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Which means it's definately going in.

If you like Doc Buzzsaw's arc, you have to run Vernon von Grun once you get to level 45.

EDIT: and don't forget to say hi to Becky, the Tarantula Mistress! (better you than me...)

Swapping builds recharges every power you have. That could be somewhat exploitable, if allowed anywhere - particularly during a mission - and on a relatively short recharge.

And I would like to issue an apology to Scythus, since I did go back and check more than just the past few replies. I should've gone back a bit further, but while I could set aside Sam's responses due to prior name recognition (and the white and red avatar) I didn't have a similar mental link with Scythus. The obnoxious and insulting responses I remembered from the first two pages of the thread were from someone else, and they blurred together after a few pages to where I responded to the one who was still posting.

I may not like making mistakes, but at least I'm willing to admit to them.

So my opinion that "you're stupid" is not flamebait as well, then. I don't care how you react, I merely think that you're not nearly as creative as you think you are, and that your expression of disdain for someone who doesn't fit into your narrow definition of "How Things Should Be(tm)" shows a rigidity of thought which is to be highly discouraged.

It's also my opinion that every time I see one of your posts in this thread that it serves only to belittle or demean someone, but apparently you're merely expressing your opinion. Thus, since that's not an issue, I decided to express my own.

Based on this criteria, any well-played Storm (as well as many other debuff sets). Herd them together, keep them there long enough to be killed, if anything gets out toss (/taunt) it back in.

"Tanking" is a very loose criteria, and if the idea is just to grab aggro and get people to stand in a tight spot for 10 seconds at a time so the AoEs can destroy the spawn anyone can do it. My Fire/Fire/Fire Blaster does a remarkable job at collecting aggro, inspirations keep me alive through it, and any nearby corner means everything is bunched.

*shrug* The charts make assumptions, some of which I disagree with. I'm curious how the single target damage accounts for Voltaic Sentinel's contributions, since it doesn't necessarily shoot the single target you want it to.

And Ice Blast is in a far lower position than it should be - for Corruptors at least, where the animations on the single target chain are 1 sec, 1 sec, and 1.07 sec for Bolt/Blast/BIB. Given decent recharge, it's very close to Fire (and higher if you don't give the DoT time to burn out on Blaze) for single target.

But I'd imagine that everybody forgets about Ice Blast anyway, since there are posts here saying how wonderful it is to have a hold at low level on a Blaster. How about one 4 levels earlier, that has a shorter recharge and instead of requiring heavy slotting to permahold a lt, can permahold a boss with the same slotting?

And yet, the Tanker's Shield Charge (and base damage) is still higher damage than a Brute's - and the contribution of AAO is completely washed out in Fury and rendered irrelevant when you consider any set with a damage aura has that aura buffed by Fury. I agree that if you go ahead and softcap Scrappers are the clear winners (crashless nuke on a 90 second recharge?), but Brutes, not Tankers, got the short end of the Shield stick.

It's riskier than Full Auto as well, which has the virtue of being a cone (you want to be far away from them so you can hit more).

I've described Dual Pistols as "meh numbers, but fun". Meh means "nothing stands out about it" - it doesn't do anything well, other than look pretty; sure it does -dam as a potential secondary effect, but the durations are too short (meaning you don't get a lot of use from it on the AoEs) and the tier 1 doesn't get it (so you can't stack it to a great extent on one mob), so I tend to discount that aspect completely. The damage split is too small (as has been mentioned) to allow the changing of ammo types to make a significant difference in the damage output. Hail of Bullets is too random in the damage dealt, and has you vulnerable for the entirety of it - on my DP/Traps I have less issues, but she also has Force Field Generator giving defense and mez protection, and honestly I fill in with Trip Mine frequently for more damage in the same amount of time.

But she's fun to play. And I play to have fun. So the set works for me despite the "meh" numbers, although I'd like to see something changed to give a reason to play it beyond pretty animations.

I'd have to go back and check it, but if I remember the quote exactly right, this isn't quite what Castle had to say on the subject. If I'm remembering it right, the reward was the entire intent, not just the primary intent, and "fun" wasn't part of the equation (since he did clarify that some people find repeating content for speed runs and whatnot fun). If I'm remembering the post right, he also said that it was his personal definition and not an NCSoft "official stance", too, and I haven't seen any other redname post with a definition of farming.

But yes, he did say that in the context of doing something that you don't find fun repeatedly solely in order to receive higher than normal rewards, that was "farming" and was bad for the game.

I can be in a duo with Fortitude, Adrenalin Boost, and Regeneration Aura on the only other person on the team and still get a 10-15% discount when I monitor it, despite the fact that their hp never stands a chance of dropping below the point where I'd have to use a heal.

It gets a bad rap because there are so many other ways to build with endurance in mind, but it offers a nice discount. And with a single person with Carrion Creepers, the discount is capped.

My emp/rad, who runs through missions constantly doing something, while running sprint (with stealth IO) and Superspeed, with no endurance reduction slotted, disagrees.

And I've got to go with Black Hole/Dimension Shift as well. Sure, it serves a purpose... griefing the team you're on. I asked someone to remove it from their tray and forget they ever took it on a Sister Psyche TF where they were using it as it recharged. I felt that response was nicer than just kicking them on the spot, which was the only other option I was willing to tolerate.

That's how it's slotted on my rad/kin (the PBAoE proc was the Oblit as well, since I don't have an armageddon proc to toss in).

The only attacks with just one damage proc in them are the nuke and Cosmic Burst, and every attack has an Achilles. She's a lot of fun to play, since I just jump right into melee with her and cut loose... although now I get myself into trouble on my emp/rad trying to play the same way.

But 5 procs, 1 acc? Nah. Giving up the extra slot for a chance for +tohit is silly IMO, and you want end/rech to go with the accuracy so your procs go off more often, and over a longer timeframe without stopping.

When it was on test, I made a DP/Kin Corruptor prior to the level bump, and played her some at level 38 after the first bump. I found that Fire Blast/Kinetics (which I already have a 50 of) was far more survivable, just due to being able to go back to blasting immediately after Transfusion when it was needed (and it will be needed). The redraw time and longish animations leave you a lot less leeway for error, and Kinetics is a set that doesn't give a lot of play - sure it does well solo, but it's all about timing.

As for the DP/MM - that was my original thought for live, knowing that I'd have Drain Psyche that I use once every 30 seconds instead of Transfusion once ever 4, and Build Up gives me a nice boost without needing to be in the middle of the spawn...

... and then I made a DP/Traps Corruptor, since the person I was teaming with wanted to make a Corruptor. She's worked out pretty well, since I drop an Acid Mortar or Seekers to take the alpha, the FFG helps keep me alive while the spawn drops, Poison Trap is very nice for when I'm in the middle of the spawn and want to use Hail of Bullets without getting hit, and Trip Mine (which I just picked up today) gives me another source of AoE burst via toe-bombing to clear out spawns before they stop choking.

Yes, another primary (such as any of the "summon" ones) would get better use out of what Traps has to offer, but you don't pick Dual Pistols because it's "teh uber", you pick it for the flash and show.

See my comments above about my experience on test with DP/Kin - then again, if you aren't soloing, then the long redraw and animations are far less of an issue since you're not the sole focus for the whole spawn. Also, the randomness of the damage on Hail of Bullets means that several times in the middle of a spawn of 5-7 mobs, I'd hit Fulcrum->Hail, and nothing died. At +1. With an animation that long, you really need things to drop rather than hit you for the entire time.

Well, to clarify, whether or not there's "enough" mitigation is purely opinion. However, here are the points that affect mine:

Whirling Hands has a 30% chance for a minion level stun in an 8' AoE. This is not reliable AoE mitigation in my mind - it doesn't work on Lts or higher, has a small radius, and has less than a 1 in 3 chance to even get minions. All that, and it's a short duration, too!

4.5 - 5 seconds (BS+ET or TF) to stun a boss != good single target mitigation. Air Superiority takes less than 2 seconds to achieve the same result - taking one mob out of the fight - and you can permanently juggle anything without KB protection.

Taking 150 damage every 8-10 seconds for using the only reason to take the set = -mitigation. No other set penalizes you for trying to increase your DPS; even Fire Melee simply lets you swing away without hurting yourself. Prior to Energize, I frequently had to stop using ET on my EM/Elec simply due to killing myself with it in situations where I couldn't get Aid Self off (fighting Knives of Artemis, for example). Once you take ET out of the equation, Energy Melee isn't even close to competitive for single target damage.

Now, if you're fighting even-con mobs, who cares? Anything dies quickly with Fury built up, and you've got two attacks that can one-shot minions (and non-resistant Lts) with EM. Sure, on teams you'd rather have a set with better AoE since the issue is killing a lot of weaker things then, but Patron Pools can cover for that. Of course, at that point does it really matter that you happened to pick EM for a primary?

Also, I'm not saying that EM can't be workable, and you can't have a character with enough mitigation with it as a primary. What I am saying is that you'd have better mitigation with almost any other primary, and it's debatable about Fire Melee if you use Energy Transfer a lot.