Sure. Why not?
Ugh ... getting a hundred when you actually do the tutorial is tedious enough, 250 would be sheer tedium.
Why exactly is it a bad thing that pre-I2 characters can't get Isolator? I mean, besides "I want it!", which isn't a reason convincing to anyone else.
So...the contaminated are overunning that part of the city in the present? And you want to use a time-travelling device to send a hero to the past, yet in the past, the enemies were still at a normal level...
Can you say "plot hole"?
So, the hero is not sent to the exact point he left, but a short time later when their numbers had grown significantly enough to cause the zone to be overrun in the future.
Feel better now? 
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So, the hero is not sent to the exact point he left, but a short time later when their numbers had grown significantly enough to cause the zone to be overrun in the future.
Feel better now?
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Not really, because that would mean that the Lost which are sending the drug have to increase their supply, and that isn't happening in CoV yet.
Also, if there's an outbreak, wouldn't they just send in the currect heroes to take them on? It'd be faster to send in someone that could take out all of them in a matter of minutes than a to send them back in time to an issue in the present.
I like the idea, but I'm thinking an Auto exemp to 2 would be better.
I was looking for a cool, simple way to get Isolator badge for those that don't have it. Didn't expect to see resistance to the idea. However there's a comic-book explanation for everything right? 
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Not really, because that would mean that the Lost which are sending the drug have to increase their supply, and that isn't happening in CoV yet.
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Because the hero did nothing the first time through the drug made it's way into the watersupply contaminating even more civilians!
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Also, if there's an outbreak, wouldn't they just send in the currect heroes to take them on? It'd be faster to send in someone that could take out all of them in a matter of minutes than a to send them back in time to an issue in the present.
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Because the hero failed to take care of the contamination the first time, Ms Liberty felt it was right to give the hero this one opportunity to correct their mistake personally!
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I was looking for a cool, simple way to get Isolator badge for those that don't have it. Didn't expect to see resistance to the idea. However there's a comic-book explanation for everything right?
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Not really, because that would mean that the Lost which are sending the drug have to increase their supply, and that isn't happening in CoV yet.
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Because the hero did nothing the first time through the drug made it's way into the watersupply contaminating even more civilians!
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Also, if there's an outbreak, wouldn't they just send in the currect heroes to take them on? It'd be faster to send in someone that could take out all of them in a matter of minutes than a to send them back in time to an issue in the present.
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Because the hero failed to take care of the contamination the first time, Ms Liberty felt it was right to give the hero this one opportunity to correct their mistake personally!
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The water supply? I can dig that.
The correcting of a mistake? Now you're just being insulted by Statesman's grand daughter. Why would her grand father give you the medal 'Hero of the City' if you made a mistake causing so many people such strife?
My answer to this is no. It's one simple badge that, as a person playing since beta, I can say is not important at all. My badge [censored] of a character doesn't have it, and if I could get it, I wouldn't plan on wearing it either.
Simply put, it's more time and effort put into something that is not needed.
This is just one person thinking [referring to Celtic]
what about everyone else? what if they want it?
Just because your obnoxious means nothing.
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This is just one person thinking [referring to Celtic]
what about everyone else? what if they want it?
Just because your obnoxious means nothing.
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Wait...I'm being obnoxious by giving evidence as to why it *shouldn't* be in the game? Don't you think that you're the one that is being obnoxious be A) insulting me, B) asking for something that takes resources, money, and time away from things that need it more (eg: bugs, powers, content)?
I have it on all but the 2 toons I've had since I started back just after CoH release. One of those 2 is my badge ho. Dont have it, dont think I should be able to get it. Heck he's got the WL badges and a few others my newer toons dont have, and never expect to get..
yet again is like the 1 year badge. the WL badge, 1st Holloween badges. it happens move on. you aint gonna die if you are missin a few of them.
So.. ahh... why not just give the badge away? You know. If you were here before I2, why not?
And cookies, hand them out also. Cake and Cookies, Pie even.
Well, I guess you'd have to earn the Pie.
Point is.. I betcha' that Statesmen doesn't have an Isolation Badge. Does he care? I don't think so. He's beyond the badge.
Start a new Alt.. get the badge.
mmmm pie.
and as far as lvl 50 content goes, I'd rather have more lvl 50 mishs period or for that matter, gimme more levels, and more powers and andan.. wait what was the topic?
I have to agree with the notion that this badge should remain in the tutorial and only in the tutorial. It's not a particularly "cool" badge, not part of any accolades, and to me, it's just one of the 200+ I have. Why is there a desire to have it, other than you can't get it other than in the very beginning?
Now if they made a post-50 mission where they award a mission badge that was not named isolator but was similiar in meaning (beating contaminated), then that would be fine. The point is, this badge is a badge because it is only available in the Outbreak. If it was taken out of the Outbreak tutorial, I would want other unique badges (i.e. mission badges be available) later on. Hmmm, actually that would be pretty cool, if a contact gave you nothing but missed badge missions.
Great, now I don't know what to think!
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I just think they should cut it down to 20 contaminated instead of 100. Defeating 100 of those guys is booooring. Very few people will fight 20 of those guys unless they're going for the badge, so there's nothing to lose.
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The Isolator Badge reads:
"You began your career on a high note, by personally ending the riots of contaminated thugs in the Outbreak Zone."
However every hero created before Issue 2 has no way to get it! I know there's been some discussion about it, but here's an idea.
Any level 50 hero that speaks to Ms Liberty or Back Alley Brawler will have the opportunity to do a new mission for them. You can only do this mission once and you must be level 50 to gain access to it.
"Hello <hero name>, as a Hero of the City I have a special assignment for you! When you first entered Paragon City the Contaminated in Outbreak were running rampant. Their numbers have grown since and are taking over!
DATA has provided me with a personal Time Travel device that will teleport you back to the time you arrived. But beware <Hero Name>, the contamination has spread! The only powers available to you will be the two you had when you first arrived!
If you stop the Contaminted you will have saved the zone from being overrun in the present! The time travel device only works for one person so you must complete this assignment alone. Return to me for debriefing when you are complete! Good luck!"
As soon as the hero accepts the mission they will transported to the Outbreak map and it will be infested with twice the normal amount of Contaminated! The mission will be to eliminate 250 Contaminated and the mission display will have a counter. The hero will be autoexemped to level one.
The hero takes out 250 of them, gets the badge and a L53 SO. Click mission complete to return to Ms Lib or BAB. Click on them:
"Great job <hero name>! You did it! You stopped the contamination during your arrival to the city and have helped all future generations of heroes. You are a Hero of the City!"
Why the time-travel aspect of the storyline?
To preserve the original intent of the badge "You began your career on a high note.."
Why level 50s only?
Dedication! Only heroes that have shown such dedication to their characters and to the game should have this one opportunity. Heroes created before issue two, should be level 50 by now anyway.
Why the SO? Just a little incentive for a hero created after Issue 2 that has Isolator to run the mission.
Why is the mission only available once? Storyline purposes
Why 250 Contaminated? Dedication! Dedicated badge collectors will not mind. And story line purposes. Because the hero didn't take out 100 Contaminated the first time they were there, their numbers grew, now the hero must make up for it!
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Awesome idea. But I don't think it shuld be for lv 50 heroes.
It should be for heroes who have hit the 300 badge mark. or possibly 200.
That shows real dedication. Getting to 50 is easy.
I'm with you Emerald....the badge should be avaible elsewhere...why because 99% of new people don't know about the badge and by the time they do it's too late. As for the logic it's just another badge....well the same would hold logic to a coin collector because to people who couldn't care less about coins it's just another coin. To the collector on the other hand...it may only be worth a penny, but to them it's their most prized possesion.
Blazing Blue 50 fire/fire Blast, BlueStarr 50 PB, BlueSt 50 stone/ss Tank, Purple Pummaler 50 bs/regen Scrap, Green Puritan 50 emp/nrg Def, Raging Red 50 ice/cold Cor,WhiteLightning 50 ill/storm Cont, GrayMatter 44 WS,Green Marauder 24 nrg/stone Brute,Dark Blue Blaze 26 fire/fire Cor,etc
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I'm with you Emerald....the badge should be avaible elsewhere...why because 99% of new people don't know about the badge and by the time they do it's too late. As for the logic it's just another badge....well the same would hold logic to a coin collector because to people who couldn't care less about coins it's just another coin. To the collector on the other hand...it may only be worth a penny, but to them it's their most prized possesion.
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Except where your logic fails is that, with a coin collector, if a single coin was out of production, and then went back into production, its value would drastically decrease.
The same goes with Isolator...by making it attainable by someone who was part of beta, and on their first character, then the value of Isolator decreases. Just roll up a new badge [censored] and get it...
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I'm with you Emerald....the badge should be avaible elsewhere...why because 99% of new people don't know about the badge and by the time they do it's too late. As for the logic it's just another badge....well the same would hold logic to a coin collector because to people who couldn't care less about coins it's just another coin. To the collector on the other hand...it may only be worth a penny, but to them it's their most prized possesion.
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Except where your logic fails is that, with a coin collector, if a single coin was out of production, and then went back into production, its value would drastically decrease.
The same goes with Isolator...by making it attainable by someone who was part of beta, and on their first character, then the value of Isolator decreases. Just roll up a new badge [censored] and get it...
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But we want it on our MAIN badge [censored]. Why is that so hard to understand? Why is it that just because you don't care about getting Isolator you think we shouldn't be allowed to get it?
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I'm with you Emerald....the badge should be avaible elsewhere...why because 99% of new people don't know about the badge and by the time they do it's too late. As for the logic it's just another badge....well the same would hold logic to a coin collector because to people who couldn't care less about coins it's just another coin. To the collector on the other hand...it may only be worth a penny, but to them it's their most prized possesion.
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Except where your logic fails is that, with a coin collector, if a single coin was out of production, and then went back into production, its value would drastically decrease.
The same goes with Isolator...by making it attainable by someone who was part of beta, and on their first character, then the value of Isolator decreases. Just roll up a new badge [censored] and get it...
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But we want it on our MAIN badge [censored]. Why is that so hard to understand? Why is it that just because you don't care about getting Isolator you think we shouldn't be allowed to get it?
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And why is it so hard for YOU to understand that if you don't fullfill the requirements to get the badge (Even if you had no way of doing so previously) that you should *NOT* be able to get the badge, or be able to go back and get it?
Y'know, I am getting so [censored] tired of people wanting to whine or twist the system just so they can get their way. Get the [censored] over it.
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I'm with you Emerald....the badge should be avaible elsewhere...why because 99% of new people don't know about the badge and by the time they do it's too late. As for the logic it's just another badge....well the same would hold logic to a coin collector because to people who couldn't care less about coins it's just another coin. To the collector on the other hand...it may only be worth a penny, but to them it's their most prized possesion.
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Except where your logic fails is that, with a coin collector, if a single coin was out of production, and then went back into production, its value would drastically decrease.
The same goes with Isolator...by making it attainable by someone who was part of beta, and on their first character, then the value of Isolator decreases. Just roll up a new badge [censored] and get it...
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But we want it on our MAIN badge [censored]. Why is that so hard to understand? Why is it that just because you don't care about getting Isolator you think we shouldn't be allowed to get it?
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And why is it so hard for YOU to understand that if you don't fullfill the requirements to get the badge (Even if you had no way of doing so previously) that you should *NOT* be able to get the badge, or be able to go back and get it?
Y'know, I am getting so [censored] tired of people wanting to whine or twist the system just so they can get their way. Get the [censored] over it.
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BECAUSE. we (I) was never given the chance to get it. I play one toon. I was 50 before I2 and I still play him everyday. I have 315 badges. and the ONLY reason I don't have Isolator is because it did not exist when I started after beta.
Not only that but I DID kill well over 100 contaminated, because we were just learning about the game at the time and it was fun; But because they weren't tracking kills back then I still don't get the badge, even though technicaly I DID EARN IT.
That is why we need something (at the very least for any toon started before I2) to allow us the chance to get that badge.
You may not understand why it is important to us. You may not understand why we dont just roll up another badge toon (though personaly it is because I wouldn't have any of the holiday badges if I did)
But just because you don't get it is no reason to deny it to us.
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I'm with you Emerald....the badge should be avaible elsewhere...why because 99% of new people don't know about the badge and by the time they do it's too late. As for the logic it's just another badge....well the same would hold logic to a coin collector because to people who couldn't care less about coins it's just another coin. To the collector on the other hand...it may only be worth a penny, but to them it's their most prized possesion.
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Except where your logic fails is that, with a coin collector, if a single coin was out of production, and then went back into production, its value would drastically decrease.
The same goes with Isolator...by making it attainable by someone who was part of beta, and on their first character, then the value of Isolator decreases. Just roll up a new badge [censored] and get it...
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But we want it on our MAIN badge [censored]. Why is that so hard to understand? Why is it that just because you don't care about getting Isolator you think we shouldn't be allowed to get it?
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And why is it so hard for YOU to understand that if you don't fullfill the requirements to get the badge (Even if you had no way of doing so previously) that you should *NOT* be able to get the badge, or be able to go back and get it?
Y'know, I am getting so [censored] tired of people wanting to whine or twist the system just so they can get their way. Get the [censored] over it.
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BECAUSE. we (I) was never given the chance to get it. I play one toon. I was 50 before I2 and I still play him everyday. I have 315 badges. and the ONLY reason I don't have Isolator is because it did not exist when I started after beta.
Not only that but I DID kill well over 100 contaminated, because we were just learning about the game at the time and it was fun; But because they weren't tracking kills back then I still don't get the badge, even though technicaly I DID EARN IT.
That is why we need something (at the very least for any toon started before I2) to allow us the chance to get that badge.
You may not understand why it is important to us. You may not understand why we dont just roll up another badge toon (though personaly it is because I wouldn't have any of the holiday badges if I did)
But just because you don't get it is no reason to deny it to us.
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We [censored] get it...we have the same [censored] situation. My badge collector has almost every badge but Isolator, too. He was made in before issue 1 came out. He's level 42. The only difference is that we accept that we can't get everything, and we're fine with that.
Seriously, you're acting like a child...just stop asking for what you can't have, and accept the slap and the wrist.
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I'm with you Emerald....the badge should be avaible elsewhere...why because 99% of new people don't know about the badge and by the time they do it's too late. As for the logic it's just another badge....well the same would hold logic to a coin collector because to people who couldn't care less about coins it's just another coin. To the collector on the other hand...it may only be worth a penny, but to them it's their most prized possesion.
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Except where your logic fails is that, with a coin collector, if a single coin was out of production, and then went back into production, its value would drastically decrease.
The same goes with Isolator...by making it attainable by someone who was part of beta, and on their first character, then the value of Isolator decreases. Just roll up a new badge [censored] and get it...
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But we want it on our MAIN badge [censored]. Why is that so hard to understand? Why is it that just because you don't care about getting Isolator you think we shouldn't be allowed to get it?
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And why is it so hard for YOU to understand that if you don't fullfill the requirements to get the badge (Even if you had no way of doing so previously) that you should *NOT* be able to get the badge, or be able to go back and get it?
Y'know, I am getting so [censored] tired of people wanting to whine or twist the system just so they can get their way. Get the [censored] over it.
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BECAUSE. we (I) was never given the chance to get it. I play one toon. I was 50 before I2 and I still play him everyday. I have 315 badges. and the ONLY reason I don't have Isolator is because it did not exist when I started after beta.
Not only that but I DID kill well over 100 contaminated, because we were just learning about the game at the time and it was fun; But because they weren't tracking kills back then I still don't get the badge, even though technicaly I DID EARN IT.
That is why we need something (at the very least for any toon started before I2) to allow us the chance to get that badge.
You may not understand why it is important to us. You may not understand why we dont just roll up another badge toon (though personaly it is because I wouldn't have any of the holiday badges if I did)
But just because you don't get it is no reason to deny it to us.
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We [censored] get it...we have the same [censored] situation. My badge collector has almost every badge but Isolator, too. He was made in before issue 1 came out. He's level 42. The only difference is that we accept that we can't get everything, and we're fine with that.
Seriously, you're acting like a child...just stop asking for what you can't have, and accept the slap and the wrist.
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I am not swearing or calling names. SO who is acting like a child?
I understand that they have it set a certain way. And if you want to accept it that is your call. But I fight for things I want.
It is unfortunate but the best way to get devs to change something is to bring it to their attention, and the best way to do that is to keep asking and reminding them.
SO until Statesman comes to a forum and says : "Markus you will never be able to get Isolator"
I am going to keep asking for it.
If you don't want to hear about it I can respect that. SO don't read a thread called: "An idea for Isolator! " in the SUGGESTIONS FORUM!!
But to come to a forum where people are trying to offer ideas on how it should be awarded and getting mad at them for it is ignorant.
Its fine by me, 2 thumps up! (but if you a being with no hands, 2 toes up!!) 
The Isolator Badge reads:
"You began your career on a high note, by personally ending the riots of contaminated thugs in the Outbreak Zone."
However every hero created before Issue 2 has no way to get it! I know there's been some discussion about it, but here's an idea.
Any level 50 hero that speaks to Ms Liberty or Back Alley Brawler will have the opportunity to do a new mission for them. You can only do this mission once and you must be level 50 to gain access to it.
"Hello <hero name>, as a Hero of the City I have a special assignment for you! When you first entered Paragon City the Contaminated in Outbreak were running rampant. Their numbers have grown since and are taking over!
DATA has provided me with a personal Time Travel device that will teleport you back to the time you arrived. But beware <Hero Name>, the contamination has spread! The only powers available to you will be the two you had when you first arrived!
If you stop the Contaminted you will have saved the zone from being overrun in the present! The time travel device only works for one person so you must complete this assignment alone. Return to me for debriefing when you are complete! Good luck!"
As soon as the hero accepts the mission they will transported to the Outbreak map and it will be infested with twice the normal amount of Contaminated! The mission will be to eliminate 250 Contaminated and the mission display will have a counter. The hero will be autoexemped to level one.
The hero takes out 250 of them, gets the badge and a L53 SO. Click mission complete to return to Ms Lib or BAB. Click on them:
"Great job <hero name>! You did it! You stopped the contamination during your arrival to the city and have helped all future generations of heroes. You are a Hero of the City!"
Why the time-travel aspect of the storyline?
To preserve the original intent of the badge "You began your career on a high note.."
Why level 50s only?
Dedication! Only heroes that have shown such dedication to their characters and to the game should have this one opportunity. Heroes created before issue two, should be level 50 by now anyway.
Why the SO? Just a little incentive for a hero created after Issue 2 that has Isolator to run the mission.
Why is the mission only available once? Storyline purposes
Why 250 Contaminated? Dedication! Dedicated badge collectors will not mind. And story line purposes. Because the hero didn't take out 100 Contaminated the first time they were there, their numbers grew, now the hero must make up for it!
What do you think?
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