What is left to add after City of Villains?
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13th_Stranger,
Posted on: 2005-01-10 13:24 in CoH and CoV General Discussions
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There's plenty of room left to grow...
Far future heroes
Spy organizations
Pulp
Magical world
etc.
etc.
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DAMN YOU JACK - at this rate i will never get my SOUL back!!!
I got all a tizzy with Pulp and Magical Worlds - and i already have 2 Spy characters in the game - cant wait to see how that one is done!
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Pulp?
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The recent movie 'Sky Captain and the World of Tomorrow' is a fair replica of the pulp genre. So is almost anything with a title involving a character name, a scenario, and an exclamation point at the end:
Doc Savage and the Prehistoric Island!
The Man of Bronze visits the Spook Hole!
...and so on.
Initial pulp novels usually centered around a single, mostly superhuman protagonist, though these were all what City Of Heroes would consider 'natural'. Superhero stories involving other types of heroes also got their start around this time in comics.
It is characterized by a generally rosy outlook sociologically - the hero is pretty much guaranteed to win, science will eventually triumph over all ills, and such. Science often plays a large role in stories but it is often painted with a very broad brush: The 'Power of The Atom' did it!
Incidentally, I've always been amused by the parallels with Doc Savage and Superman. Doc Savage is The Man of Bronze, and occasionally retires to his Fortress of Solitude, whose location nobody else knows, but at which he keeps some of the greatest marvels known to man. Heh.
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Pulp
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I'm holding you to that, States. 
I would LOVE to do Pulp stuff...but would it sell? That's the issue.
Doc Savage. The Shadow. Agent 13. *shudders* Such great potential from the Pulp world.
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I would LOVE to do Pulp stuff...but would it sell? That's the issue.
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Yes, Yes it would.
Quickly now! 
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I would LOVE to do Pulp stuff...but would it sell? That's the issue.
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Well, if you're going to do far future, then why not 1920s?
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Doc Savage. The Shadow. Agent 13. *shudders* Such great potential from the Pulp world.
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Two out of three of those have been filmed. 
And as has been pointed out, the recent Sky Captain and the World of Tomorrow is in the pulp genre. It would be ever so film noir to do a pulp game - metropolis skylines, prohibition, blimps, high adventure... for heaven's sake, what's Indiana Jones if not pure pulp?
City of Shadows?
I think I was one of the very few people who played the White Wolf game Adventure!. Great genre, and meshes very well with the current hero world. There's already a lot of history developed into Paragon City (read your plaques!) and this would really help flesh it out.
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I would LOVE to do Pulp stuff...but would it sell? That's the issue.
Doc Savage. The Shadow. Agent 13. *shudders* Such great potential from the Pulp world.
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You really want a game that sells? Spend the money for some licenses and do City of Clones. Every hero age 14 and under will flock to the stores.
Here's a few more instant successes:
City of DragonBall
City of Pokemon
City of Small Female Cats
City of WOOT
City of Jedis (my bad... it's being done as we speak)
City of Crafting (200k+ people all sitting in separate rooms)
And the best selling game of all time in the single male demographic:
City of Beer and Boobies!
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I would LOVE to do Pulp stuff...but would it sell? That's the issue.
Doc Savage. The Shadow. Agent 13. *shudders* Such great potential from the Pulp world.
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You give me a triplane, John Sunlight, and Pat Savage as a sidekick in this game, and I write you a blank check.
Seriously, the Midnight Squad backstory has the most potential as a starting point. I'll take one portal to a 1930's zone please, with 30's and pulp hero contacts, and large cars with running boards. The Family will be there, the 5th will have a new home, throw in some Tsoo, and some new villains of course. Meet you there in 4 months for a beer.
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I would LOVE to do Pulp stuff...but would it sell? That's the issue.
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In my opinion, heck yes. It's a genre hardly touched upon in games, much less an mmorpg. I think there's a LOT of people looking for just such a thing. I can tell by the amount of pulp/noirish type characters i run across in the game and not too many RPers I know could resist a concept like that.
And who isn't curious about what Paragon was like to live in the 20s and 30s?
Pulp, mixed with Horror (Lovecraft) and Sci-Fantasy (Burroughs/Howard, etc) could work, with an option for a straight "Chandler" experience too.
Hope to see it, even if it is just a small "add on world" to Paragon City.
muffinlad
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Pulp?
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The recent movie 'Sky Captain and the World of Tomorrow' is a fair replica of the pulp genre. So is almost anything with a title involving a character name, a scenario, and an exclamation point at the end:
Doc Savage and the Prehistoric Island!
The Man of Bronze visits the Spook Hole!
...and so on.
Initial pulp novels usually centered around a single, mostly superhuman protagonist, though these were all what City Of Heroes would consider 'natural'. Superhero stories involving other types of heroes also got their start around this time in comics.
It is characterized by a generally rosy outlook sociologically - the hero is pretty much guaranteed to win, science will eventually triumph over all ills, and such. Science often plays a large role in stories but it is often painted with a very broad brush: The 'Power of The Atom' did it!
Incidentally, I've always been amused by the parallels with Doc Savage and Superman. Doc Savage is The Man of Bronze, and occasionally retires to his Fortress of Solitude, whose location nobody else knows, but at which he keeps some of the greatest marvels known to man. Heh.
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I'm Doctor Why and I approved this message.
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Cool! Thanks for the info Doc, I have an AR/DEV blaster on Liberty that would fit beautifully into a pulp type expansion!
Tell Ubelmann that the Red Jackal is gunning for him.
"I am a Tank. I am your first choice, I am your last hope." -- Rune Bull
"Durability is the quintessential super-power. " -- Sailboat
I know a comic called PS238 did a comic recently about one of the "first" super heros from it's world, talking about how he was just a guy (with superman like powers) helping out in WW2 agenst the Nazis and then went on to help snuff out comunisim then saw how corupted the anti-communist movement was and had to go into hiding and start wearing disguises as he worked agenst these negitive parts of the goverment so to protect his family.
How about an old west dimension?
Would it sell? If you promise to add pulp features, I'll pay for two copies. Right now. January 10th, 2005, for a promise alone. Full retail.
Please?
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There's plenty of room left to grow...
Far future heroes
Spy organizations
Pulp
Magical world
etc.
etc.
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I'd love to see a zone with a comedy slant (I *adored* the Inferior Five).
CoH could add cat people fighting snake people on the moon and it would make sense for the genre. Unlike some other game :/
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I would LOVE to do Pulp stuff...but would it sell? That's the issue.
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They said Superheroes wouldn't sell, didn't they?
Personally, I'd be far more interested in pulp CoH than in CoH itself.
I don't play a radiation blast defender for nothing... (emits rays from his eyes)
FWIW, I also played Adventure. This character is listed as the Scarab in the Playtester credits.
I always through the architecture of Paragon City had a pulp feel to it...
I like the mercenary idea. Have a type of super powered person who is neither doing it for good or evil, just for money, and who will work for either side, whoever pays him/her more. Someone who can change allegiances on a whim. This would be a great addition after CoV comes out.
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I would LOVE to do Pulp stuff...but would it sell? That's the issue.
Doc Savage. The Shadow. Agent 13. *shudders* Such great potential from the Pulp world.
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I would LOVE to have pulp stuff. One of my original hopes was to have servers with different flavors to them, Pulp, Space, Gritty, Four Color, etc. If I could play a natural that FELT like a Natural, I would really love it. How many powers can you really justify as natural and not Tech, Mystic or science?
Mike
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.... I'll take one portal to a 1930's zone please, with 30's and pulp hero contacts, and large cars with running boards. The Family will be there, the 5th will have a new home, throw in some Tsoo, and some new villains of course. Meet you there in 4 months for a beer.
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This is very much what I was thinking when I was skimming this thread at work. I'd love this.
And a comedy world -- that would be great too.
Actually there is a company out there attempting to enter the pulp hero market and it does have some potential. I'm surer it would sell but of course the question is will it have holding power to keep customers coming back for more.
Hell I remember when people said a Super Hero MMO wouldn't sell or be popular
Would pulp stuff sell?? Sorry to disappoint, Statesman, but you probably won't be getting my money for it... I play at odd times, so when my friends aren't available to team with, I prefer to solo.
Each update seems to suck more and more solo fun out of the game for me. The less fun there is, the less I want to play... the less I play, the less I will want to explore new content. You are boring me with this need to rely on teamwork or hunt blue and green con foes in the streets!!
Goes to show that pesimism gets the devs attention. I like the concept of some time-travel you mentioned there Jack. Maybe having alternate time periods that influence one another would be nice. If you ever played some of the Zelda games by Nintendo such as 'Oracle of Ages' or the world famous 'Ocarina of Time' then you'd know the popularity of having quests that can only be solved with time traveling.