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At minimum 3 arcs. There is Mr. Bocor he has an arc, Billy Heck has an arc, and um Angeleti? I think he has an arc. It appears the you can't get more than 1 maybe 2 of the arcs before out leveling them. I managed to get Mr. Bocor's and Billy Hecks done but I just finished Billy's at level 11 and now he won't talk to me.
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If you complete each arc before picking up the next one you will outlvl the last one. If you stop mid-arc and start the next one and get them all started before you outlvl them you can finish them. This will hopefully be less and less a problem in the higher lvls.
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I forget what they called it, but I think the devs were working on a patch that allowed you to go back and finish your out-lvled contacts in CoH, I hope they get it made and aply it to both CoH and CoV, soon.
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You've been able to return to outlevelled contacts in CoH to finish story arcs since at least I3.
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Seriously? Because I still can't. 
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I don't know if that's a bug or not (like I'm not sure if Mongoose is supposed to give a souvenir or not).
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Mongoose SHOULD give a souvenir. I got one in beta, it was that snake idol thing that you find in like the second mission. However, my Brute did not get it after finishing his arc. Petitioned it and got the response back that its a known issue and they're working on it, however, they did NOT say whether or not that 'solution' would apply to existing characters that have done the arc.
sometimes it's better if you do outlevel an arc, for example I have a level 26 brute on victory, there is no one my level to team with and I am trying to outlevel a mish where I have to fight a level 23 hero (basically cov version of an archvillain), I will probably have to wait one more level simply because it will take me more time to get some infamy for so's so I can finally beat that mish
- CaptainFoamerang
Silverspar on Kelly Hu: A face that could melt paint off the wall *shivers*
Someone play my AE arc! "The Heart of Statesman" ID: 343405
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You've been able to return to outlevelled contacts in CoH to finish story arcs since at least I3.
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Seriously? Because I still can't.
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You only can if you've already been offered the first mission in the arc. If you haven't, then no, you can't go back and get it.
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Has anyone else noticed that Defeat All's are sprinkled a little TOO liberally in those first few levels?
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There's that, but really, the major problem is that the mission maps are all [censored] enormous. In CoH when you start out your mission maps are tiny, a couple rooms here and there. In CoV you start getting 5-level office maps and full-size purple caves with the Swiss cheese room from the get-go. This puts in way too many mobs. If there were no newspaper missions, this would kind of make sense, as there are a couple of dead XP spots in early CoH, which having bigger maps would fix. But there are newspaper missions, so if you should happen to get to level 9 and run out of missions(or 14, or 19, or whatever), you can just run a few of those and you're golden. Having both kind of screws you over for the lower-level content. At least they changed the number of missions required to get contacts from brokers from 5 to 3.
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I'd be happier if it was 2 like it was in the last week of beta.
One tip to prevent outleveling story arcs is to do only the minimum necessary to complete each mission.
If you have a Defeat X foes outdoor mission, tackle blues, greens, or even greys to fill it, so you don't get that much experience from the fights. As a bonus, the fights go really quick versus greens and greys.
If you have to defeat a specific foe in a mission, run past the other foes in earlier parts of the mission to get to the final room. While this is easier to do with some form of stealth, I can do this with just Sprint versus any foes that don't have ranged status effects. After you've played for a while, you'll get the feel for the maps and know just where to go.
Likewise, if you have a 'click the glowy' mission, run past your foes and just look for your objective. You may have to defeat foes immediately around your objective, and all the newspaper 'get X' glowy missions require you to clear the room the object is in. However, it's a lot quicker than plodding through multiple levels of foes, and you only get XP for the mission reward and the few foes you need to fight.
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I'm obsessively trying to complete every arc as I go and even with nearly a dozen done before I hit level 17 I think I may have missed one or two. Rumor has it Billy Heck has a second story arc, but if he does I've never seen it either in beta or in live. Likewise all I know about Veluda Lenata is having seen her name mentioned on the boards twice now. I've never been referred to her or stumbled across her, and have no idea if she offers a story arc or not.
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he does have a second arc and i am doing it right now. Here is what i am doing to get as many arcs as possible. First I am doing all of the newspaper missions to get the contacts and doing the missions up to the point where the major story arc is offered for each contact is offered. Now i have all of Billies arcs and I have Bocor's and vendetti's arcs.
Something I also noticed last night, is that you can have 3 arcs going at once now. Prior to CoV going live, you could only have 2 story arcs going at once. As Dark_One pointed out indirectly, the problem with the pre-10 range is there is NO debt, so no matter what you do, you are going to advance.
And the arcs that I know about:
Port Oakes
Bocor: 1 arc and badge/temp power, intro to Radio
Heck: 1 arc and smaller arc for temp power
Vendetti: 1 arc and badge
Radio: 1 badge (just received last night)
CaD:
Unknown (level bump in beta shot me past this one)
Sharkhead:
"Sea Captain": 1 arc
"Consortium Enforcer": 1 arc, intro to Crash
Crash Cage: 2 (?) arcs
+at least 5(?) more contacts (1 basic, 2 arachnos ops, 2 others)
Sorry for the sketchy details on the Contacts and what I have found.
I'm having an issue in that I go for the Vendetti arc and badge right away, but he sends me down a different story arc, so no badge. Anyone know if there's something I'm supposed to do in one mission to get one arc versus the other?
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Seriously? Because I still can't.
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You only can if you've already been offered the first mission in the arc. If you haven't, then no, you can't go back and get it.
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Right after I3 came out, I went to contacts with story arcs who had never even given me the first mission and that were extremely outleveled. The three or four I went to gladly offered me those arcs. I was even allowed to restart a story arc that had broken on me at the end of the second to last mission when I first did it.
Thats all CoH side though, of course. All of the CoV contacts are being extremely stingy with their story arcs.
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I'm having an issue in that I go for the Vendetti arc and badge right away, but he sends me down a different story arc, so no badge. Anyone know if there's something I'm supposed to do in one mission to get one arc versus the other?
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Vendetti's badge mission is not part of an arc, it's a standalone. Same for Bocor's.
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The more I think about this, the more it seems like it could be a good thing. To my mind, outlvling some arcs can increase the replayability of the game. If you go through and get to the max lvl while completeing every arc theres not much of an incentive to create a new toon just to do the same thing all over again. By missing some arcs the first few times around when you go back with a new toon you can make sure you pick up the arcs you missed, thus creating a somewhat new experience. So maybe there is a silver lining after all.
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The more I think about this, the more it seems like it could be a good thing. To my mind, outlvling some arcs can increase the replayability of the game. If you go through and get to the max lvl while completeing every arc theres not much of an incentive to create a new toon just to do the same thing all over again. By missing some arcs the first few times around when you go back with a new toon you can make sure you pick up the arcs you missed, thus creating a somewhat new experience. So maybe there is a silver lining after all.
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Bleah. That is the Statesman Theory, yes.
In reality, I have one character that I do my best to see all content with...and I also have 50+ alts that I play regularly. My altitis has nothing to do with trying to see content that I missed the first time though...I just *like playing lots of different characters*.
Some people are completists. That's how they have fun. And yet again someone is telling those people they're not having the right kind of fun. *sigh*
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I think it's patently ridiculous that this same problem plagues CoV.
I seriously hope that if there's a CoH2 or whatever, that they completely do away with the level range BS.
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Bleah. That is the Statesman Theory, yes.
In reality, I have one character that I do my best to see all content with...and I also have 50+ alts that I play regularly. My altitis has nothing to do with trying to see content that I missed the first time though...I just *like playing lots of different characters*.
Some people are completists. That's how they have fun. And yet again someone is telling those people they're not having the right kind of fun. *sigh*
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Some people find [sheep] buggery fun. I'd happen to feel that is the wrong kind of fun.
Yes, it is a hyperbolic example.
[ Added clarification, sorry folks, will prolly end up watching this poof because I made a jerk of myself ]
Let's Dance!
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Some people find buggery fun. I'd happen to feel that is the wrong kind of fun.
Yes, it is a hyperbolic example.
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Thanks for sharing your homophobia with the group. Did you have anything on-topic to add?
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Some people find buggery fun. I'd happen to feel that is the wrong kind of fun.
Yes, it is a hyperbolic example.
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Thanks for sharing your homophobia with the group. Did you have anything on-topic to add?
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Umm, yes. Perhaps you should actually do more than just the first entry on Merriam Webster for the definition of the word...
In any event, it refers specifically to a type of relation that is between entities that aren't even the same species.
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Fun research of the moment, makes me to look like a jack [censored], alas, my poor college literature has failed me. That or it was a vernacular usage that wasn't quite as specific as I thought.
In any event, I did not mean it to refer to the more general usage. So, I'm sorry for those offended.
And confirmed, the term refers to both, so I do apologize for the confusion, and the snappy retort. Now to explain my point. What you see as fun, may be seen as a bad thing in some other eyes, and something 'not to be' desired, for various reasons.
Let's Dance!
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The more I think about this, the more it seems like it could be a good thing. To my mind, outlvling some arcs can increase the replayability of the game. If you go through and get to the max lvl while completeing every arc theres not much of an incentive to create a new toon just to do the same thing all over again. By missing some arcs the first few times around when you go back with a new toon you can make sure you pick up the arcs you missed, thus creating a somewhat new experience. So maybe there is a silver lining after all.
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Bleah. That is the Statesman Theory, yes.
In reality, I have one character that I do my best to see all content with...and I also have 50+ alts that I play regularly. My altitis has nothing to do with trying to see content that I missed the first time though...I just *like playing lots of different characters*.
Some people are completists. That's how they have fun. And yet again someone is telling those people they're not having the right kind of fun. *sigh*
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I'm not saying that I like it, I'm just trying to make the best of it, thats all.
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Seriously? Because I still can't.
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You only can if you've already been offered the first mission in the arc. If you haven't, then no, you can't go back and get it.
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Yes, you can, and I have. You have to go talk to your contacts, in person (do not call), and if they have an arc that you never started and outlevelled, they will give it to you.
Based on this discussion i put together something that hopefully will help.
http://boards.cityofvillains.com/sho...part=1#4000850
I out leveled a contact in PO. I did a couple of missions and then he introduced me to "radio". I hope they do release something that allows us to complete the rest of story arcs.
Unless it changed recently, content is given based on security level (or threat level), not combat level. What this means is that if you are trying to get all the content that expires when you hit (for example) level 10, don't train up past 9. You can keep playing, queueing up level-ups, but for the purpose of offered content, you're still level 9, though mobs in missions will still scale to your combat level. The disadvantage, of course, is you're facing mobs with abilities scaled to the powers and slots you'd be expected to have at that level, so it can be a bit tougher in some cases.
(On an unrelated note - falloutdnb, your avatar owes me a new keyboard, this one has Dr. Pepper in it now.)
Tech support IRL, CLR/DRU/MED/WHM/PRI/DEF. Hmm, I sense a pattern...
S 80% E 80% A 40% K 0%
A few of my alts
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At minimum 3 arcs. There is Mr. Bocor he has an arc, Billy Heck has an arc, and um Angeleti? I think he has an arc. It appears the you can't get more than 1 maybe 2 of the arcs before out leveling them. I managed to get Mr. Bocor's and Billy Hecks done but I just finished Billy's at level 11 and now he won't talk to me.
It appears that Mr. Bocor gives you the radio at level 10. I finished his arcs at level 9 and he simply said to come back at level 10. When I remembered to contact him at level 11 he gave me the radio.
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I managed - through careful planning and avoiding fights as much as possible - to do Vendetti's arc plus his badge mission, Bocor's arc plus his badge mission, and both of Billy Heck's arcs by the time I hit level 10 and got introduced to the radio. I have heard some people say that both Bocor and Vendetti have a second arc as well, but I haven't seen them myself. Notably, Billy Heck's second arc - the one that gives the temp power - did NOT give a souvenir, although his first one did. I don't know if that's a bug or not (like I'm not sure if Mongoose is supposed to give a souvenir or not).
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