Global Chat Beta on Live Official Thread
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Acemace,
Posted on: 2005-02-09 11:04 in Developers' Corner
A few small problems:
Say my friend is Bob_Dole (not really :P)
using the gui - "_" is automatically deleted - Doesn't Work
/gfriend @bob_dole -doesn't work
/gfriend @Bob_Dole - does work
Why is the name case sensative but only(?) for names with an underscore?
I was logged on as Psythe and the game assigned me the chat handle "Arakhna".
It took me a minute but I realized that Arakhna isn't a character in the account I was playing in, but in our second account!
Weird.
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another fine example of throwing things out of test onto live without actually usuing data from test servers.
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You test a MULTI-server chat program on a SINGLE server, and we'll take your comments to heart. 
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You currently cannot make a channel name with a space in it.
Should you do so none of the associated channel commands will work and you'll essentialy have created a dead channel. Also names using an underscore produce the same result.
So if you create such a channel and then try to use send, invite, etc. you recieve a message saying that either the channel does not exist or your targeted global user does not exist.
The chat server went down on Virtue and when it came back up our channel was no more.
Would also like to see the ability to have a short command for chatting.
For example if I'm apart of three seperate channels, each one is assigned a number and I could then use /1, /2, or /3 for each respective channel to send a message quickly to said channel instead of having to type out a long string of syntax.
i have to say, im not impressed at all by this.
people randomly get booted, then the server dies and kills the channel. you have to type a whole sentance to talk to someone in a certain channel. the names they pulled were wrong. invite SG doesnt work right (make a new channel and invite SG, and you get errors that you already invited people... HOW?). you still have to do /chatbeta 1 (if its still a beta, why is it on live already?)
the only good freature i see is the global friend and ignore. i would have been happy to just have that... creating your own channels doesnt work at all.
So... We all enable global Chat, create a Channel and join it, and after all the tedious setting up (and changing of tabs) we get...
Channel does not exist - what gives??
Bugreported it.. I assume that the fact that you have to chatbeta 1 at each login means that you get booted from the channel at each login emptying it and killing it off [or are all channels destroyed every time chat goes offline]. Also I lost default chat handle for non-board-grabbed account upon rewriting chatbeta with a new character on it
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I saw a bug when the Chat Server "crashed" for a few minutes on Pinnacle earlier (ie: I couldnt do anything in GC).
Right after it "crashed" and came back, ALL channels and people on the Global Friends list were missing. How often the GC "server" crashes is unknown but this could become a real pain if its not fixed where we have to keep reinviting people to GFriends list and recreating the channels.
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Quick follow-up post.
Yes - we had issues with the message board name pull we did yesterday and some people did not get their reserved names. However, we just fixed it so your name should be what your forum name was at 11 am yesterday.
That is why GC went down and handles and channels were lost - we reverted it and applied the correct reserved name list. This is not something that can happen with a random crash.
Yes, its still beta. When you have a system that crosses all servers, the best way to beta test it is across all servers. That is why it is still beta and still something you have to turn on with the /chatbeta switch. If you don't want to play with the beta version, you do not have to. When it is out of beta it will be on all the time.
Also, I just verified that the test server IS included in global chat (by joining the Kill Skuls channel from Test)- so if you are on Test you can chat with your friends on live. Woot!
Keep reporting bugs! Thanks!
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i have to say, im not impressed at all by this.
people randomly get booted, then the server dies and kills the channel. you have to type a whole sentance to talk to someone in a certain channel. the names they pulled were wrong. invite SG doesnt work right (make a new channel and invite SG, and you get errors that you already invited people... HOW?). you still have to do /chatbeta 1 (if its still a beta, why is it on live already?)
the only good freature i see is the global friend and ignore. i would have been happy to just have that... creating your own channels doesnt work at all.
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Once again...try testing a MULTI-server chat on a SINGLE server. That's why it's /chatbeta, and not /chatFINAL. I've already created channels, and I'm currently in "Kill Skuls" -- yes, with a space. CuppaJo just stopped in too. It works.
Now if you don't want to chat/test/be DC'd, do /chatbeat 0
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Is that PDF not showing up for anyone else? All I'm getting is a white screen.
I'm also having trouble with the PDF. Adobe Reader (7.0, just reinstalled today to make sure its current) gives the following error message:
"The file is damaged and could not be repaired."
Then, after I click out of the error message I'm left with a blank browser window.
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You currently cannot make a channel name with a space in it.
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You need to use " around the channel name to access a channel with a space in the name when using / commands.
So to send to the Kill Skuls channel you'd need to do:
/send "Kill Skuls"<message>
I am pretty sure that the errors when inviting a SG saying that you've already invited people comes from people with alts. I had the same thing happen to me, and noticed that it was listing people who had more than one character in the SG.
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omg she didn't... she didn't...
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(by joining the Kill Skuls channel from Test)
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She did!
CuppaJo said "Kill Skuls!"
*runs in terror* 
I had a bit of a bug. Logged into chat, and got an invite to join a channel (by someone I had global friended). I accepted.
Then made a new tab and added the channel.
At this point, I could select other tabs, but it was always defaulting to sending messages to the global chat channel. It didn't matter which tab I had selected.
This was fixed by selecting 'A' from the bottom of the chat window, to make it default to the right channel for the active tab. However, it's going to be a pain to set this manually every time. The active tab option should be the default when people join channels.
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Quick follow-up post.
Yes - we had issues with the message board name pull we did yesterday and some people did not get their reserved names. However, we just fixed it so your name should be what your forum name was at 11 am yesterday.
That is why GC went down and handles and channels were lost - we reverted it and applied the correct reserved name list. This is not something that can happen with a random crash.
Yes, its still beta. When you have a system that crosses all servers, the best way to beta test it is across all servers. That is why it is still beta and still something you have to turn on with the /chatbeta switch. If you don't want to play with the beta version, you do not have to. When it is out of beta it will be on all the time.
Also, I just verified that the test server IS included in global chat (by joining the Kill Skuls channel from Test)- so if you are on Test you can chat with your friends on live. Woot!
Keep reporting bugs! Thanks!
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Woo hoo! That's right, I talked to CuppaJo on the Kill Skuls channel and threatened to throw articles of clothing!
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Ok, maybe that isn't something to be *proud* of, but it was nice to see a "red name" in game.
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omg she didn't... she didn't...
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(by joining the Kill Skuls channel from Test)
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She did!
CuppaJo said "Kill Skuls!"
*runs in terror*
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Not only that, she chatted in the channel.
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Is that PDF not showing up for anyone else? All I'm getting is a white screen.
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Had no trouble with it whatsoever.
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Is that PDF not showing up for anyone else? All I'm getting is a white screen.
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PDF is fine, it is Acrobat 4.0 compatable; nothing fancy. Possibly a connection issue? It is not a linearized PDF, so it will have to wait for the entire file to load before it presents in the browser.
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Quick follow-up post.
Yes - we had issues with the message board name pull we did yesterday and some people did not get their reserved names. However, we just fixed it so your name should be what your forum name was at 11 am yesterday.
That is why GC went down and handles and channels were lost - we reverted it and applied the correct reserved name list. This is not something that can happen with a random crash.
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Well, I do have to thank the people who did that, oddly enough! Someone on Pinnacle created chat channels with my SG's name and needless to say, were private and unable to find out who..but then the light came with a complete wipe and thus, We got our SG's name for the channel
/em walks off wondering why I told that story 
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I found another small bug. Under global friends list, where it shows what map they are on, it says the filename for the map, not the mission name.
Example: Someone right now is on Outdoor_Forest_01c.txt when it should be saying the mission name I'd think?
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great, so i wasted my name change.
ill try back on this when its FINAL... this is too frustrating ATM.
thanks for the info cuppa
PS... please tell me this is gonna get a LOT more user friendly 
Can anyone tell me how I can invite my SG to a channel? I have created the channel, but Supergroup is grayed out in the invite menu. Why?
From how I understand it, you need to be a SG leader to be able to do SG invite.
Keep getting "file damaged" as well. Why the PDF format, anyway? Or at least a listing of the slash commands available in a regular HTML doc? 300+K on a 33.6Kbps connection isn't fun, especially when I have already repeatedly tried to download the file.
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Is it possilble to global friend or global ignore someone without knowing there chat handle. Lets say I'm on infinity and want to global ingore someone on infinity but don't know their chat handle is there a way to just use their character name to global ignore or global friend them.
The reason I ask is, it would be kind of wierd asking for someones chat handle so you can ignore all their characters if they are bothering you.
I quickly read through the global chat guide so maybe I missed it, but I tried to global ignore someone using their chracter name, that didn't work, so is there another way?