spiritfox

I thought most powers wouldn't stack debuffs from the same caster, just refresh? Like Rad/ will stack debuff from its individual blasts together but not multiple debuffs from the same caster same power.

If that IS true, then its got to be acid mortar because its the only power I know of that can stack itself twice on the same target.

Update me, I can't seem to find a wiki article about it.

You're going the wrong way about it. Masterminds are better at killing large numbers of even Cons than small numbers of higher cons. Instead of +2x0 you should be running at +0x4-6. I started running my thugs/traps at x4 when I got the bruiser, and x6 when I got upgrade. Pets were soft capped by level 35 and moved up to x8. You've got an AoE set, give them something to AoE.

The only thing I've really thought about changing is proccing out hot feet. Obliteration is there purely for the melee defense. The thing about my build, is that its not really a farm build. I thought I said that, but I think I meant to and forgot. My build is more of a general "can do everything relatively well" option. I can team, I can farm up there with some of the better fire/kin builds, I can solo AVs. I can't do any of these things as well as a dedicated build could, but I CAN manage all of them.

I only jump on my fire/kin once in a blue moon these days, I'm almost about to delete him to make room for a Warshade, as I farm on melee toons these days. My fire/SD scrapper just feels like it farms 10 times faster than my fire/kin, build up + SC + FSC kills pretty much an entire spawn minus the bosses, and I've got a pretty strong single target chain as Fire/ so the bosses only have seconds left when the animations finish.

I got the Regen Tissue IO for 5k influence because someone listed it cheap, where as a 50 numina's like 20 mill and I have alts to feed, so I don't particularly care. Though, there's absolutely no reason I need to buy another purple for a build that doesn't need additional recharge. Occasionally getting char from 2.5 to 2.2 seconds recharge or shaving a half a second off of Fissure or Seismic smash really isn't going to make a ton of difference.

And I never said anything like perfect. I just said my build is damn sight better than the OP's. Hell, I still am trying to figure out where I can work ID into the build because I love having it for teaming, makes me feel more useful.

Pretty much this.

The ability to lay down a trap field and wormhole most of a spawn into it sounds like something that would make me cackle with glee constantly. My bots/traps is my favorite character, there's nothing like jumping into a spawn and web grenading people as they try to flee the carnage.

I wonder if you could perma an illusion/traps. Not having AM would hurt, but thats only 30% recharge you have to make up. Gravitational anchor in web grenade plus six slotting FFG with a LotG and five Red Fortunes would get you 22% of the way there. Poison trap could take unbreakable constraint for EM pulse, Seekers could take dark watcher's despair for RI, Triage becon could take Doctored wounds for RA, if only there were an easy way to pull some recharge out of poison trap. On the other hand, you could take a slot or two out of poison trap, just keep its recharge up, put it in caltrops, and slot Positrons blast there if you had too. You could five slot positron, put in an armageddon proc, and you'd still have two damage procs in caltrops to help you out.

You could get it damned close. You might be right at the 63 second mark, but with superior invis, your FFG, Rock Armor, and a Phantasm you could probably survive even against an AV or GM with a few seconds lag time.

Being able to blow up a decoy would be insanely powerful, probably far past any mark of "reasonable" considering the fact that they cycle once a minute and generally perfer melee. You could just blow up a decoy five seconds before every resummon, and with the recharge you'd already have you could probably do it every two minutes or so. Blowing up a phantasm... meh. I'd rather see them get friggin gun drone. Imagine illus/traps with a gun drone.

First, your build is terrible. Your defenses are too low, and so is your accuracy. You slotted char for damage when you have fulcrum shift. Your imps aren't at the ED cap for damage, which is pointless and will slow you down if you miss a FS or wind up fighting an AV. Your positional defenses are alot weaker than they have to be. You slotted out tough when those slots are badly needed elsewhere (like more accuracy on siphon speed)

Your native endurance recovery sucks, as does alot of your slotting, for Christs sake alot of your bread and butters have NO endurance reduction in them, which means you'll be blowing through endurance like crazy and missing one transferrence can completely screw your rythm (or get you killed).

You slotted 98% defense buff into Weave. I'm not even going to get into that ****.

You took smoke over flashfire. Yeah, tohit is nice. Stunned mobs don't attack you at all. And slowed, they don't walk very far either.

You slotted out boxing. What the hell were you thinking? You have less than 20% to all positional defenses, why in Gods name would you slot out boxing for a positional defense bonus when you're not going to continue slotting other things for positional defense?

You called for builds. Here's mine.

Hero Plan by Mids' Hero Designer 1.601
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Level 50 Mutation Controller
Primary Power Set: Fire Control
Secondary Power Set: Kinetics
Power Pool: Leaping
Power Pool: Fitness
Power Pool: Fighting
Power Pool: Concealment
Ancillary Pool: Stone Mastery

Hero Profile:
Level 1: Char -- UbrkCons-Hold(A), UbrkCons-Hold/Rchg(3), UbrkCons-Acc/Hold/Rchg(3), UbrkCons-Acc/Rchg(5), UbrkCons-EndRdx/Hold(5), Lock-%Hold(36)
Level 1: Transfusion -- Dct'dW-Heal/EndRdx/Rchg(A), Dct'dW-Heal(7), Dct'dW-Rchg(7), Dct'dW-Heal/EndRdx(9), Dct'dW-EndRdx/Rchg(9), Acc-I(40)
Level 2: Fire Cages -- Enf'dOp-Acc/Immob(A), Enf'dOp-Acc/Rchg(11), Enf'dOp-EndRdx/Immob(11), Enf'dOp-Acc/EndRdx(13), Enf'dOp-Acc/Immob/Rchg(13), Enf'dOp-Immob/Rng(37)
Level 4: Siphon Power -- Acc-I(A)
Level 6: Combat Jumping -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A), Zephyr-Travel(17), Zephyr-Travel/EndRdx(40), Zephyr-ResKB(40)
Level 8: Hurdle -- Jump-I(A)
Level 10: Siphon Speed -- RechRdx-I(A), Acc-I(37), RechRdx-I(43), Acc-I(46)
Level 12: Kick -- Acc-I(A)
Level 14: Stealth -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A), LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx(15), LkGmblr-Def(15)
Level 16: Flashfire -- Amaze-EndRdx/Stun(A), Amaze-Stun(17), Amaze-Stun/Rchg(19), Amaze-Acc/Stun/Rchg(19), Amaze-Acc/Rchg(21)
Level 18: Health -- Numna-Regen/Rcvry+(A), Mrcl-Rcvry+(21), RgnTis-Regen+(23)
Level 20: Stamina -- P'Shift-EndMod(A), P'Shift-End%(23), EndMod-I(25)
Level 22: Speed Boost -- EndMod-I(A)
Level 24: Hot Feet -- Oblit-%Dam(A), Oblit-Dmg(25), Oblit-Acc/Rchg(27), Oblit-Dmg/Rchg(27), Oblit-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(29), Oblit-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(29)
Level 26: Cinders -- Lock-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg/Hold(A), Lock-%Hold(31), Lock-Acc/Rchg(31), Lock-Acc/Hold(31), Lock-EndRdx/Rchg/Hold(34), Lock-Rchg/Hold(37)
Level 28: Tough -- S'fstPrt-ResDam/Def+(A)
Level 30: Weave -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A), LkGmblr-Def(46), LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx(46)
Level 32: Fire Imps -- BldM'dt-Acc/Dmg(A), BldM'dt-Dmg/EndRdx(33), BldM'dt-Acc(33), BldM'dt-Acc/EndRdx(33), BldM'dt-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(34), BldM'dt-Dmg(34)
Level 35: Transference -- Efficacy-EndMod/Acc(A), Efficacy-EndMod/Rchg(36), Efficacy-EndMod/Acc/Rchg(36)
Level 38: Fulcrum Shift -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(39), EndRdx-I(39), Acc-I(39), Acc-I(43)
Level 41: Fissure -- Ragnrk-Dmg(A), Ragnrk-Dmg/Rchg(42), Ragnrk-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(42), Ragnrk-Dmg/EndRdx(42), Ragnrk-Acc/Rchg(43)
Level 44: Rock Armor -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A), LkGmblr-Def(45), LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx(45), LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(45)
Level 47: Seismic Smash -- Lock-EndRdx/Rchg/Hold(A), Lock-Rchg/Hold(48), Lock-Acc/Rchg(48), Lock-Acc/Hold(48), Lock-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg/Hold(50), Lock-%Hold(50)
Level 49: Earth's Embrace -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(50)
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Level 1: Brawl -- Acc-I(A)
Level 1: Sprint -- Run-I(A)
Level 2: Rest -- Heal-I(A)
Level 1: Containment
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Set Bonus Totals:

• 9% DamageBuff(Smashing)
• 9% DamageBuff(Lethal)
• 9% DamageBuff(Fire)
• 9% DamageBuff(Cold)
• 9% DamageBuff(Energy)
• 9% DamageBuff(Negative)
• 9% DamageBuff(Toxic)
• 9% DamageBuff(Psionic)
• 8.94% Defense(Smashing)
• 8.94% Defense(Lethal)
• 10.8% Defense(Fire)
• 10.8% Defense(Cold)
• 10.2% Defense(Energy)
• 10.2% Defense(Negative)
• 3% Defense(Psionic)
• 11.1% Defense(Melee)
• 17.4% Defense(Ranged)
• 15.8% Defense(AoE)
• 3% Enhancement(Immobilize)
• 63% Enhancement(Accuracy)
• 5% Enhancement(Held)
• 4% Enhancement(Heal)
• 73.8% Enhancement(RechargeTime)
• 5% FlySpeed
• 45.8 HP (4.5%) HitPoints
• 5% JumpHeight
• 5% JumpSpeed
• Knockback (Mag -4)
• Knockup (Mag -4)
• MezResist(Held) 4.4%
• MezResist(Stun) 3.85%
• MezResist(Terrorized) 2.2%
• 15% (0.25 End/sec) Recovery
• 30% (1.27 HP/sec) Regeneration
• 8.82% Resistance(Fire)
• 8.82% Resistance(Cold)
• 1.88% Resistance(Negative)
• 5% RunSpeed

This is my fire/kin build.

I do more damage, and can take more damage than you. I managed to slot well enough to not need hasten, and instead have speed boost to help others (making my build more team friendly) and can stack holds on harder targets much more easily than you thanks to slotting char for hold. I am capable of stacking enough holds with this build to perma hold an AV through purple triangles with seismic smash and char (though it obviously takes some time to get there). I can immobilize an AV (with my long *** AoE immob) long enough to stack holds from outside PBAoE range, darting in between attacks for seismic smashes, I've got 33% ranged defense and softcapped S/L to back that up.

I've got better endurance management, meaning transference is a way to maintain my endurance rather than a part of my attack chain that can devastate me if it misses, and you can't make me believe that you have no trouble hitting +4 EBs and AVs with a FS not slotted for any ACC at all. Why in Gods name are you slotting out transferrence that far when you could drop those slots into FS for much greater overall effect? You won't miss that 5% recharge, I promise.

Hell, you took swift. How damned retarded do you have to be to take a run speed power on a build that can put itself up to about double the run speed cap without it? Hurdle + Ninja Run is half of super jump, and you've got siphon for the straight line running.

My build may not be the end all be all, but its far superior to yours, farms more smoothly, and is better both solo and on a team.

It would be so easy to fix too.

They could give us both. How hard would it be to make every upgrade appear twice, or even just give us a way to macro a single target upgrade for when we need it.

Or, they could do an AoE target check on power cast. For every unupgraded minion in range, it takes off 7 end (since its 42 to upgrade all 6 unenhanced). Resummon one minion, target any of them, hit it, and it finds one minion, upgrades it, and costs 7 endurance.

Bam, Fixed. But MM quality of life seems to be pretty low on their priorities now that they listened to a problem and half ***** a solution.

Everyone who has problems with pets coming into elevators, try what this guy said. I had them get stuck in a doorway the other day, and realized it was because they couldn't clip through me to come completely into the room. I had to resummon four of my bots, first time it happened in a while.

Elevators are probably the same. If the bots don't have room to pop in, they get stuck. Just like the seekers and the prot bots had the same similar problem. Get out of their way, and they might well not get stuck, I'm generally running around enough that I don't ever seem to have the stuck problems, and when I do its usually just one bot. They never get stuck in elevators generally, usually i have my problems at mission entrances.

I personally would love to hear more about this (Non sarcstic)

I've got this build kicking around. Its got aid self, which I've found is an absolute must on melee toons with soft capped defenses. My Claws/SR brute took that power at 26 and has used it constantly since then, being able to heal myself close to half my hitpoints in about a second is a godsend (and you can move once the heal actually goes off if need be, so you can heal while fleeing if you get 2 sec breathing room)

This is my build, and I'll admit its entirely theory. My fire/SD is 22 right now and I'm following this build to the letter so far.

Evaluations and ideas would be great.

Hero Plan by Mids' Hero Designer 1.601
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Level 50 Magic Scrapper
Primary Power Set: Fiery Melee
Secondary Power Set: Shield Defense
Power Pool: Leaping
Power Pool: Fitness
Power Pool: Medicine
Power Pool: Fighting

Hero Profile:
Level 1: Fire Sword -- T'Death-Dam%(A), T'Death-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(3), T'Death-Dmg/Rchg(3), T'Death-Dmg/EndRdx(5), T'Death-Acc/Dmg(5), T'Death-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(7)
Level 1: Deflection -- RedFtn-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(A), RedFtn-Def/Rchg(7), RedFtn-Def/EndRdx(9), RedFtn-Def(9), ResDam-I(11), ResDam-I(11)
Level 2: Cremate -- T'Death-Dam%(A), T'Death-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(31), T'Death-Dmg/EndRdx(31), T'Death-Acc/Dmg(34), T'Death-Dmg/Rchg(37), T'Death-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(39)
Level 4: True Grit -- Heal-I(A), Heal-I(13), ResDam-I(13), ResDam-I(15)
Level 6: Battle Agility -- RedFtn-EndRdx(A), RedFtn-Def(15), RedFtn-Def/EndRdx(17), RedFtn-Def/Rchg(17), RedFtn-EndRdx/Rchg(19), RedFtn-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(19)
Level 8: Combat Jumping -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A), Zephyr-Travel(27), Zephyr-Travel/EndRdx(27), Zephyr-ResKB(31)
Level 10: Active Defense -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(21)
Level 12: Build Up -- GSFC-Build%(A), GSFC-ToHit/EndRdx(21), GSFC-ToHit/Rchg(23), GSFC-ToHit/Rchg/EndRdx(23), GSFC-Rchg/EndRdx(25), GSFC-ToHit(25)
Level 14: Super Jump -- Zephyr-Travel(A), Zephyr-Travel/EndRdx(29), Zephyr-ResKB(29)
Level 16: Against All Odds -- EndRdx-I(A)
Level 18: Fire Sword Circle -- EndRdx-I(A), Sciroc-Acc/Dmg(39), Sciroc-Dmg/Rchg(39), Sciroc-Acc/Rchg(40), Sciroc-Dmg/EndRdx(40), Sciroc-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(40)
Level 20: Hurdle -- Jump-I(A)
Level 22: Health -- Numna-Regen/Rcvry+(A), Mrcl-Rcvry+(42), RgnTis-Regen+(42)
Level 24: Stamina -- P'Shift-End%(A), P'Shift-EndMod(42), EndMod-I(43)
Level 26: Incinerate -- Mako-Dam%(A), Mako-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(43), Mako-Dmg/Rchg(43), Mako-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg(45), Mako-Dmg/EndRdx(45), Mako-Acc/Dmg(45)
Level 28: Aid Other -- Heal-I(A)
Level 30: Aid Self -- Dct'dW-Heal(A), Dct'dW-Heal/EndRdx(46), Dct'dW-EndRdx/Rchg(46), Dct'dW-Heal/Rchg(46), Dct'dW-Heal/EndRdx/Rchg(50)
Level 32: Greater Fire Sword -- Hectmb-Dam%(A), Hectmb-Dmg/EndRdx(33), Hectmb-Dmg/Rchg(33), Hectmb-Dmg(33), Hectmb-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(34), Hectmb-Acc/Rchg(34)
Level 35: Shield Charge -- Oblit-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(A), Oblit-%Dam(36), Oblit-Dmg(36), Oblit-Dmg/Rchg(36), Oblit-Acc/Rchg(37), Oblit-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(37)
Level 38: Phalanx Fighting -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A)
Level 41: Kick -- Acc-I(A)
Level 44: Tough -- S'fstPrt-ResDam/Def+(A)
Level 47: Weave -- RedFtn-Def(A), RedFtn-EndRdx(48), RedFtn-Def/EndRdx(48), RedFtn-EndRdx/Rchg(48), RedFtn-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(50), LkGmblr-Rchg+(50)
Level 49: Grant Cover -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A)
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Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Sprint -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Critical Hit
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Set Bonus Totals:

• 19.5% DamageBuff(Smashing)
• 19.5% DamageBuff(Lethal)
• 19.5% DamageBuff(Fire)
• 19.5% DamageBuff(Cold)
• 19.5% DamageBuff(Energy)
• 19.5% DamageBuff(Negative)
• 19.5% DamageBuff(Toxic)
• 19.5% DamageBuff(Psionic)
• 9.88% Defense(Smashing)
• 9.88% Defense(Lethal)
• 8.94% Defense(Fire)
• 8.94% Defense(Cold)
• 10.5% Defense(Energy)
• 10.5% Defense(Negative)
• 3% Defense(Psionic)
• 16.8% Defense(Melee)
• 18% Defense(Ranged)
• 14.9% Defense(AoE)
• 33% Enhancement(Accuracy)
• 60% Enhancement(RechargeTime)
• 4% Enhancement(Heal)
• 10% FlySpeed
• 85.3 HP (6.37%) HitPoints
• 10% JumpHeight
• 10% JumpSpeed
• Knockback (Mag -8)
• Knockup (Mag -8)
• MezResist(Held) 8.8%
• MezResist(Immobilize) 15.4%
• MezResist(Stun) 2.2%
• MezResist(Terrorized) 2.2%
• 6.5% (0.11 End/sec) Recovery
• 10% (0.56 HP/sec) Regeneration
• 7.56% Resistance(Fire)
• 7.56% Resistance(Cold)
• 3.13% Resistance(Negative)
• 5% Resistance(Toxic)
• 10% RunSpeed

I don't think its so much that he's angry as it is he's semi-illiterate.

I just wanted to comment you should never, ever, be taking the alpha as bots/traps. I got seekers down to 45 second recharge by level 35, thats what they're there for and they're ******* amazing at it. If you're killing mobs in less than 45 seconds, your difficulty is not high enough.

This is about as perfect as I could imagine.

I think claws is the superior AoE damage primary, because no matter what you say its got three high damage attacks and no rage crashing, and shockwave is something I use constantly. If there's a wall to punt things to, I punt them, and then keep them on their backs up against a corner. But SS is a much better set when you're running with a squishier team, especially pug teams post 32 where someone's leveling their first character. My SS/SD feels ten times more survivable, considering that enemies get off less than half the attacks they usually would and still only have a 5% chance to hit.

The one thing I have to say about kill speed, yeah you can take things out a little faster as SS on a large team running normal missions. Considering how quickly a large team of villains can decimate a regular mission spawn, I don't think that really matters. Unless you're on a team full of stalkers and you, the spawns going to die in less than 20 seconds. On harder targets, SS offers no mitigation whatsoever, while claws at least offers defense debuffs to help hitting it and killing it faster.

I highly recommend SS/SD. Easily soft cappable, very respectable defense debuff resistance, and Shield Charge is a great opener. Holds aggro alot better than /SR as well for when you're teaming.

I really just can't see them doing this. I quit playing when Enhancement Diversification hit, and I looked long and hard at CoH before resubbing, only joining back up when I heard that no longer was the game ruled by that stupid *** "Player = 3 minions" formula they were going for that completely destroyed the fun "I am half a God" feeling that this game could evoke at times.

Kicking defense in the teeth and universally nerfing the classes would lose them a pretty significant percentage of the playerbase, which they've already done more than once. The servers I used to play on are dead now most of the time, only Freedom really still feels like CoH used to socially.

I doubt seriously they're going to do anything to piss off the playerbase without alot of forethought and probably some announcement ahead of time.

On topic, I honestly didn't like melee ATs in this game until I tried brutes. My claws/SR is my second favorite character, and I'm considering a fire/shield sometime soon. The difference between brutes and scrappers is like the difference between playing Bruce Lee or the Juggernaut. There's something cathartic about a class that makes you think "My blue bar is growing and my red bar is shrinking. This is a problem."

Roughly.

Damage wouldn't be your problem, survivability would be. Your arsonist dies to a stiff breeze, and there goes your missile patch. Lose an enforcer to an unlucky shot early in a spawn and you stand a good chance of dying, or at least having to retreat as your pets cascade failure. Bots have a severe advantage over thugs in that the set is incredibly top heavy, and the assbot is pretty durable, plus he's easily soft-cappable. Losing a minion happens to me all the time, and I never drop battle drones mid battle unless they all three die, because the amount of damage I'm losing is usually miniscule.