Why do the Carnival girls die holding their heads?
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Abigail Frost,
Posted on: 2009-06-12 11:47 in CoH and CoV General Discussions
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Personally I will WALK to Mountain View and bow down before the devs if they make Carnie costume pieces unlockable - the masks, the dresses, and the weapons would rock. Even the outfits the Seneschals wear would be fantastic.
(For example, instead of Fire Sword, gimme that torch and let me swing that sucker around!)
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We need to be able to unlock more costume pieces from every enemy group we fight. Yes, even Arachnos.
And I'd love me some Nemesis costume pieces. And no, not weapon/shield customizations, costume pieces.
Yes, I know CoT robes aren't possible, but what about that hat and shoulders?
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Because of the 'hook' Vanessa has via the masks, it is tricky to roleplay a reformed Carnie, if one sticks to canon.
So far my end runs around the problem have been:
* Mask shot off and shattered - Cosmic Seneschal (Carnie outfit, plate covering bullet scar)
* Mask forcibly removed via magic (resulting in amnesia) - Electric Seneschal (carnie outfit, elec/elec blaster)
* Character is mindblind, and kicked out of Carnival because of it (Bitter December, ice/cold dominator).
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I have one that was captured by crey, turned into a cyborg, and their mental reprogramming combined with her own latent psychic powers is what broke the carnie hold on her.
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and the men are corpses!
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And sometimes still call each other 'ladies' if you get a spawn of all Strongmen. I love hard-coded NPC chat.
Having Vengeance and Fallout slotted for recharge means never having to say you're sorry.
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Anyone else think that the carnies are hawt? Especially when they do that scream thing?
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Sigh...
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Protonic...
...your avatar scares the hell out of me.
Well met!
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Right click and choose properties - get a load of the file name.
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It is the same when they pass out too.
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Personally I will WALK to Mountain View and bow down before the devs if they make Carnie costume pieces unlockable - the masks, the dresses, and the weapons would rock. Even the outfits the Seneschals wear would be fantastic.
(For example, instead of Fire Sword, gimme that torch and let me swing that sucker around!)
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Let me get my walkin shoes.
I would be equally grateful for such a boon. While the jester masks, parts, and new bolero go a long way toward a Carnie look, I'd love to be able to get closer. I started the Carnival of Light SG on Champion (heh, Hi Dollhouse! Assumed someone else somewhere had to have done similar) on a lark one day, and while I got the costumes pretty good, they could be so much better.
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It is, apparently, Vanessa's psyche.
Vanessa was possessed. She is now very much in control, to the point where it would be more accurate to say Giovanna is imprisoned in her head. More to the point, by the time you fight Vanessa you have already gone inside her head and eliminated Giovanna.
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If you look I did point to the wiki, which also lists her powers! 
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This is why I've always maintained that there should not be a Carnies based mastermind set (back when there was much talk of making one), unless it's a separate epic AT.
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Well, when I've said I want a carnie MM, I was referring to carnival types, not Carnival of Shadows.
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Negaduck: I see you found the crumb. I knew you'd never notice the huge flag.
I managed to get a really cool screenshot of Vanessa's psyche leaving the bodies of some defeated Carnies: Here
Back when I took it, I thought it was funny that the Strongman had a female spirit leaving his body, but now I get it!
I really love the Carnies conceptually. Every time I'm on an outdoor mission with the big tents, I stop by them for a few seconds and listen to the music. 
I'm just a holy fool, oh baby it's so cruel
Thessalia, by Darkchildx2k
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I managed to get a really cool screenshot of Vanessa's psyche leaving the bodies of some defeated Carnies: Here
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Whoa, never saw that before! I may have to reset my graphics setting...
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I managed to get a really cool screenshot of Vanessa's psyche leaving the bodies of some defeated Carnies: Here
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Whoa, never saw that before! I may have to reset my graphics setting...
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lol I said the exact same thing. Will be double checking my graphics settings the min. I get home after work.
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I managed to get a really cool screenshot of Vanessa's psyche leaving the bodies of some defeated Carnies: Here
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Whoa, never saw that before! I may have to reset my graphics setting...
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lol I said the exact same thing. Will be double checking my graphics settings the min. I get home after work.
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I managed to get a really cool screenshot of Vanessa's psyche leaving the bodies of some defeated Carnies: Here
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Whoa, never saw that before! I may have to reset my graphics setting...
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lol I said the exact same thing. Will be double checking my graphics settings the min. I get home after work.
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I pretty much run with everything on max, I think. That screenshot was pure luck, though- I was mashing printscreen to catch my friend on the left dinging 50, and it happened to catch that too. Now that I know it's Vanessa, it's even cooler. One of my favorite shots I've managed to get.
I'm just a holy fool, oh baby it's so cruel
Thessalia, by Darkchildx2k
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I managed to get a really cool screenshot of Vanessa's psyche leaving the bodies of some defeated Carnies: Here
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Whoa, never saw that before! I may have to reset my graphics setting...
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lol I said the exact same thing. Will be double checking my graphics settings the min. I get home after work.
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I pretty much run with everything on max, I think. That screenshot was pure luck, though- I was mashing printscreen to catch my friend on the left dinging 50, and it happened to catch that too. Now that I know it's Vanessa, it's even cooler. One of my favorite shots I've managed to get.
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Actually kind of looks like ghost widow... It's the tights and hair.
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Originally Posted by Samuel_Tow
City of Heroes is a game about freedom of expression and variety of experiences far more so than it is about representing any one theme, topic or genre.
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If you watch carefully, when they are defeated, you can see their souls departing. I believe this is Vanessa DeVore eating their souls. The punishment for failure.
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For support of this theory, read up on the group's backgrounder, here.
Warning, this contains spoilers.
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American Steele: 50 BS/Inv
Nightfall: 50 DDD
Sable Slayer: 50 DM/Rgn
Fortune's Shadow: 50 Dark/Psi
WinterStrike: 47 Ice/Dev
Quantum Well: 43 Inv/EM
Twilit Destiny: 43 MA/DA
Red
Shadowslip: 50 DDC
Final Rest: 50 MA/Rgn
Abyssal Frost: 50 Ice/Dark
Golden Ember: 50 SM/FA
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Carnies are one of the more seriously creepy groups in the game. Forget the women, has anyone taken a good look at the men? Each has his entire back covered with whip marks. Vanessa must get her jollies in some decidedly non-teen rated ways.
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If you have not followed the arcs, the truth behind the male carnies may be far more creepy than you know.
Blue
American Steele: 50 BS/Inv
Nightfall: 50 DDD
Sable Slayer: 50 DM/Rgn
Fortune's Shadow: 50 Dark/Psi
WinterStrike: 47 Ice/Dev
Quantum Well: 43 Inv/EM
Twilit Destiny: 43 MA/DA
Red
Shadowslip: 50 DDC
Final Rest: 50 MA/Rgn
Abyssal Frost: 50 Ice/Dark
Golden Ember: 50 SM/FA
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I managed to get a really cool screenshot of Vanessa's psyche leaving the bodies of some defeated Carnies: Here
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Whoa, never saw that before! I may have to reset my graphics setting...
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I get home after work.
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Well I'd hate for you to get work after home.
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Because of the 'hook' Vanessa has via the masks, it is tricky to roleplay a reformed Carnie, if one sticks to canon.
So far my end runs around the problem have been:
* Mask shot off and shattered - Cosmic Seneschal (Carnie outfit, plate covering bullet scar)
* Mask forcibly removed via magic (resulting in amnesia) - Electric Seneschal (carnie outfit, elec/elec blaster)
* Character is mindblind, and kicked out of Carnival because of it (Bitter December, ice/cold dominator).
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Though, IIRC, wasn't there a Harvey mission where you fight Carnival Mistresses who are working on a coup to take over the Carnival? That would imply that not only are they not tightly under Vanessa's thumb, but a sufficiently skilled Carnival Mistress can run around following her own plans, even if those plans are potentially detrimental to Vanessa.
Though, again IIRC, the reason they were able to get away with it is that Vanessa didn't know who specifically was the problem. Better not give any interviews...
@Mindshadow
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Why do the girls of the Carnival (I don't think the bottles do it though) die holding their heads? 
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Originally, they removed their head and handed it to you. But apparently giving head didn't go over so well.
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I just like fighting them because they're weak to Lethal and I can dodge their attacks.
I never even noticed they had an endurance drain power til someone pointed it out.
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Carnies are one of the more seriously creepy groups in the game. Forget the women, has anyone taken a good look at the men? Each has his entire back covered with whip marks. Vanessa must get her jollies in some decidedly non-teen rated ways.
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If you have not followed the arcs, the truth behind the male carnies may be far more creepy than you know.
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The particular clue you're referencing has puzzled me, on and off. I don't know that all--or even many--of them are like that. I did go so far as to pose a question to Castle about it, and received the response, "I'm not sure on the fiction behind it, but I am assured by the writers that Strongmen are not undead."
Also, some guys just aren't cut out to be Strongmen.
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Carnies are one of the more seriously creepy groups in the game. Forget the women, has anyone taken a good look at the men? Each has his entire back covered with whip marks. Vanessa must get her jollies in some decidedly non-teen rated ways.
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If you have not followed the arcs, the truth behind the male carnies may be far more creepy than you know.
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The particular clue you're referencing has puzzled me, on and off. I don't know that all--or even many--of them are like that. I did go so far as to pose a question to Castle about it, and received the response, "I'm not sure on the fiction behind it, but I am assured by the writers that Strongmen are not undead."
Also, some guys just aren't cut out to be Strongmen.
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Let's just say the Ghost Slaying Axe does extra damage against Strongmen, and there's an arc that has you figure out why.
Maps would be War Witch, I think. She's level design. It's an excellent idea.
And.... YES. That would be such an awesome thing, to have this as a costume set. Sexy Jay? You know you wanna.
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