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Question: What's the big deal with trash talking? Players have a perfectly simple solution if they don't like what someone is saying - /ignore [playername].
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...or other UA violating actions. That IS harassment and can be actioned against by the GMs.
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That's right! Stop violating me!!! 
PS: Triumph FTW!!! *jumps out the window* Yahhhhhhhhhh!!!!
*hits pavement*
*gets up* Whew, thank God for Regen.
*limps back to Triumph server*
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That's funny. 
"I never said thank you." - Lt. Gordon
"And you'll never have to." - the Dark Knight
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IDK if this was brought up because i dont feel like reading the whole entire thread, but i acctually thought about it when i just made my post, here it is:
Cuppa, is someone in a PvP zone aloud to Teleport you, hold you, immobilize you, or in any way do something to you that you cant control INTO a PvE mob? Does that count and is acceptable? Because that has happened to me 1000+ times and i HATE getting debt.
Now your probably going to say that this is a PvP zone and it has risks and i understand that. But then why are PvE's in a PvP zone? I can understand for Sirens Call that you need them in there and the meteor guys in BB and the guys in the "web" for WB.
But can a player do that to ya?
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So instead of joining right in, I drag my toggle (darkest night) herding up say a few spawns of mobs, and drag them over the battle, hoping to cause a big ruckus, get a few people to drop below 50% hp, and bam SCOURGE!...
Got a tell from a guy afterward saying that I griefed them.
Sure a few guys got killed by NPC damage so they got debt, but it is a valid tactic yes?
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The OFFICIAL response, from Statesman himself (please note the red), was:
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Actually, it's a valid tactic the way you describe it.
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You are also talking about someone that used their GM rights in CoH beta to monster grief a group just because they griefed him. Mage Storm was 100% correct in this thread earlier. Just because you can do something doesn't make it right, Samus.
"I never said thank you." - Lt. Gordon
"And you'll never have to." - the Dark Knight
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Just to make things clear here -
If someone attacks you in a PvP zone and you are having an RP event (like FC) that is NOT harassment.
If you are in a PvP zone you can attack another player repeatedly.
However - you cannot trash talk someone using vulgar words, racial slurs, sexual slurs or other UA violating actions. That IS harassment and can be actioned against by the GMs.
You could also be actioned for exploiting in a PvP zone - for example - by hanging out as a villain in a hero hospital to gank heroes as they respawn. This is not as designed and may be actioned.
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ok this actually happened to me once and I wanna be sure if it's not Harassment, I personally dont think it is based on what you said about attacking as well. I was on my ill/emp troller healing random people. same thing as attacking I guess in essense but negitive dmg 
I heal. but was "inerrupting" their FC as well so some of them supposedly "asked" me not to heal them and they said cause I was asked to stop its harassment. but I would assume same principle you cant ask not to be killed. so am I free to heal who I want in the PvP zone? or no?
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Just to make things clear here -
If someone attacks you in a PvP zone and you are having an RP event (like FC) that is NOT harassment.
If you are in a PvP zone you can attack another player repeatedly.
However - you cannot trash talk someone using vulgar words, racial slurs, sexual slurs or other UA violating actions. That IS harassment and can be actioned against by the GMs.
You could also be actioned for exploiting in a PvP zone - for example - by hanging out as a villain in a hero hospital to gank heroes as they respawn. This is not as designed and may be actioned.
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Well I guess i've been told.
Obviously Red names make the rules not I.
Therefor official ruling "Not harassment"
However, I think this is entirely garbage. and it clearly a contridiction to the NC Soft rules and regs.
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Note that she said nothing about giving debt.
Perhaps the Devs think it's okay to give debt? To my knowledge it is not.
Since CK has given me debt repeatedly, I really have little time for him and will avoid him whenever possible.
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<.< first appolagies to the person I'm responding to, this doesn't have anything to do with your post.
>.< I though I was done here, but several ppl who can't be bothered to read the whole thing have to send me pms about my personal gaming habits, and others posting above similar thoughts.
O.O I AM NOT A GREIFER, I'M NOT EVEN A PvPer. I dont go around tping ppl into mobs, I don't even have a charecter with tp foe! As I said multiple times, I would run someone into a mob if they where harrasing me.. thats HARRASSING ME!! as in, I'm the one who's suffering from them not leaving me alone. This is a tactic for when running doesn't work, when asking them to go away doesn't either.
In future pls read the stupid paragraph before you start telling everyone how awful I am >.< (I'll edit this spelling later, I'm to upset over a couple of you and how your behaving)
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"Tired of getting ganked in Siren's Call?
Too lazy to set up arena matches yourself?
You're in luck! Tonight is Champion's Arena night!
What does this entail you ask? This is an event where level 47-50 heroes and lvl 38-40 villains pit their skills against eachother in 10minute team matches.
The arena is a debt-less, controlled environment in which griefers and gankers will be unable to reach you during your match.
We promise hosting of non-stop matches into the wee hours of the morning. All you need to do is show up."
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IDK if this was brought up because i dont feel like reading the whole entire thread, but i acctually thought about it when i just made my post, here it is:
Cuppa, is someone in a PvP zone aloud to Teleport you, hold you, immobilize you, or in any way do something to you that you cant control INTO a PvE mob? Does that count and is acceptable? Because that has happened to me 1000+ times and i HATE getting debt.
Now your probably going to say that this is a PvP zone and it has risks and i understand that. But then why are PvE's in a PvP zone? I can understand for Sirens Call that you need them in there and the meteor guys in BB and the guys in the "web" for WB.
But can a player do that to ya?
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During CoV beta, a player asked:
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So instead of joining right in, I drag my toggle (darkest night) herding up say a few spawns of mobs, and drag them over the battle, hoping to cause a big ruckus, get a few people to drop below 50% hp, and bam SCOURGE!...
Got a tell from a guy afterward saying that I griefed them.
Sure a few guys got killed by NPC damage so they got debt, but it is a valid tactic yes?
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The OFFICIAL response, from Statesman himself (please note the red), was:
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Actually, it's a valid tactic the way you describe it.
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You are also talking about someone that used their GM rights in CoH beta to monster grief a group just because they griefed him. Mage Storm was 100% correct in this thread earlier. Just because you can do something doesn't make it right, Samus.
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"Right" is a subjective term. What might be "right" to you, may not be "right" in my opinion. When it comes to a online gaming, "right" is irrelevant, only what is and is not allowable.
If I go to Warburg, and all I want to do is launch the missile, I have no desire to engage any other players, is it "right" for someone to attack me anyways?
If I go to Bloody Bay, and all I want to do is collect the meteor shards, is it "right" for another player to attack me?
If I go to Siren's Call, and only want to engage mobs in Hot Spot battles, and never attack another player, is it "right" to be attacked by one?
The answer to all of the above questions is contained in Cuppa's earlier post.
Thing is, "right" is a matter of personal interpretation. I don't think it's "right", for example, for people to be named things like "Chicken McNuggets", "FattyBlasterBoi" or "IRHeeler" in game. I don't think it's "right" for 8 different people to spam broadcast that they are all LFT when they could just join up and form a team themselves. There are many things which we each might individually consider to not be "right"... but none of that matters.
What DOES matter is if it is "allowed". The devs have stated that attacking someone, who is in a PVP zone, even if they don't WANT to be attacked, is allowed. Even if they are claiming exemption because they are RPing. Even if they are fighting a group of mobs. The devs have also stated that getting mobs to do your dirty work for you, be it bringing the mobs to you, or even bringing you to the mobs (like TPing you, or pulling you), is allowed.
If you do not want other players to have the opportunity to be able to cause you to die, regardless of HOW they cause it, then your only option is to stay out of the PVP zones, it's really that simple.
Ugh...this blew faster than I thought LoL. Quick question...would I get ganked if I took my prior mentioned Grav/Nrg Dom and Intangibled (I can't remember the name of the AoE Power off hand) half the FC roof? (Only about half, cause I couldn't hit the villains with it LOL) I mean, there's no debt, it wears off, and nobody dies LoL.
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IDK if this was brought up because i dont feel like reading the whole entire thread, but i acctually thought about it when i just made my post, here it is:
Cuppa, is someone in a PvP zone aloud to Teleport you, hold you, immobilize you, or in any way do something to you that you cant control INTO a PvE mob? Does that count and is acceptable? Because that has happened to me 1000+ times and i HATE getting debt.
Now your probably going to say that this is a PvP zone and it has risks and i understand that. But then why are PvE's in a PvP zone? I can understand for Sirens Call that you need them in there and the meteor guys in BB and the guys in the "web" for WB.
But can a player do that to ya?
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During CoV beta, a player asked:
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So instead of joining right in, I drag my toggle (darkest night) herding up say a few spawns of mobs, and drag them over the battle, hoping to cause a big ruckus, get a few people to drop below 50% hp, and bam SCOURGE!...
Got a tell from a guy afterward saying that I griefed them.
Sure a few guys got killed by NPC damage so they got debt, but it is a valid tactic yes?
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The OFFICIAL response, from Statesman himself (please note the red), was:
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Actually, it's a valid tactic the way you describe it.
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theres something different there:
That guy tped foes TO the player, we are talking about the player TO the foes...
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still the same end result though nether
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Ugh...this blew faster than I thought LoL. Quick question...would I get ganked if I took my prior mentioned Grav/Nrg Dom and Intangibled (I can't remember the name of the AoE Power off hand) half the FC roof? (Only about half, cause I couldn't hit the villains with it LOL) I mean, there's no debt, it wears off, and nobody dies LoL.
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No...because they'd be phased and won't be able to hit you...for about 8 seconds =)
Whew....8 seconds will be PLENTY of time to get away LoL
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"Right" is a subjective term. What might be "right" to you, may not be "right" in my opinion. When it comes to a online gaming, "right" is irrelevant, only what is and is not allowable.
If I go to Warburg, and all I want to do is launch the missile, I have no desire to engage any other players, is it "right" for someone to attack me anyways?
If I go to Bloody Bay, and all I want to do is collect the meteor shards, is it "right" for another player to attack me?
If I go to Siren's Call, and only want to engage mobs in Hot Spot battles, and never attack another player, is it "right" to be attacked by one?
The answer to all of the above questions is contained in Cuppa's earlier post.
Thing is, "right" is a matter of personal interpretation. I don't think it's "right", for example, for people to be named things like "Chicken McNuggets", "FattyBlasterBoi" or "IRHeeler" in game. I don't think it's "right" for 8 different people to spam broadcast that they are all LFT when they could just join up and form a team themselves. There are many things which we each might individually consider to not be "right"... but none of that matters.
What DOES matter is if it is "allowed". The devs have stated that attacking someone, who is in a PVP zone, even if they don't WANT to be attacked, is allowed. Even if they are claiming exemption because they are RPing. Even if they are fighting a group of mobs. The devs have also stated that getting mobs to do your dirty work for you, be it bringing the mobs to you, or even bringing you to the mobs (like TPing you, or pulling you), is allowed.
If you do not want other players to have the opportunity to be able to cause you to die, regardless of HOW they cause it, then your only option is to stay out of the PVP zones, it's really that simple.
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Thing is, "right" is a matter of personal interpretation. I don't think it's "right", for example, for people to be named things like "Chicken McNuggets", "FattyBlasterBoi" or "IRHeeler" in game. I don't think it's "right" for 8 different people to spam broadcast that they are all LFT when they could just join up and form a team themselves. There are many things which we each might individually consider to not be "right"... but none of that matters.
What DOES matter is if it is "allowed". The devs have stated that attacking someone, who is in a PVP zone, even if they don't WANT to be attacked, is allowed. Even if they are claiming exemption because they are RPing. Even if they are fighting a group of mobs. The devs have also stated that getting mobs to do your dirty work for you, be it bringing the mobs to you, or even bringing you to the mobs (like TPing you, or pulling you), is allowed.
If you do not want other players to have the opportunity to be able to cause you to die, regardless of HOW they cause it, then your only option is to stay out of the PVP zones, it's really that simple.
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I totally agree.
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IDK if this was brought up because i dont feel like reading the whole entire thread, but i acctually thought about it when i just made my post, here it is:
Cuppa, is someone in a PvP zone aloud to Teleport you, hold you, immobilize you, or in any way do something to you that you cant control INTO a PvE mob? Does that count and is acceptable? Because that has happened to me 1000+ times and i HATE getting debt.
Now your probably going to say that this is a PvP zone and it has risks and i understand that. But then why are PvE's in a PvP zone? I can understand for Sirens Call that you need them in there and the meteor guys in BB and the guys in the "web" for WB.
But can a player do that to ya?
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During CoV beta, a player asked:
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So instead of joining right in, I drag my toggle (darkest night) herding up say a few spawns of mobs, and drag them over the battle, hoping to cause a big ruckus, get a few people to drop below 50% hp, and bam SCOURGE!...
Got a tell from a guy afterward saying that I griefed them.
Sure a few guys got killed by NPC damage so they got debt, but it is a valid tactic yes?
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The OFFICIAL response, from Statesman himself (please note the red), was:
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Actually, it's a valid tactic the way you describe it.
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theres something different there:
That guy tped foes TO the player, we are talking about the player TO the foes...
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still the same end result though nether
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well since the guy that had the foe's tped to him already was ingaged in battle (meaning had his toggles and stuff on or inspirations) but when you are just being tped into a mob out of pure randomness, and can be kind of different
but you do have a point
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Gumbo
1 1/2 cups Medium Dark Roux, see How To Roux, recipe follows
2 cups diced onions
1 cup diced celery
1 cup diced green bell pepper
1 tablespoon finely chopped garlic
2 quarts shrimp, crab or chicken stock
1 pound andouille sausage, sliced into 1/4-inch thick rounds, browned in a skillet, and drained on paper towels
2 bay leaves
1 tablespoon Worcestershire sauce
Dash hot sauce
1/4 teaspoon cayenne
1 1/2 teaspoons salt
3/4 teaspoon freshly ground black pepper
2 pounds medium shrimp, peeled and deveined
1 teaspoon cajun spice
1/2 pound lump crabmeat, picked over for shells and cartilage
1/3 cup green onion tops, chopped
1/2 cup coarsely chopped parsley leaves
2 tablespoons chopped fresh thyme leaves
1 tablespoon chopped fresh basil leaves
1/2 cup file powder, or to taste
Steamed White Rice, for serving
Heat the roux in a medium-sized heavy stockpot over medium-high heat. When hot, add the onions, celery and bell pepper. Stir mixture until onions begin to brown, about 5 minutes. Add the garlic and continue to cook for 1 minute. Slowly pour in stock, whisking constantly to prevent lumps from forming. Add the browned sausage, bay leaves, Worcestershire, hot sauce, cayenne, salt, and pepper.
Bring gumbo to a boil, reduce heat to medium and simmer until gumbo is slightly reduced, about 50 minutes. (Gumbo should cook long enough for the roux flavor to mellow and for any floury taste to dissipate.)
Season the shrimp with the cajun spice in a small bowl. Stir in the seasoned shrimp, crabmeat, green onions, parsley, thyme and basil. Cook until shrimp are cooked through, about 5 minutes. Taste and adjust seasonings, if necessary. Sprinkle in file powder and cook, stirring, 2 minutes more, or pass file at the table for guests to thicken as desired. Remove bay leaves before serving.
Serve in warmed soup bowls over steamed white rice.
How to Roux:
3 cups vegetable oil
5 cups all-purpose flour
Place a heavy, iron Dutch oven, (or iron skillet with deep sides) over medium heat and heat the oil until just smoking. Whisk in flour, a little at a time and cook, whisking constantly, until roux becomes smooth and thick. Continue to cook, constantly stirring with a wooden spoon and reaching all over bottom of pan, until roux darkens to desired color. Be careful not to produce specs of black. The roux must remain an even color throughout process. If specs appear you must start over.
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Dat some good fine eatin yeesuh! AYYYYEEEE!
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IDK if this was brought up because i dont feel like reading the whole entire thread, but i acctually thought about it when i just made my post, here it is:
Cuppa, is someone in a PvP zone aloud to Teleport you, hold you, immobilize you, or in any way do something to you that you cant control INTO a PvE mob? Does that count and is acceptable? Because that has happened to me 1000+ times and i HATE getting debt.
Now your probably going to say that this is a PvP zone and it has risks and i understand that. But then why are PvE's in a PvP zone? I can understand for Sirens Call that you need them in there and the meteor guys in BB and the guys in the "web" for WB.
But can a player do that to ya?
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During CoV beta, a player asked:
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So instead of joining right in, I drag my toggle (darkest night) herding up say a few spawns of mobs, and drag them over the battle, hoping to cause a big ruckus, get a few people to drop below 50% hp, and bam SCOURGE!...
Got a tell from a guy afterward saying that I griefed them.
Sure a few guys got killed by NPC damage so they got debt, but it is a valid tactic yes?
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The OFFICIAL response, from Statesman himself (please note the red), was:
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Actually, it's a valid tactic the way you describe it.
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You are also talking about someone that used their GM rights in CoH beta to monster grief a group just because they griefed him. Mage Storm was 100% correct in this thread earlier. Just because you can do something doesn't make it right, Samus.
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"Right" is a subjective term. What might be "right" to you, may not be "right" in my opinion. When it comes to a online gaming, "right" is irrelevant, only what is and is not allowable.
If I go to Warburg, and all I want to do is launch the missile, I have no desire to engage any other players, is it "right" for someone to attack me anyways?
If I go to Bloody Bay, and all I want to do is collect the meteor shards, is it "right" for another player to attack me?
If I go to Siren's Call, and only want to engage mobs in Hot Spot battles, and never attack another player, is it "right" to be attacked by one?
The answer to all of the above questions is contained in Cuppa's earlier post.
Thing is, "right" is a matter of personal interpretation. I don't think it's "right", for example, for people to be named things like "Chicken McNuggets", "FattyBlasterBoi" or "IRHeeler" in game. I don't think it's "right" for 8 different people to spam broadcast that they are all LFT when they could just join up and form a team themselves. There are many things which we each might individually consider to not be "right"... but none of that matters.
What DOES matter is if it is "allowed". The devs have stated that attacking someone, who is in a PVP zone, even if they don't WANT to be attacked, is allowed. Even if they are claiming exemption because they are RPing. Even if they are fighting a group of mobs. The devs have also stated that getting mobs to do your dirty work for you, be it bringing the mobs to you, or even bringing you to the mobs (like TPing you, or pulling you), is allowed.
If you do not want other players to have the opportunity to be able to cause you to die, regardless of HOW they cause it, then your only option is to stay out of the PVP zones, it's really that simple.
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Your absolutely right, Samus, right is a subjective term here. I am not concerned with anything in an open PvP zone aside from griefing and causing people debt (Which is griefing everywhere else in the game, btw.).
"I never said thank you." - Lt. Gordon
"And you'll never have to." - the Dark Knight
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"Right" is a subjective term. What might be "right" to you, may not be "right" in my opinion. When it comes to a online gaming, "right" is irrelevant, only what is and is not allowable.
If I go to Warburg, and all I want to do is launch the missile, I have no desire to engage any other players, is it "right" for someone to attack me anyways?
If I go to Bloody Bay, and all I want to do is collect the meteor shards, is it "right" for another player to attack me?
If I go to Siren's Call, and only want to engage mobs in Hot Spot battles, and never attack another player, is it "right" to be attacked by one?
The answer to all of the above questions is contained in Cuppa's earlier post.
Thing is, "right" is a matter of personal interpretation. I don't think it's "right", for example, for people to be named things like "Chicken McNuggets", "FattyBlasterBoi" or "IRHeeler" in game. I don't think it's "right" for 8 different people to spam broadcast that they are all LFT when they could just join up and form a team themselves. There are many things which we each might individually consider to not be "right"... but none of that matters.
What DOES matter is if it is "allowed". The devs have stated that attacking someone, who is in a PVP zone, even if they don't WANT to be attacked, is allowed. Even if they are claiming exemption because they are RPing. Even if they are fighting a group of mobs. The devs have also stated that getting mobs to do your dirty work for you, be it bringing the mobs to you, or even bringing you to the mobs (like TPing you, or pulling you), is allowed.
If you do not want other players to have the opportunity to be able to cause you to die, regardless of HOW they cause it, then your only option is to stay out of the PVP zones, it's really that simple.
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...Damned Dev Digest pointing me to these topics...
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Comments about warm cooking areas, and vacating them if it's too toasty for you spring to mind. I sympathise to a point - I was hunting Blue Inks in SC, however at least I made arrangements that if I was bounty, if a villain told me, they could gank me no worries. This is you guys trying to turn SC into your own social club to the exclusion of other paying customers.
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"......anyone who read the description of a blaster and actually rolled one up isn't capable of understanding... how to breath without visual aids and an iron lung." - TheMightyScourge
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All I got out of this thread was the desire to shower with you too. 
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Gumbo
1 1/2 cups Medium Dark Roux, see How To Roux, recipe follows
2 cups diced onions
1 cup diced celery
1 cup diced green bell pepper
1 tablespoon finely chopped garlic
2 quarts shrimp, crab or chicken stock
1 pound andouille sausage, sliced into 1/4-inch thick rounds, browned in a skillet, and drained on paper towels
2 bay leaves
1 tablespoon Worcestershire sauce
Dash hot sauce
1/4 teaspoon cayenne
1 1/2 teaspoons salt
3/4 teaspoon freshly ground black pepper
2 pounds medium shrimp, peeled and deveined
1 teaspoon cajun spice
1/2 pound lump crabmeat, picked over for shells and cartilage
1/3 cup green onion tops, chopped
1/2 cup coarsely chopped parsley leaves
2 tablespoons chopped fresh thyme leaves
1 tablespoon chopped fresh basil leaves
1/2 cup file powder, or to taste
Steamed White Rice, for serving
Heat the roux in a medium-sized heavy stockpot over medium-high heat. When hot, add the onions, celery and bell pepper. Stir mixture until onions begin to brown, about 5 minutes. Add the garlic and continue to cook for 1 minute. Slowly pour in stock, whisking constantly to prevent lumps from forming. Add the browned sausage, bay leaves, Worcestershire, hot sauce, cayenne, salt, and pepper.
Bring gumbo to a boil, reduce heat to medium and simmer until gumbo is slightly reduced, about 50 minutes. (Gumbo should cook long enough for the roux flavor to mellow and for any floury taste to dissipate.)
Season the shrimp with the cajun spice in a small bowl. Stir in the seasoned shrimp, crabmeat, green onions, parsley, thyme and basil. Cook until shrimp are cooked through, about 5 minutes. Taste and adjust seasonings, if necessary. Sprinkle in file powder and cook, stirring, 2 minutes more, or pass file at the table for guests to thicken as desired. Remove bay leaves before serving.
Serve in warmed soup bowls over steamed white rice.
How to Roux:
3 cups vegetable oil
5 cups all-purpose flour
Place a heavy, iron Dutch oven, (or iron skillet with deep sides) over medium heat and heat the oil until just smoking. Whisk in flour, a little at a time and cook, whisking constantly, until roux becomes smooth and thick. Continue to cook, constantly stirring with a wooden spoon and reaching all over bottom of pan, until roux darkens to desired color. Be careful not to produce specs of black. The roux must remain an even color throughout process. If specs appear you must start over.
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Dat some good fine eatin yeesuh! AYYYYEEEE!
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Add in some Tony's to it.
"I never said thank you." - Lt. Gordon
"And you'll never have to." - the Dark Knight
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IDK if this was brought up because i dont feel like reading the whole entire thread, but i acctually thought about it when i just made my post, here it is:
Cuppa, is someone in a PvP zone aloud to Teleport you, hold you, immobilize you, or in any way do something to you that you cant control INTO a PvE mob? Does that count and is acceptable? Because that has happened to me 1000+ times and i HATE getting debt.
Now your probably going to say that this is a PvP zone and it has risks and i understand that. But then why are PvE's in a PvP zone? I can understand for Sirens Call that you need them in there and the meteor guys in BB and the guys in the "web" for WB.
But can a player do that to ya?
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During CoV beta, a player asked:
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So instead of joining right in, I drag my toggle (darkest night) herding up say a few spawns of mobs, and drag them over the battle, hoping to cause a big ruckus, get a few people to drop below 50% hp, and bam SCOURGE!...
Got a tell from a guy afterward saying that I griefed them.
Sure a few guys got killed by NPC damage so they got debt, but it is a valid tactic yes?
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The OFFICIAL response, from Statesman himself (please note the red), was:
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Actually, it's a valid tactic the way you describe it.
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You are also talking about someone that used their GM rights in CoH beta to monster grief a group just because they griefed him. Mage Storm was 100% correct in this thread earlier. Just because you can do something doesn't make it right, Samus.
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okay here is a question regarding mobs. say i am fighting in a hotspot by myself, im at just above 1/2 healthand i have about 12 mobs around me. a villian throws a couple attacks at me and i drop to like 50 hp. say the next attack on me is by a psi spider - lm dead. i just got debt because a villian attacked me.
is this griefing? if not why? if your one villian and 12 mobs. what are the percentages your getting the kill? make it easier, say it was 9 mobs. that gives you a 10 % chance have getting the kill. 9/10 times you will be giving me debt? realistically that should be considered debt.
or how about the other way around. im tp you into a hotspot with my troller. i have minimal dmg output. i hope for the mobs to where you down and get teh killing shot. same scenario. i have 10% chance to get the bounty, but i am trying to kill you, is it griefing?
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This is a tactic for when running doesn't work, when asking them to go away doesn't either.
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I would use your own words against you, since you stated earlier that if anyone attacks you, you just push them into NPC's for debt and that you wanted to give them something to remember you by, but it seems you deleted all your other posts. Neat-O way to CYA. Not even Rove has it so nice.
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Just to make things clear here -
If someone attacks you in a PvP zone and you are having an RP event (like FC) that is NOT harassment.
If you are in a PvP zone you can attack another player repeatedly.
However - you cannot trash talk someone using vulgar words, racial slurs, sexual slurs or other UA violating actions. That IS harassment and can be actioned against by the GMs.
You could also be actioned for exploiting in a PvP zone - for example - by hanging out as a villain in a hero hospital to gank heroes as they respawn. This is not as designed and may be actioned.
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Well CuppaJo has made it clear what the GMs have to say on the subject. The best way to deal with Catholic Knight disrupting FC is to attack him on sight since it is a PVP zone. Any other action could be interpetted as being worse than anything we are upset at Catholic Knight for and depending on the severity could become griefing. We don't want to go down that road. We as a server are better than that. Kill Catholic enough times maybe he will behave. That's our only recourse without violating the game rules.
Here's the issue some of us have with Catholic Knight. He intentionally goes to FC and pushes everyone off the building. If his intention was just to PVP as he claims he would attack one villian engage them in battle and try to defeat them. He does not do that. What he does do is summon his storm and tries to knock EVERY villian off the building from Fight club especially the melee villians. Is it violating a game rule? Nope. Does he have the right to do it? I guess so it's a PVP zone. Is it meanspirited? Absolutley. Does it upset the enjoyment of a lot of his fellow gamers? Well obviously by the size of the thread it does.
But hey it's his reputation he has to live with. Sooner or later when no one will team with him and every villian attacks him on sight he will have ruined his PVP experience in SC as much as anyone else. How sad for him if his enjoyment is to upset so many others to get his thrills. Hundreds of us are able to enjoy Siren's call, get bounty and PVP battles without disrupting FC. Kind of funny Catholic can't wouldn't you say?
We as a community have made our feelings clear on both sides of the issue. Probably would be better if we just let the thread die now. There are so many fun and positive things we can focus on instead of this issue I'm sure. 
I'm going to do this the old fashion way, keep it simple stupid. (kiss rule)
Before you enter "Siren's call" or "Warburg" there is a sign or a man that tells you what you are getting in to when you enter the zone;a policy.Nevertheless,when fight club is initiated ,people(foes) can come up to you and kill you,thus, if they had morals or respect;etc, they would not do these actions,however, it does not give anybody the right to tp foe somebody in to a "mob" and get you or anybody killed.(debt)Nonetheless,the only harassment you can do in these "pvp zones"(siren's call or warburg) is written abuse. If whomever kills you repeatedly, you tell him or them to stop, they can ignore you and keep doing it; this is not harassment according to the policies outside of these "pvp zones." YOU ARE EXPECTED TO BE KILLED OR TO KILL! 
Like I said it has to be written abuse. 
MeTalO signing out.
Players are warned, repeatedly, upon entering the PvP zones that these zones are meant for open PvP--that you can be attacked by another player at ANY time. This means that you can be attacked while you're attacking "mobs", or while you're doing a one-on-one fight on a rooftop, while you're running to a mission, or, yes, while you're engaged in a "Fight Club" (an unofficial event). None of these constitute harassment. A player can repeatedly kill you, over and over and over. That's not harassment, either. By choosing to enter the zone, you have acknowledged this.
Furthermore, it's clear that the Developers intended "mobs" to be used. This is a brutal fact about these zones, but they have team-flagged (and unflagged) "mobs" for a reason. You can get angry about a player using them, but any real warrior will tell you that's just tactics. War is hell, and all's fair in love and war. If you don't want to get debt for your "Fight Club", you need to set it up in the Arena.
Lastly, though, let me point out that everyone singling Catholic Knight out for opprobrium on this board is actually in violation of the rules of the board (link) themselves:
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2. No character assassination threads
Threads that single out a player for ridicule or to accuse someone of actions in-game will be removed without notice. Repeatedly targeting another person is considered ongoing harassment and is a severe violation of the forum rules. In-game violations need to be reported via the appropriate channels, such as the GM system, and email support. If you believe that in-game GMs and the support system have not provided a sufficient or timely response, you may submit an inquiry to members of the forum staff via PM. Public posts of such accusations will be construed as attempts to cause antagonism for its own sake.
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Honestly, you're lucky this thread's still here and people specifically accusing Catholic Knight (or anyone else) of in-game harassment haven't been disciplined for violating the board's rules.
They ought to be.
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IDK if this was brought up because i dont feel like reading the whole entire thread, but i acctually thought about it when i just made my post, here it is:
Cuppa, is someone in a PvP zone aloud to Teleport you, hold you, immobilize you, or in any way do something to you that you cant control INTO a PvE mob? Does that count and is acceptable? Because that has happened to me 1000+ times and i HATE getting debt.
Now your probably going to say that this is a PvP zone and it has risks and i understand that. But then why are PvE's in a PvP zone? I can understand for Sirens Call that you need them in there and the meteor guys in BB and the guys in the "web" for WB.
But can a player do that to ya?
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During CoV beta, a player asked:
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So instead of joining right in, I drag my toggle (darkest night) herding up say a few spawns of mobs, and drag them over the battle, hoping to cause a big ruckus, get a few people to drop below 50% hp, and bam SCOURGE!...
Got a tell from a guy afterward saying that I griefed them.
Sure a few guys got killed by NPC damage so they got debt, but it is a valid tactic yes?
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Actually, it's a valid tactic the way you describe it.
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theres something different there:
That guy tped foes TO the player, we are talking about the player TO the foes...
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