General Forums Merge!

FWIW, I agree with merging the two forums; it's not as if villains don't also use the general forum. Please save my list of broken or poorly designed missions in Sharkhead until the issues in it get addressed. Thanks!

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Sounds good to me. Right now there's no place to put a general topic that affects both sides.

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Oh? Then... who's purse IS it??

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I think merging the two sections will get more of the suggestions and discussions about CoV into the public square, so to speak.

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I'm worried that this is going to bring more harm than good. There are certain posters, making it a point to leave the CoV discussion alone, that I find repulsive.

However, I won't oppose a merge. Clutter in my villain-thread-viewing isn't that big a deal in the scheme of things, and this merge has to be done. (Also, merge the markets kthxbai.)

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FWIW, I agree with merging the two forums; it's not as if villains don't also use the general forum. Please save my list of broken or poorly designed missions in Sharkhead until the issues in it get addressed. Thanks!

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It's about time! I'm glad this merge is happening. I almost never wander into the Villains side so it'll be nice to see the extra conversation going on with City Life.

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I'm assuming City Life will be a new forum which will open containing only the 'saved' threads. This leads to a question: what happens to all the threads with redname posts in COH/COV General that were saved from forums purges? Are they going bye-bye?

Oh, and I'd like to ask that the Splasher sticky is *not* copied over. It has too many pages discussing old stuff that was already solved, so I'd prefer to start a new thread in the City Life forums when they open. I like fresh starts.

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I'm assuming City Life will be a new forum which will open containing only the 'saved' threads.

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Read Ex Libris's post. The General CoH forum is being turned into the City Life forum. Only threads from General - CoV need to be brought over. The threads in General - CoH won't be going anywhere -- including yours.

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I'm assuming City Life will be a new forum which will open containing only the 'saved' threads.

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Read Ex Libris's post. The General CoH forum is being turned into the City Life forum. Only threads from General - CoV need to be brought over.

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*smacks self*

I swear I read the announcement. My brain decided to forget the details between the reading and posting the question, which still applies: all the redname posts in COV general that have been saved from forum purges will be lost?

Edit: saved _from_ forum purges, not _by_ forum purges. I think I might need sleep.

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any thoughts on ordering the AT forums according to game, like the Euro boards?

I liked it when each group of ATs was together, unlike the current setup.

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Why purge the area completely? Why not just turn it into a locked archive that people can view and search but that can't be posted to or edited?

There is no ways in a few days all of the useful threads in that CoV General forums could be identified.

And no comments on my opinion regarding the fact that the Hero forum is being kept instead of a whole new forum being made and two old ones being archived.

Certainly doesn't make one feel like the red headed step child I mean it was certainly good enough for the big brother, we're use to the hand me downs.

Edit: I will say I think there needs to be one single forum don't get me wrong, but the tone of Ex's comment leaves a bit to be desired. This is especially true given many of us who came in with CoV and prefer CoV have felt very much unloved by the devs given the lack of content additions we've received since launch. And this is in comparison to what Heroes had in the same amount of issues after launch. We got one issue for CoV with content and that was it, everything else we've had to share with the heroes.

You know I'd really like some more Strike Forces to fit into all the gaps we have Villain side, and not just co-op stuff, sometimes you want to be villainous with your fellow bad guys and no stinkin' capes stickin' their noses in with their goody two shoes junk.

I mean really, more SFs.... pretty pretty please... Maybe a couple villain only hazard zones? Something, anything, throw me a bone Give people a REASON to want to play the villain side...

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Certainly doesn't make one feel like the red headed step child I mean it was certainly good enough for the big brother, we're use to the hand me downs.

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I suppose posts like this are what set my brain into the "City Life is going to be a new forum and the two Generals will be wiped" idea. COV forums regular are going to add the merge to the Big List Of Reasons Why The Devs Hate COV(tm).

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Just get the large sticks ready to beat people with when the inevitable stink is raised over it. '

Oh and bAss. That avatar STILL gives me nightmares.

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Victory!

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Certainly doesn't make one feel like the red headed step child I mean it was certainly good enough for the big brother, we're use to the hand me downs.

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I suppose posts like this are what set my brain into the "City Life is going to be a new forum and the two Generals will be wiped" idea. COV forums regular are going to add the merge to the Big List Of Reasons Why The Devs Hate COV(tm).

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Crankiness from lack of sleep aside, Ex needs to be a bit more careful in her wording was the point of my above tirade. But let me highlight what I'm saying and see if it makes sense.

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Starting next Wednesday October 3rd, 2007 we will be merging our two general discussion forums into one forum entitled "City Life" General Discussion where COH/COV game related discussions will take place.



This week we will be collecting any threads that should be moved over and kept from the current general forums

After doing tracking and receiving community feedback on this issue we feel this is the best way to ensure general topics which are appropriate for both groups get the attention they need.

We will be discussing this move on this topic located in the News, Announcement, & Discussion Forum.

If you have questions, comments, concerns or a link to a thread that should be moved please join us here for the discussion.

Regards,

Ex Libris

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Edits:
+ Removed: "We will be changing the name of the current COH General and closing the Villains General forum."
+ Removed: Villains from line following the line above.
+ Change: Added an S to the word forums in the sentence where the word villains was removed.

Take that line, one word and add an s and the tone of that is COMPLETELY different. There was no need to single out the villains group, or even to mention they were simply renaming the CoH forum. Doesn't need to be mentioned, don't add fuel to the already raging fire, and certainly don't rub salt in a wound. Ex and Lighthouse are suppose to set a tone and standard for everyone else, putting one group on the defensive while making another seem favored is only asking for trouble.

But meh, thats just me, I chalk it up to bad PR is all, happens, but you're looking at what is basically getting most people's feathers ruffled. Just leave names and groups out unless absolutely necessary.Its not a them or us situation so don't make it one.

Sure that makes no more sense then the other post, going to bed.

Edit: Clarifying what I meant above changed Ex's quote to how I feel it should have read and detailed edits below it.

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I don't care much either way, but wasn't this how it was originally and there was an uproar that CoV didn't have its own forum?

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Indeed. I remember when there was a lot of people asking for CuppaJo to split the General forum to CoH and CoV.

I believe part of the reason was that CoV had just come out, resulting in lots of posts regarding the New Shinies, and the CoH-only players complained that their posts were getting drowned out.

I also remember that Cuppa hung a Damocles over us, saying that CoV stuff had to go in the CoV forums, and if this did not turn out so, the forums were getting re-merged.

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Certainly doesn't make one feel like the red headed step child I mean it was certainly good enough for the big brother, we're use to the hand me downs.

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Oh good GOD it has started already.

I felt a little silly for calling it preemptively. I thought maybe.. MAYBE we could all be grown ups about it and see it isn't a big deal at all. Maybe it wouldn't happen.

"Glad" to see my prediction wasn't untrue.

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Just get the large sticks ready to beat people with when the inevitable stink is raised over it. '

Oh and bAss. That avatar STILL gives me nightmares.

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Victory!

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Where is Golden Girl anyway? Did she power post herself into infinity?

(One can only hope.. the winking smiley STILL haunts me)

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Good move. I recall asking Lighthouse this in the past as I'm sure many people did when CoV started getting little Dev comment and not as many posters as they used to.

Here's a thread that I think needs to stay, made by Candlestick.
Stop Making Me Fail Missions Due To Bad Design

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I also remember that Cuppa hung a Damocles over us, saying that CoV stuff had to go in the CoV forums, and if this did not turn out so, the forums were getting re-merged.

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So it's Ultimus' fault! Aha!

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About time we got these merged, I say.

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Oh, boy. I can see it now the first time someone complains about CoV, there are going to be 1500 people flaming, trolling and name calling. Woo Hoo!

Great move.

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Ex, a question about this. This was attempted before - combining the two general forums. It was re-split because readers felt it was difficult to determine what "side" something was about. Has this concern been addressed for this attempt?

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I don't recall it ever being tried. I know there was a time we didn't have a second one.

CoV general was created when there was a lot of traffic and a lot of learning curve. That's not the case anymore, and most discussions end up being redundant in some way.

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Oh, boy. I can see it now the first time someone complains about CoV, there are going to be 1500 people flaming, trolling and name calling. Woo Hoo!

Great move.

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Make a legitimate statement about problems shouldn't elicit any more problems than normal.

It's when the complaint is peppered with inflammatory comments and allegations that the reasons behind the problem is some kind of CoV hatred conspiracy, that people get irked. That would happen anywhere on these forums, not just in CoH General.

Keep it simple, don't talk like tinfoil hat people.

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Take that line, one word and add an s and the tone of that is COMPLETELY different. There was no need to single out the villains group, or even to mention they were simply renaming the CoH forum. Doesn't need to be mentioned, don't add fuel to the already raging fire, and certainly don't rub salt in a wound. Ex and Lighthouse are suppose to set a tone and standard for everyone else, putting one group on the defensive while making another seem favored is only asking for trouble.

But meh, thats just me, I chalk it up to bad PR is all, happens, but you're looking at what is basically getting most people's feathers ruffled. Just leave names and groups out unless absolutely necessary.Its not a them or us situation so don't make it one.

Sure that makes no more sense then the other post, going to bed.

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I guess I don't see what the problem is. What does adding an S to forum have to do with anything? There was one CoV General Forum. It was simply stated that the forum for CoV general was being removed and that instead there will be one big happy general forum. I really can't see: 1) why it would be seen as singling out Villains, or 2) how else it should have been worded, since one forum involved is named with Heroes and the other named with Villains. How else do you tell everyone that they are merging them without specifying which ones they are talking about?

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Oh, boy. I can see it now the first time someone complains about CoV, there are going to be 1500 people flaming, trolling and name calling. Woo Hoo!

Great move.

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Make a legitimate statement about problems shouldn't elicit any more problems than normal.

It's when the complaint is peppered with inflammatory comments and allegations that the reasons behind the problem is some kind of CoV hatred conspiracy, that people get irked. That would happen anywhere on these forums, not just in CoH General.

Keep it simple, don't talk like tinfoil hat people.

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Come on Lemur. You darn well what the villain forum turns into without provocation. No need to tinfoil hat people when it is done for you because people have a negative opinion of things red side. I already know what will happen when Bad_Influence posts anything.

It will not take anything controversial for it to start. I just pray that the selective moderation stops and that people get reprimanded for the personal attacks that run rampant in the CoV forum with this merge.

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