Possible "New" Powerset preview......
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Posted on: 2007-02-22 10:03 in Archetypes and Powers General Discussion
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bah devs too good for /screenshot?
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I would guess they like being able to record the whole thing, then go back and review frame by frame to find the one they like best.
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Bulls eye. If you're just posing or showing the landscape, simply hitting the screenshot key does fine. But if you want action shots like this or this then you've got to use demos or hope to get really lucky.
I guess that peg-arm shot the OP found could be some form of the long arms bug, but it doesn't really look like it to me. Maybe this is a bug that hasn't gone live yet?
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To buck the trend, I like the look of Spines as is. Not all powers should be clean-looking.
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Agreed. I think it's one of the best looking powersets in the game and partially for that reason. I love my Spines Scrapper.
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To buck the trend, I like the look of Spines as is. Not all powers should be clean-looking.
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Agreed. I think it's one of the best looking powersets in the game and partially for that reason. I love my Spines Scrapper.
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Okay i can see not being clean looking, but do you object to the idea of spines being, oh i don't know, pointy? Thorny Assault isn't all that clean looking, but damn if it doesn't look spinier than spines. (Spines usually being longer and thinner than thorns.)
i'm still hoping that someday weapons customization will be added, so that players can choose between different sorts of weapon models, which spines would be a logical subtype to have. We could have the current ingrown-toenail-grown-out-of-control spines, the Thorny Assault-like spines and even Silver Mantis-like spines. 
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Ill bet Castle is wishing he had never said anything on this post at all.
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Not at all!
Samurai: It was a player, not an NPC. I know, since I was playing him! He is a Spines/Regen scrapper.
The power: What you are seeing is actually a graphics bug created by the demo-record/playback process we use to take screenshots.
And now you know!
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Hah. Who called that?
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The point I would like the Devs to get is: how bad we all want spines to get a new look. 
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Zyph
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Sorry, but "we all" don't want Spines changed. "We all" want it left just the way it is.
In my opinion Spines are one of the best looking sets in the game and the way it looks was the main reason for me picking it in the first place.
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To buck the trend, I like the look of Spines as is. Not all powers should be clean-looking.
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Agreed. I think it's one of the best looking powersets in the game and partially for that reason. I love my Spines Scrapper.
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Okay i can see not being clean looking, but do you object to the idea of spines being, oh i don't know, pointy? Thorny Assault isn't all that clean looking, but damn if it doesn't look spinier than spines. (Spines usually being longer and thinner than thorns.)
i'm still hoping that someday weapons customization will be added, so that players can choose between different sorts of weapon models, which spines would be a logical subtype to have. We could have the current ingrown-toenail-grown-out-of-control spines, the Thorny Assault-like spines and even Silver Mantis-like spines.
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That's a pipe dream, Positron has clearly stated that weapon customization is out of the picture. So unless they change the look of spines, spines will be the spines as they are now.
And on that note, I like spines as it is now.
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The point I would like the Devs to get is: how bad we all want spines to get a new look.
Later,
Zyph
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Sorry, but "we all" don't want Spines changed. "We all" want it left just the way it is.
In my opinion Spines are one of the best looking sets in the game and the way it looks was the main reason for me picking it in the first place.
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How about this then. ALOT of us would like to see it changed.
Later,
Zyph
Edit: Sorry mine was by far more snarky. Also I would like to be more clear on what I mean by "changed." Compare the skin of thorns to that of spines. It is a cleaner looking power. What I really think needs to be done is a reskin of spines. If it is meant to look like bones fine. Just make it look better. This has been done with many powers already. Just a clean up of the orginal design. Thorn melee is just a much better looking power (to me). Also When I first made my spines scrapper the spine from the hand was always out, I want that back.
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Hmmmmm. Bug in demo record not showing spines...
Wonder if that bug can be turned into a feature at some point. 
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I think I'd roll a spines scrapper if it was. looks so much cooler.
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I hope they don't. I am so sick and tired of seeing spines scrappers everywhere, esp in pvp zones.
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Ill bet Castle is wishing he had never said anything on this post at all.
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Not at all!
Samurai: It was a player, not an NPC. I know, since I was playing him! He is a Spines/Regen scrapper.
The power: What you are seeing is actually a graphics bug created by the demo-record/playback process we use to take screenshots.
And now you know!
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See? I told you all it was a Spines scrapper.
EDIT: And before anyone asks, I said so right here.
Alright so, power customization is out've the picture. Green lightning, blue fire, etc (just too hard to do).
Where they stated previously that WEAPON customization (swords, katanas, spines, things that only attach to your body) would be much much easier to do.
I suppose I can live without the whole power coloring thing, but seeing everyone with the same swords, axes, and spines sticking out've their bodies is getting pretty stale.
And it's pretty appearent in this thread that it's something people really want.
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Alright so, power customization is out've the picture. Green lightning, blue fire, etc (just too hard to do).
Where they stated previously that WEAPON customization (swords, katanas, spines, things that only attach to your body) would be much much easier to do.
I suppose I can live without the whole power coloring thing, but seeing everyone with the same swords, axes, and spines sticking out've their bodies is getting pretty stale.
And it's pretty appearent in this thread that it's something people really want.
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I think most if not all of us would be happy if there was only one more issue this year IF that issue included power custamisation. Well, I know I would be any way. But as they have said it is not comming any time soon we are all kicking a dead horse here.
Later,
Zyph
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Good lord, why would you be coy/smug/whatever over "our processes suck and you're seeing a glitch"?
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Alright so, power customization is out've the picture. Green lightning, blue fire, etc (just too hard to do).
Where they stated previously that WEAPON customization (swords, katanas, spines, things that only attach to your body) would be much much easier to do.
I suppose I can live without the whole power coloring thing, but seeing everyone with the same swords, axes, and spines sticking out've their bodies is getting pretty stale.
And it's pretty appearent in this thread that it's something people really want.
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I think most if not all of us would be happy if there was only one more issue this year IF that issue included power custamisation. Well, I know I would be any way. But as they have said it is not comming any time soon we are all kicking a dead horse here.
Later,
Zyph
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Please do not start this argument again. Many of us would not be happy with only one issue for power customization, as was stated in that garguation thread about it. Many of you would, and a good many would not, I am not sure if it is even or not, but I know there are tons on each side. It's not going to happen anytime soon, so please let this horse stay dead.
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Alright so, power customization is out've the picture. Green lightning, blue fire, etc (just too hard to do).
Where they stated previously that WEAPON customization (swords, katanas, spines, things that only attach to your body) would be much much easier to do.
I suppose I can live without the whole power coloring thing, but seeing everyone with the same swords, axes, and spines sticking out've their bodies is getting pretty stale.
And it's pretty appearent in this thread that it's something people really want.
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I think most if not all of us would be happy if there was only one more issue this year IF that issue included power custamisation. Well, I know I would be any way. But as they have said it is not comming any time soon we are all kicking a dead horse here.
Later,
Zyph
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Please do not start this argument again. Many of us would not be happy with only one issue for power customization, as was stated in that garguation thread about it. Many of you would, and a good many would not, I am not sure if it is even or not, but I know there are tons on each side. It's not going to happen anytime soon, so please let this horse stay dead.
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Truly the first time I have ever posted on it. I am sure it will not stay dead tho. There are just too many people who love the game, but hate the way their powers look. (example) BS is one of the ones I would to play, but the sword looks so plain. I agree I doubt it will happen any time soon, if ever, but we should keep reminding them that we want. The less we push for power cusomasation the easier it is for them to push it under the rug. Here I have seen it since I1 the squeeky wheel gets the grease. 
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Zyph
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Sorry but anyone looking for customization or even an I9...
Marvel MMO+Microsoft Vista Endorsement=No new issue that has any real worth in new content. They just don't have the time and the money Microsoft is paying them is just too good.
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Sorry but anyone looking for customization or even an I9...
Marvel MMO+Microsoft Vista Endorsement=No new issue that has any real worth in new content. They just don't have the time and the money Microsoft is paying them is just too good.
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I don't buy this. Don't you think crafting is a pretty big dreal to be adding to the game? I doubt if the coding has been in place for a few issues amd it just needed to be "switched" on. I may have this wrong.. but doesnt MuO have a totally different set of devs? Im thinking just the same publisher or whatever it is.
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Sorry but anyone looking for customization or even an I9...
Marvel MMO+Microsoft Vista Endorsement=No new issue that has any real worth in new content. They just don't have the time and the money Microsoft is paying them is just too good.
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Besides, its not like the same people who are working on CoX are working on Marvel MMO, its not the way it works. It is true that there are positions (Statesman) who oversee multiple projects, but Positron (for example) only works on CoX.
Its like any other company. If I work as a cashier at a grocery store, I'm not going to be moving to the deli department just because it just opened (I know, bad example, but its true) both are important, and both make money.
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Why /duel is a bad idea
Remember when the devs said their goal was to give the players what they want? We want power custamasation. They need to realize that to meet that goal of giving the players what they want. Now granted there are other things we want too. Like new powers, missions, Evil epic ATs, and the list goes on.
What needs to be done is weigh those things against the players most desired thing. This I feel could be done thru a pole. I know that powercustamasation for me would be LIKE getting new powers.
for me custamasation is at the top of the list, and I am sure it is for many others. the visual aspect of the game is what seeprates a MMO from a MUD. Because all of the rest can be simulated thru a MUD or a table top game/PnP game. I play this for the social aspect, and because it looks cool. I am just asking we be able to make it look cooler.
Later,
Zyph
P.S. I think this is now my 3rd power custamsation post.
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Sorry but anyone looking for customization or even an I9...
Marvel MMO+Microsoft Vista Endorsement=No new issue that has any real worth in new content. They just don't have the time and the money Microsoft is paying them is just too good.
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From warcry's "A view from Atlas Park"
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As I also said above, CoH/V has been promised three issues across 2007 - a promise made by both Positron and Statesman. Now, I don't use the word "promise" lightly, but if Cryptic doesn't think they can get three issues out in 2007, they should flap their lips and say so. Better to say two and deliver three than the other way around. They said three, so I'll expect three, pending any major problems that may occur. Again, if there are problems (and there may be) Cryptic will be better off telling the community sooner rather than later about them and revising that number down to two (or one, if worst comes to worst).
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And here's the link to the entire article.
And something else interesting happening on Cryptics Job Page
With Vista already out and Cryptic recruiting an entire team of programmers and artists and even another web developer, do you think they would even think about making a promise like that if they couldn't deliver. I think they have every intention of delivering on that promise.
I think this paranoia surrounding MUO destroying CoH is absurd. They are two different teams people. The games are probably not as similar as you would think either. From the way it sounds in MUO you will play a marvel character. Where as here we make our own hero. CoX and MUO are funded by two different companies, so the money for each is coming for different places. I am sure if Bob can not get a piece of art right he may walk over to Jays cube and say Hey dude I need some help. But I doubt Jack goes and says Jay you are going to the marvel div now.
Those who have gone from CoX to MUO more than likely chose to go. That is how it worked in every company I have worked for. You apply for a transfer to a new dept. just as if you were applying for a new job. And a few of the Devs who went there or to other Departments in Cryptic probably did it to get away from us. Think about how badly Geko was treated at times. Would you choose to stay around that?
I see us getting two to three issues this year, the only question I have is will they be full of the things we want or what they think we want. This leads me to think they should poll us a lot more on what we would like to see in the game. After all the motto is Give them what they want.
Later,
Zyph
P.S. My vote is still for dual daggers. But I am a theme and concept person not a mechanics person.
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Thanks for clearing that up, no telling where the speculation would have taken us.
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The point I would like the Devs to get is: how bad we all want spines to get a new look.
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Seconded.
I don't need a new powerset, just make Spines bearable to look at, would have the same effect for me, one more usable set.
I really like the concept behind it, i even tried it, for all of six levels, then the hideous look made me delete the char.
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You have a melee character tha has ranged attacks with none of the wekaness of the Blaster AT.
I'd say the spines look are one of the "negative" things arout the set. So let's redo their look and take away the ranged attack, would that be better?
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My guess is a change to the Spines animations, to try and encourage more people to use the set.
Edit: Our samurai friend again. Note the widow next to him.
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Well, they could just make the pines more pointy and sharp and less like giant bananas.
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The point I would like the Devs to get is: how bad we all want spines to get a new look.
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Seconded.
I don't need a new powerset, just make Spines bearable to look at, would have the same effect for me, one more usable set.
I really like the concept behind it, i even tried it, for all of six levels, then the hideous look made me delete the char.
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You have a melee character tha has ranged attacks with none of the wekaness of the Blaster AT.
I'd say the spines look are one of the "negative" things arout the set. So let's redo their look and take away the ranged attack, would that be better?
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This never gets old... or does it? Are daggers melee or ranged? How about batons/billy clubs? Yes the character V throws daggers at about the same range as spines Impale, and Dare Devil and Night Wing both throw battons/billy clubs at a far, far greater range than spines. Does that make these three characters blasters? No. All three are clear examples of comic scrappers with ranged attack.
Later,
Zyph
And silly me I left out the big one Batman...
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Odd how the one he (MAY) have liked best is the one with OUT the crappy looking body spines...
Later,
Zyph
P.S. A few beers into Friday night now
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