Nihilii

I think Stimulant is better. Aid Other is a weak heal with low range, and anytime spent healing is time you could have been doing damage - which often is a better way to help your squishie friend, i.e. by defeating that boss pounding him rather than spend five seconds to heal a third of the damage he'll take from each blow.

On the other hand, Stimulant can be used preemptively before a tough battle, during downtime, and it's also great to get people back on their feet faster after they pop a wakie (they don't always have a breakfree handy). I've even used it in the middle of AV fights, when I see a squishie getting mezzed by what I know is a very long mez (i.e. malta stun grenades in the second RSF mission).

Nope, I never said that, you're the one who brought up the "anyone who doesn't hit the target cap with CC isn't trying". I'd give Footstomp a 7-8 target average personally, usually (but not always) the full ten when fights start and less than that as stuff start dying.

Phrased it that way, it is indeed a ridiculous assertion. Thankfully that wasn't my argument. My argument was (or more correctly "is", as it was incorrectly formulated before my edit) "ingame, cones have roughly half of their maximum potential performance", "maximum potential performance" defined as hitting the target cap every time the power is activated and activating the power without even a millisecond of time wasted positioning yourself, or in other words, theorical performance on paper if you were to ignore range and radius, purely looking at damage, maximum targets, activation time and recharge.

The thing is it's rather uncommon for 10 foes to stand in a convenient 8 feet 180 degree angle in front of my tanks. Maybe, 4, 5, 6 foes. Maybe 7-8 foes at the one point of a fight when things are gathered but not yet dead. Maybe 2 or just 1 near the end. Almost never the full ten unless I'm spending time positioning, and even then... Some character models won't even *fit* in the space even if you spend as much time as you want positioning, i.e. Crab Spiders, Kheldian Dwarves, Tarentulas, Longbow Chasers, those granite looking DEs, Malta Titans, PPD robot bosses, werewolves, and probably a fair number of others I can't think of right now. The only way you're getting ten of these in a 8 feet 180° cone is with the bug where they jump and literally stack on each other, and that involves spending a lot of time positioning, time that could be spent attacking and actually killing faster even if hitting a lesser amount of mobs with each attack. Then you've got the enemies who will stay at range and won't go into melee even if you taunt them, i.e. the new ACU/BCU praetorian robots, the rularuu psi guys and eyeballs, croatoa witches.

Your typical enemy group in x8 is what, 8-10 minions, 3-4 lieuts, 1-2 bosses, all in all about 14-16 mobs usually scattered over a ~20 feet radius, sometimes less or more depending on enemy faction and map. It's extremely rare for me to just jump in and have more than 3-4 targets just in front of me, only after they gather a bit I might have maybe 7-8, keyword being "might" because by that point 2-3 seconds have elapsed and some of the minions are already wiped out either by my AoEs or from someone else's.

Again, video would be convenient, because there's been so many words thrown around and obviously if you're right and I'm wrong then I'm missing something that you can't convey in words or that I'm too dense to understand.

And I never said you said that, if you're interested in forum fights ("strawman"? seriously?) then you win, I surrender, you're the best and I'm weak. Can we move on?

My point was that there's been many words exchanged about War Mace being great and super easy to use but never any tangible proof for us non-believers. How much more hours should we collectively waste arguing back and forth on this where a simple ten minute video of straight footage could not only illustrate the point of pro-WM folks but also show people who can't do it how it's done?

I realise I'm part of the problem by replying at all and will stop after this - and if there's an actual video posted please PM me about it, because if I read the thread further I'll keep falling into answering and derailing the topic.

I really need to get myself friends like that.

This room is actually the one used in Burkholder's TF and possibly other places, minus the giant robot.

Gotta love how people are going "non-exploitive tactics", "thinking outside the box" and ****. Pulling isn't exactly rocket science, and it's pretty obvious by the big, bold flashing messages in front of your screen that you're supposed to play the encounter by defeating his reflections.

Besides, if your character can't even defeat an Elite Boss by level 50... Should he really be an Incarnate?

That said, I can't say I care for the changes either way, I'm just reacting to the reactions.

I can solo every mission meant to be soloed (by which I mean everything but TFs) on any character. Ergo, when someone complains something is far too difficult for them to solo it is absolutely their fault and not the devs'.


Interesting idea to assume a game with hundreds of thousands of subscribers should be balanced around you and you alone, but I'm afraid things don't work that way. At best, you can end up having the same views as the majority, but with 12,000 posts under your forum name you're fooling yourself if you think you're any representative of the average CoH player.

C'est une référence à un certain jeu parlant de gâteaux et de cubes. On peut apprécier ou pas "l'humour", mais il ne faut sans doute pas prendre ça au premier degré.

Thanks man, but don't get me wrong ; he might value his pride to be worth under 12 billion inf, but I value getting a good laugh at the expense of someone calling me stupid and ridiculous when I feel it is uncalled for (well, I can be stupid and ridiculous sometimes ) to be worth over 12 billion inf.

What's "significantly faster"? 20%? 10%? Because I doubt you can get a 100% improvement, like, say, doing an Eden in 3 minutes - and yet 6 minutes Edens have been done on SOs.

On the other hand, your average PuG running through Eden takes, or used to anyway, about 2 hours or so. 6 minutes compared to 120 minutes - do I need to spell out the math here?

There's really no big argument to have. IOs can be a crutch helping players who don't know/abuse (again, pick your word based on perception) the game mechanics perform better, but for those of us who already did, the difference is ridiculously small. Most of what you can get from IOs, you can get from insps/buffs/debuffs, and insps/buffs/debuffs also offer more than what you can get from IOs.

Aw, man. And here I finally thought I might play a crab on the second build of my bane. Oh well, that was a nice try and thanks for sharing.