Boomtown Interviews Positron About Issue 13!
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Alvdraken,
Posted on: 2008-11-12 17:50 in News, Events and Announcement Discussion
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Matt Miller:There is no better indicator that power is TOO powerful than the fact that a higher than normal amount of characters take it.
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or is just needed, e.g. Stamina.
Looking forward to I13 and I14!
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I would have thought that there most dedicated players are the one's staying rather than the one's leaving....
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I know i may be in the minority here but I am not egarly awaiting Mission Architect... I am sorely disappointed that is going to be the only feature of i14...
I was really hoping for something more... maybe i am just a little burnt out and that is making my view jaded, dont know... but I was at least hoping for some Power Proliferation at least... heck anything would do... AR for defenders or whatever...
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Think of it this way: What will the devs who are not involved with the Mission Architect be doing while others are working on I14? I'm betting that they'll be working on the stuff that'll be in I15 which has been hinted to be a high content issue.
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Matt miller didnt say that, the interviewer did. Everyone look, we just witnessed how a rumor is born!
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Yup, I skimmed it quick and misremembered that bit. Even though Posi didn't correct the interviewer, it was clearly the interviewer's opinion, not that of the devs.
Sorry 'bout that.
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alittle too....unhonest really..he wonders how his dom does in pvp?..they been fotm for like the entire year*shrugs*
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Further proof how disconnected they are from PvP.
Infinity and Victory mostly
dUmb, etc.
lolz PvP anymore, Market PvP for fun and profit
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This depresses me. This game is dying. Posi and crew have lost touch with their most dedicated player base.
I am actually sad.
They just need to look at their sub numbers to see its true. Lowest playerbase number yet. My friends and other players leaving by the dozen and no new real content on the horizon till is 15.
This sucks
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I dont know what the answer would be to this situation... short of a content full Expansion Box CoH2 or whatever...
The stuff that was discussed in the survey awhile back I felt would be game saving.
The whole moral compass thing with your toon starting out as nuetral... that sounded awesome! only thing is certain AT's would be ignored if you could be a Brute/Corruptor on Blue side.. So i am not sure how or if that would be possible...
One thing I think would be great is expanding on the epic archetypes. For Example...
Blue Side: Longbow with branches like the VEATs
Red Side: Nictus with the shape shifting that the PBs and WSs have...
KEEP the epics being opened by having a level 50 for the simple fact that if you dont have a lvl 50 toon then you havent experienced all this game has to offer..
Something needs to be done to make Mid-levels fun to play again... really needs some new content bad... thats alot of content to add though..
No one goes there anymore, it's too crowded...
"The potato goes in the FRONT."
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The way I read the PvP portion of the interview was that they discovered in testing that instead of a "Rock/Paper/Scissors" game, PvP was just "Rock/Scissors". Now the question remains, is the new system "Rock/Paper/Scissors", or just "Scissors/'Paper"?
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It is.
Try a necro/storm or a well built dark/cold.
Yeah, skill still matters, but those two builds are the new scissor/rock hybrids.
Melee is still lol.
This system is just worse in the sense that it dumbs down the skill level required in a team environment.
When I'm spiking on a therm and getting more kills than anyone else in my team.. yeah.. LOLroles.
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alittle too....unhonest really..he wonders how his dom does in pvp?..they been fotm for like the entire year*shrugs*
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Further proof how disconnected they are from PvP.
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Dude... doms required skill. That's the issue. If the fatman has to wonder about how his dom is gonna do, the fatman doens't know [censored] about his dom.
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I know i may be in the minority here but I am not egarly awaiting Mission Architect... I am sorely disappointed that is going to be the only feature of i14...
I was really hoping for something more... maybe i am just a little burnt out and that is making my view jaded, dont know... but I was at least hoping for some Power Proliferation at least... heck anything would do... AR for defenders or whatever...
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Think of it this way: What will the devs who are not involved with the Mission Architect be doing while others are working on I14? I'm betting that they'll be working on the stuff that'll be in I15 which has been hinted to be a high content issue.
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I thought issue 13 and then later 14 were said to be loaded with stuff that would blow our minds. Now its 15....
Eh My globals are indeed leaving by the dozens as well..
Alot of the whole PvP community on my server pretty much left.
I rarely PVP, but these changes to pvp are just stupid. This whole PVP nerf, reminds me of the NGE over at Star Wars Galaxies.
Bottom line, it rewards those who put in no effort and punishes those that have ..
Epic Fail 
Positron and castle need to look at history and see what happens to MMOs that chage core combat systems midstream. They always suffer more player loss than gain, and the intended result of thier changes are seldom realized.
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"Bottom line, it rewards those who put in no effort and punishes those that have .."
What effort would that be? Playing the game?
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"Bottom line, it rewards those who put in no effort and punishes those that have .."
What effort would that be? Playing the game?
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the effort would be time, influence/infamy, and study of game mechanics in order to come up with a solid build for pvp.
In this age of IO's, sets bonuses, etc., a player that has invested time and effort into making his/her toon good at pvp is punished by diminishing returns and other mechanics in this new pvp system. This is inversely a reward to those players that do not invest in their toon as they can now perform on par with those players that did put forth the effort.
Leader/Founder of Order Sixty-Six Guardian Server
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I rarely PVP, but these changes to pvp are just stupid. This whole PVP nerf, reminds me of the NGE over at Star Wars Galaxies.
Bottom line, it rewards those who put in no effort and punishes those that have ..
Epic Fail
Positron and castle need to look at history and see what happens to MMOs that chage core combat systems midstream. They always suffer more player loss than gain, and the intended result of thier changes are seldom realized.
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Well i was there for the NGE at SWG and this is absolutely nothin like that, hehe. Almost offends me to hear someone compare the two. I do like the PvP changes its the lack of story arcs and the general large story of the game not goin forward taht i dont like. Like there was suppose to be at least 1 zone enhancement in i13 i had thought and pretty sure it was mentioned a few times, but nothin. I13 then 114 and now i15 is suppose to blow us away with things we cant even imagine, im just waitin.
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alittle too....unhonest really..he wonders how his dom does in pvp?..they been fotm for like the entire year*shrugs*
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Further proof how disconnected they are from PvP.
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Yeah, pretty sad, huh?
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This depresses me. This game is dying. Posi and crew have lost touch with their most dedicated player base.
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Who are you talking about?
I've been around practically since launch, and I'm staying. As far as I can tell, Issue 13 is giving me nothing but good stuff, and I'm very much looking forward to the Mission Architect.
Granted, Issue 13 is pretty light on content, and it's a bit of a wait to Issue 14, but I'm still as addicted to the game as ever.
PvP sucked before. I am willing to try the new version. I guess the hardcore PvP crowd is going to have to grin and bear it...all 5 of you. 
I keed I keed 
Nice interview. Posi gave a nice summary of the new features and powersets coming to us in issue 13 and some of the reasons behind the design decisions were interesting.
The split of Mission Architect to I14 is something I can understand even though I keenly await it. I was quite surprised to learn it didn't have a "customise the boss" feature, so I'll happily wait until it does.
PvP is not something I'm qualified to comment on really. My only opinion is that it's a "sometimes food". Just not my thing really.
We'll all be so knee-deep in Shield Tankers and Pain Dominators before the holiday season, running new missions, that we'll wonder what people were dooming about.
Issue 13, bring it on! 
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I rarely PVP, but these changes to pvp are just stupid. This whole PVP nerf, reminds me of the NGE over at Star Wars Galaxies.
Bottom line, it rewards those who put in no effort and punishes those that have ..
Epic Fail
Positron and castle need to look at history and see what happens to MMOs that chage core combat systems midstream. They always suffer more player loss than gain, and the intended result of thier changes are seldom realized.
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Well i was there for the NGE at SWG and this is absolutely nothin like that, hehe. Almost offends me to hear someone compare the two. I do like the PvP changes its the lack of story arcs and the general large story of the game not goin forward taht i dont like. Like there was suppose to be at least 1 zone enhancement in i13 i had thought and pretty sure it was mentioned a few times, but nothin. I13 then 114 and now i15 is suppose to blow us away with things we cant even imagine, im just waitin.
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Same here. At least here the devs are attempting to balance things instead of dumping entire skill sets. Besides these pvp changes are leading to fixes in base raids and cathedral of pain(no its not a rumor, they did say as much). So there is definitely a bright future so far. If PvP becomes popular by the masses, maybe with these secret identities villains could infiltrate paragon city and vice versa. But right now the direction and baby steps they are taking isn't a rushed thing. I would like to see the other "comic book" MMO handle these issues.
I for one am excited about i14, I like the idea of creating an "live action" comic book in your fingertips. Plus the new merits system will be great in hopefully lowering the economy in the game to give some people a chance to get some sets.
I'm still giggling that:
1. Posi thought Doms were bad in i12.
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2. He thinks they'll be better under the proposed i13 systems.
Like, what?
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Matt Miller:There is no better indicator that power is TOO powerful than the fact that a higher than normal amount of characters take it.
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or is just needed, e.g. Stamina.
Looking forward to I13 and I14!
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Or, it just might be - that players are good at picking the "best option" among a group of power choices.
It could also be:
The power taken disproportionately in relation to others is the one that sucks the least, the one that looks the coolest, or in the case of a Pool Powers - maybe its the one that's the "best/non-garbage choice" (you have to take) in order to get the power you really want later on...
Seriously, the idea that because a power is extremely popular - is somehow a direct correlation to that power being "broken" (as in 'too good'), is a pretty big assumption.
Even if a power is taken 'all the time' - I don't see how that means it's "too powerful".
One could say that the others are "too weak" perhaps?
I'm looking at you Flurry, Jump Kick, Boxing & Kick!
And for that matter - how about most of the Presence & Medicine Pools, and lets not forget - Group Fly, Team Teleport, and Whirlwind.
Heck, the entire Concealment Pool is kinda sketchy these days (IMHO) = you get the idea...
EDIT: Aside from that comment - "one way we know powers are too good..."
It wasn't a bad article, was great either - and I'm really hoping there is more than the Mission Architect in I14 - like a bit more Power Proliferation - maybe something semi-straight forward somebody mentioned AR Defenders, or maybe something close to a long requested Powerset - like a variant of (MM Thugs') Pistols for Blasters/Corrupters maybe?
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It wasn't a bad article, was great either - and I'm really hoping there is more than the Mission Architect in I14 - like a bit more Power Proliferation - maybe something semi-straight forward somebody mentioned AR Defenders, or maybe something close to a long requested Powerset - like a variant of (MM Thugs') Pistols for Blasters/Corrupters maybe?
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To all those who've construed Posi's comment in the Boomtown article that the Mission Architect is going to be the only feature of I14, it has been made clear by GhostRaptor that the Mission Architect is the *main* feature of I14.
See here.
After all what do you think all the content writers and artists are going to be doing while the powers guys and the programmers are working on the Mission Architect?
And since the powers guys are going to be working on customizable bosses with a suite of customized powerset combos and AI scripts to make them work, they won't be able to work on Proliferation or new Powersets in I14.
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To all those who've construed Posi's comment in the Boomtown article that the Mission Architect is going to be the only feature of I14, it has been made clear by GhostRaptor that the Mission Architect is the *main* feature of I14.
See here.
After all what do you think all the content writers and artists are going to be doing while the powers guys and the programmers are working on the Mission Architect?
And since the powers guys are going to be working on customizable bosses with a suite of customized powerset combos and AI scripts to make them work, they won't be able to work on Proliferation or new Powersets in I14.
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I dont know how else to take what Posi said here....
Matt Miller: Mission Architect is a strong enough feature that it can, and should, stand on itÂ’s own for an issue. We are very excited to see what the players come up with!
what Ghost said doesnt seem to be what Posi said... at all....
No one goes there anymore, it's too crowded...
"The potato goes in the FRONT."
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I rarely PVP, but these changes to pvp are just stupid. This whole PVP nerf, reminds me of the NGE over at Star Wars Galaxies.
Bottom line, it rewards those who put in no effort and punishes those that have ..
Epic Fail
Positron and castle need to look at history and see what happens to MMOs that chage core combat systems midstream. They always suffer more player loss than gain, and the intended result of thier changes are seldom realized.
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Well i was there for the NGE at SWG and this is absolutely nothin like that, hehe. Almost offends me to hear someone compare the two. I do like the PvP changes its the lack of story arcs and the general large story of the game not goin forward taht i dont like. Like there was suppose to be at least 1 zone enhancement in i13 i had thought and pretty sure it was mentioned a few times, but nothin. I13 then 114 and now i15 is suppose to blow us away with things we cant even imagine, im just waitin.
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Funny, I was there for the NGE and it does remind me of it, only when compared to the pvp game. Look, I get what they are trying to do. I can also tell you I have heard the rumblings within my SG, and several of my core players are likely to leave because of these changes. I however have not heard any one in my SG, when asked, say they like the changes. These are they ways in which it reminds me of the NGE. I am only trying to draw a reference to another case where the core combat system was changed, and the NGE was my only experience. Thankfully these changes did not require them to change the GUI also
Leader/Founder of Order Sixty-Six Guardian Server
This depresses me. This game is dying. Posi and crew have lost touch with their most dedicated player base.
I am actually sad.
They just need to look at their sub numbers to see its true. Lowest playerbase number yet. My friends and other players leaving by the dozen and no new real content on the horizon till is 15.
This sucks
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