What's so good about Air Superiority?
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Posted on: 2009-06-11 19:11 in Archetypes and Powers General Discussion
It's really good for a power pool attack, probably the best. It does knockup and it does -fly, plus it does reasonably good damage.
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100% chance of the low magnitude knockup
It wont work against (almost all) AVs, they tend to have high resistance to knockback/knockup.
% chance can be seen in game drag the power to your chat tab and click on the link it creates or type in yourself like: [Air Superiority]
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Think of it as soft control. With the exception of AVs, with enough recharge you can keep just about any other target on it's backside as long as you can hit it while you interchange AS with other attacks.
I used this to solo Snaptooth down on Unyielding and level my baby brute 10 levels from 14-24 and gather enough candy canes for all the badges and a complete set of Winter's Gift during the Winter Event. That's how good it is.
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Talking about mid, any idea when it will get ugraded to include I14 sets? Gladiator's armor is not there.
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According to a post in another thread, Mids original designer is throwing in the towel. But, someone else is apparently taking lead over it, so we should be seeing updates in the future.
Also, check out the KB and recharge on AS. It's up every few secs, and can knock down bosses with each use, mitigating unbelievable amounts of damage.
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As people have said: It's a defensive tool that happens to do "one damage scale" of damage. Which is respectable (if a tiny bit low) on a Scrapper, and virtually unnoticeable on a Blaster.
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I also use it as an attack chain filler at low levels and for my energy melee tank's entire build (post EM nerfs).
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I take this quite a bit especially since I always take fly as my travel power. As already stated it has a great knock up capability and even without enhancements recharges fairly fast and has a good amount of accuracy.
On my scrappers and tanks this adds another good GO TO attack to my chain. On Controller, Defenders, and Blasters this IS my go to attack if I have a villain in melle range. It puts that villain on his back allowing me to move back out of range and then hit him with ranged attacks, holds, immobs, whatever to ensure he doesn't get another chance to hit me.
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Hi,
I've heard a lot of good thing about air superiority but looking at it in Mid doesn't tell me why it's so good, does it have a high % of working?
Some say it's good to keep AV on their butt, how so?
Why does it stack with war mace when it's a KB effect and mace is mostly desorient effect?
While I'm at it where can I see the % chance of applying the status effects? Mid doesn't seem to have them.
Talking about mid, any idea when it will get ugraded to include I14 sets? Gladiator's armor is not there.
thanks
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Well its awesome that's why 
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100% chance of the low magnitude knockup
It wont work against (almost all) AVs, they tend to have high resistance to knockback/knockup.
% chance can be seen in game drag the power to your chat tab and click on the link it creates or type in yourself like: [Air Superiority]
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if no % it means 100%? like Knockout blow?
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if no % it means 100%? like Knockout blow?
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I always take Air Sup and Fly on any melee character unless there's a strong reason not to. (The only recent character that has not is a Dark Melee/Super Reflex scrapper, who took Combat Jumping to stack on a bit of defense.)
Air Superiority does so many useful things I really miss it when I play a character that doesn't have it. It stops runners. It takes care of flying Freaks, Malta, and other nuisances. It takes any single mob out of the fight for several seconds, and as such adds valuable mitigation, at least solo or in small teams.
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I always take Air Sup and Fly on any melee character unless there's a strong reason not to. (The only recent character that has not is a Dark Melee/Super Reflex scrapper, who took Combat Jumping to stack on a bit of defense.)
Air Superiority does so many useful things I really miss it when I play a character that doesn't have it. It stops runners. It takes care of flying Freaks, Malta, and other nuisances. It takes any single mob out of the fight for several seconds, and as such adds valuable mitigation, at least solo or in small teams.
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vouche for that, its huge solo. Makes an alt that has trouble with a red LT all the sudden able to beat a purple con boss. Boss gets one attack you pow KD run your attack chain as hee gets up, time it right an pow he's on butt again, no attack, heck even miss time it he gets one attack, and you get to cycle your chain some more while he stands. And it recharges faster then a single MoB will stand.
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Why does it stack with war mace when it's a KB effect and mace is mostly desorient effect?
[/ QUOTE ]Mace has a bunch of KD/KU
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While I'm at it where can I see the % chance of applying the status effects? Mid doesn't seem to have them.
[/ QUOTE ]In the Effects tab, hover your mouse over an effect, it will show the chance to occur, if it's less than 100%.
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Hi,
I've heard a lot of good thing about air superiority but looking at it in Mid doesn't tell me why it's so good, does it have a high % of working?
Some say it's good to keep AV on their butt, how so?
Why does it stack with war mace when it's a KB effect and mace is mostly desorient effect?
While I'm at it where can I see the % chance of applying the status effects? Mid doesn't seem to have them.
Talking about mid, any idea when it will get ugraded to include I14 sets? Gladiator's armor is not there.
thanks
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Try it for yourself and you'll see. 
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If you ask me, it's due for a nerf bat. AS is better than a lot of tier 2 and 3 primary set attacks, and that's just plain broken. Compare it to any other pool attack; it's better than them all by a wide margin.
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Compare it to any other pool attack; it's better than them all by a wide margin.
[/ QUOTE ]Actually, as far as damage is concerned, it's worse than Jump Kick. They do the same damage with the same activation time, but JK has a faster recharge.
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This is what's so good about Air Superiority:
Low-health low-level blaster: oh, crud, a boss! [AS]
Boss: [gets up]
Blaster: [AS] Guys? Lil help here?
Boss: [gets up]
Blaster: [AS] Stay down, you! Halp!
Boss: [gets up]
Blaster: [AS] I need some cavalry!
Boss: [gets up]
Teammates: [blow hell out of the boss]
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If you ask me, it's due for a nerf bat. AS is better than a lot of tier 2 and 3 primary set attacks, and that's just plain broken. Compare it to any other pool attack; it's better than them all by a wide margin.
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It is probably a bit too good. Also I personally don't love the animation of the target - Knockup with a 1.25 Flip...from an overhead *Downward* twofisted smash... 
Well, it's designed as an anti-Flight power, so the downward smash makes sense when you look at air to air combat.
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If you ask me, it's due for a nerf bat. AS is better than a lot of tier 2 and 3 primary set attacks, and that's just plain broken. Compare it to any other pool attack; it's better than them all by a wide margin.
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To be comparable, it should be ~10% chance of knockup but keep the 100% -fly for X seconds portion.
I will be sad when it changes, as I do use it extensively, especially on non-melee characters for some in your face control.
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Combine the decent damage with controller's containment, and it becomes a must-have for many of my controller builds.
I agree the backflip animation doesn't make much sense. Plus, the two-fisted smash is used by several other powers, so I wouldn't be against some graphical changes.
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If you ask me, it's due for a nerf bat. AS is better than a lot of tier 2 and 3 primary set attacks, and that's just plain broken. Compare it to any other pool attack; it's better than them all by a wide margin.
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Like was stated the damage is meh. The secondary effect is pretty much what you get from the Kinetic Combat chance for knockdown proc, just more reliable. I think it fits what it is supposed to do. I don't see any reason to nerf it, nor has there been any indication from any credible sources that it is even in line for an adjustment. Where the heck did that crapola come from?
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Hi,
I've heard a lot of good thing about air superiority but looking at it in Mid doesn't tell me why it's so good, does it have a high % of working?
Some say it's good to keep AV on their butt, how so?
Why does it stack with war mace when it's a KB effect and mace is mostly desorient effect?
While I'm at it where can I see the % chance of applying the status effects? Mid doesn't seem to have them.
Talking about mid, any idea when it will get ugraded to include I14 sets? Gladiator's armor is not there.
thanks