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so heres a question, did u guys ever think of making pvp more than just an option? put some contacts for story arc missions there, so everybody has to go in sometime, after all, heros n villans should have a lil more actual interaction than basic "jump in n kill em". make the zones(pvp) a place u need to go, instead of a place u want to go, like the other zones. just a thought
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Nah... making it necessary for people to PvP is a bad idea.
Here you come with a stupid name like Fixer - brutalkillz_
Forcing pvp is probably not that wise. However, introducing more adaptive npc's could help usher people into a more pvp style of play.
They already started with nightwidows using powerful -perception. Bane spiders with their "AS" power. Succubus using confuse. These kind of things force the pve'er to think beyond tank herd, we nuke.
Take it further by introducing *some* mobs that react according to imput. Held.... it pops a bf. Acc debuffed.... it pops a yellow. Give it a limited amount of these "npc inspirations" of course. Make a few npc's specifically target "support" like pvp'ers do, so they learn to evade and support. Then maybe they won't wonder why they get AS'd ever 5 seconds while they stand in the middle of the street casting RA 
Mainly pvp needs dev attention though. Yes fixes are absolutely needed and paramount, but even with the broken system dev sponsored events draw tons of players. Red names can advertise pvp in this game far better than even the most determined group of players ever could.....
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Forcing pvp is probably not that wise. However, introducing more adaptive npc's could help usher people into a more pvp style of play.
They already started with nightwidows using powerful -perception. Bane spiders with their "AS" power. Succubus using confuse. These kind of things force the pve'er to think beyond tank herd, we nuke.
Take it further by introducing *some* mobs that react according to imput. Held.... it pops a bf. Acc debuffed.... it pops a yellow. Give it a limited amount of these "npc inspirations" of course. Make a few npc's specifically target "support" like pvp'ers do, so they learn to evade and support. Then maybe they won't wonder why they get AS'd ever 5 seconds while they stand in the middle of the street casting RA
Mainly pvp needs dev attention though. Yes fixes are absolutely needed and paramount, but even with the broken system dev sponsored events draw tons of players. Red names can advertise pvp in this game far better than even the most determined group of players ever could.....
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They forced me to PvE. I say get em back!
*YAAAAA 
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This would be forced PvP.
Why would you do this?
To not only lure "non PvP'lers" into the zones (like it is today with added xp, temp powers, badges etc.) but even _force_ people who do not like PvP to encounter it?
Please keep PvP to the people who are willing to PvP.
Actually I even do not like the idea of "baiting non-PvP" people into the zones, but at least that is the choice of the individual player.
So: I say "No" to your idea.
PvP is and should always be only an option.
If you want it other way, choose another game. Shadowbane comes to mind.
Virtue: Alter Mann Controller Ill/Rad/Psi, Eisstahl Tanker Ice/Ice/Arctic
Justice: Lord Proton Brute EM/Elec/SM, ADAM-3 Mastermind Robot/FF/Charge
Liberty: Captain Transylvania Tanker Dark/Dark/SM
You were forced to PvE???
But... You do not need to PvE. Skip Outbreak and go directly to the arena. And then Have fun.
Hm. Ok. The run to the arena counts as PvE. But thats like the PvP contacts you need to visit while pursuing PvE missions.
Virtue: Alter Mann Controller Ill/Rad/Psi, Eisstahl Tanker Ice/Ice/Arctic
Justice: Lord Proton Brute EM/Elec/SM, ADAM-3 Mastermind Robot/FF/Charge
Liberty: Captain Transylvania Tanker Dark/Dark/SM
No, but there are games were you don't need to PvE grind to compete competitively in PvP
ur so wit ur lawl lvl 1 pvp lawl
jesus looks down you...
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anywho: forcing PvP isn't right, and PvE isn't that bad that I think most people care about the grind, the thread isn't about that either so stuf
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No, but there are games were you don't need to PvE grind to compete competitively in PvP
ur so wit ur lawl lvl 1 pvp lawl
jesus looks down you...
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anywho: forcing PvP isn't right, and PvE isn't that bad that I think most people care about the grind, the thread isn't about that either so stuf
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Yeah. Keep. PVP. Optional.
The one thing you don't want is it to be forced on peeps. Heh, you think you hear anti-pvpers rant now, imagine if they were forced to pvp. 
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for those of you interested in Arena PvP, i got this yesterday from Lighthouse regarding the subject.
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Thank you for taking the time to write me. The Arenas have been a topic of some conversation here, given the additional spotlight they will be getting under Issue 8 with the new terminals to access them from Pocket D. Hopefully that will lead to some more action on what I know has been a long standing issue.
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I think the arena is one of those things if they got working properly will turn more players on to PvP in general. Im rooting for them hopefully take some of that action.. i mean the bugs have been around since i4 so im glad its atleast a topic of conversation. Thanks again LH for the response~!
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Thank you for taking the time to write me. The Arenas have been a topic of some conversation here, given the additional spotlight they will be getting under Issue 8 with the new terminals to access them from Pocket D. Hopefully that will lead to some more action on what I know has been a long standing issue.
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O_O
Woo!
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for those of you interested in Arena PvP, i got this yesterday from Lighthouse regarding the subject.
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Thank you for taking the time to write me. The Arenas have been a topic of some conversation here, given the additional spotlight they will be getting under Issue 8 with the new terminals to access them from Pocket D. Hopefully that will lead to some more action on what I know has been a long standing issue.
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I think the arena is one of those things if they got working properly will turn more players on to PvP in general. Im rooting for them hopefully take some of that action.. i mean the bugs have been around since i4 so im glad its atleast a topic of conversation. Thanks again LH for the response~!
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Damn good to hear. I would suggest going to pocket d when the arenas terminals go live there and telling people to "please /bug any bugs you find while using the arena." At least for the first 2 weeks that the terminals are live they will get optimal use. If people are encouraged to /bug any bugs this will probably be when the DEVs get the most bug reports to look at.
Blazara Aura LVL 50 Fire/Psi Dom (with 125% recharge)
Flameboxer Aura LVL 50 SS/Fire Brute
Ice 'Em Aura LVL 50 Ice Tank
Darq Widow Fortune LVL 50 Fortunata (200% rech/Night Widow 192.5% rech)--thanks issue 19!
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for those of you interested in Arena PvP, i got this yesterday from Lighthouse regarding the subject.
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Thank you for taking the time to write me. The Arenas have been a topic of some conversation here, given the additional spotlight they will be getting under Issue 8 with the new terminals to access them from Pocket D. Hopefully that will lead to some more action on what I know has been a long standing issue.
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I think the arena is one of those things if they got working properly will turn more players on to PvP in general. Im rooting for them hopefully take some of that action.. i mean the bugs have been around since i4 so im glad its atleast a topic of conversation. Thanks again LH for the response~!
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Damn good to hear. I would suggest going to pocket d when the arenas terminals go live there and telling people to "please /bug any bugs you find while using the arena." At least for the first 2 weeks that the terminals are live they will get optimal use. If people are encouraged to /bug any bugs this will probably be when the DEVs get the most bug reports to look at.
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hey thats a great idea, ill make sure to pass the word along to the players of Guardian.
Actually, that IS a good idea.
Here you come with a stupid name like Fixer - brutalkillz_
The pocket D arena terminals aren't going to do jack for this, and I don't know why the devs think they would help at all. If super joe schmoe goes to one of them to use it, he's still going to encounter the same thing we get at the arenas. He's going to see about 25 broken matches, no player set up matches, join one, and let the time on it keep resetting because it's broken.
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The pocket D arena terminals aren't going to do jack for this, and I don't know why the devs think they would help at all. If super joe schmoe goes to one of them to use it, he's still going to encounter the same thing we get at the arenas. He's going to see about 25 broken matches, no player set up matches, join one, and let the time on it keep resetting because it's broken.
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Which is why I suggested some of us vets go there and tell those who express their frustration in pocket D broadcast, to please petition any bugs they find. It would be the best way to help push it further into DEV attention. And now we know at LEAST Lighthouse will read them.
Better than just throwing up our hands and giving up.
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Ice 'Em Aura LVL 50 Ice Tank
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Maybe we can get that crappy "fight in pocket d" arena about 65 times before we get into an actually decent arena to play in only for it to crash - I'll bug that.
PD arena vs. a Rad or Cold = GG.
Yeah when that happens it's a good time to go afk and get a drink.
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You were forced to PvE???
But... You do not need to PvE. Skip Outbreak and go directly to the arena. And then Have fun.
Hm. Ok. The run to the arena counts as PvE. But thats like the PvP contacts you need to visit while pursuing PvE missions.
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Go home. I dont like that in my food.
That would be kinda cool. Form an SG/VG sorta like the Taxibots and sit around in Pocket D answering questions about the Arenas. Make the SG outfit look like a referee's uniform. That'll give the PvP community a good rep with the rest of the Co* community if we keep it civil and friendly.
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That would be kinda cool. Form an SG/VG sorta like the Taxibots and sit around in Pocket D answering questions about the Arenas. Make the SG outfit look like a referee's uniform. That'll give the PvP community a good rep with the rest of the Co* community if we keep it civil and friendly.
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that's an even better idea than mine! hmmm, I smell a themed instuctional PVP sg idea forming.
Blazara Aura LVL 50 Fire/Psi Dom (with 125% recharge)
Flameboxer Aura LVL 50 SS/Fire Brute
Ice 'Em Aura LVL 50 Ice Tank
Darq Widow Fortune LVL 50 Fortunata (200% rech/Night Widow 192.5% rech)--thanks issue 19!
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That'll give the PvP community a good rep with the rest of the Co* community if we keep it civil and friendly.
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Yes. IT WOULD.
lol
I have a couple of empty character slots on every server, we need someone to setup a global channel for the Refs, and need to pick a name for the arena Referees. Should we start a new thread for it?
Yeah. tis a good idea indeed.
Here you come with a stupid name like Fixer - brutalkillz_
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so heres a question, did u guys ever think of making pvp more than just an option? put some contacts for story arc missions there, so everybody has to go in sometime, after all, heros n villans should have a lil more actual interaction than basic "jump in n kill em". make the zones(pvp) a place u need to go, instead of a place u want to go, like the other zones. just a thought
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The thing about that:
PvEers already cry when something gets changed because of PvP. If you change anything about their precious PvE game because of PvP, even indirectly, the freak out and say PvP is crap and a waste of time/energy by the devs and is ruining their game. Now, you want to FORCE them to PvP? Sounds more like you want PvEers to flood the forums, complaining about how they're getting owned because their build is built around concept and they can't kill anyone because of it.
While I'd love to have more people to kill/team up with a lot of the time, I also don't want to hear everyone whine like little girls because my team beat their team.