldn't I watched two friends take Lusca down. Just the two of them.

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Yeah, probably both Rad/ Defenders, right? Not everyone wants to fight GMs with only their Rad/ Def or /Rad trollers.

Try taking her out with two Inv/ Tankers or two /Regen Scrappers. You'll never get anywhere.

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