JoeKent
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Quote:Originally Posted by Chaos Creator
They are? Hmm Why would anyone not want a Stun, ToHit Debuff and DAMAGE DEBUFF(20% per drone) all rolled into one convenient package?
Not to mention a great way to soak up alpha while you toe bomb poison trap. -
One thing missing here, seeker drones do a serious accuracy debuff and 40% damage debuff if they both strike the same target.
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If I try to run a +0/+8 spawn size/no bosses on the DE map for Heroes Epic I get two bugs. The mobs spawn with bosses and my MM henchmen do nothing.
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Quote:Day jobs anyone?Originally Posted by Arcanaville
Technically, they have to reward practically all content, so by your logic this must mean players as a whole don't want to actually play the game.
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Quote:Tell that to Grant Morrison. "What? You want me to write a happy, sane Batman? **** that. Pass the shrooms"Originally Posted by Furio
That doesn't usually involve starting from scratch though. They may not acknowledge what came before, but very rarely do they start the character at square one again.
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Quote:ALL pets are melee pets now, and have been since I17.Originally Posted by Jibikao
Those that say their experiences are "different" are not telling the whole picture. There is a big difference between Robot/Thug VS Other Primaries (I think Demon survives better because they have heal and fire resistance). Melee pets just don't survive long enough to be at melee range against those big aoe damage.
In fact, since thugs and bots don't get their full effect from their cone attacks and are squishier than melee pets, ranged MMs are at a disadvantage now, in theroy.
Musculature and my procs have kept me uber, but there are a few enemies like Recluse and Nosferatu I still have issues with. -
Quote:wai.Originally Posted by hot_head_mike
if only non-melee pets would stop bayonet charging.
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Quote:That would be the Freedom Phalanx Task Forces.Originally Posted by Psylenz
I have solo'd AVs.
I have no idea what the f*** you mean by FP TF. Thanks for the elitist lingo.
I am talking about ITF, LGTF, and 5th Col TFs.
I had no issues with Rommie on the 1st mission he was in, but our group folded before we could try to take him with Nictis backup.
Haven't tried the other two, but the point was you said : "Level 50 content is highly biased against masterminds. Level 50 tip missions still work, but the TFs, and upper level missions are designed with bosses and AVs that wipe out all the pets within 10 seconds. "
I've soloed more avs after hitting level 50 than on the way to 50.
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Quote:I've soloed over 50 avs with my bots/traps mm, and I plan on soloing all the FP TFs once I switch hero side. I run 0/8 man team and the only mobs I have any issues with are malta and the new pretorians, and by problems I mean I might lose pets or die every so often.Originally Posted by Psylenz
Level 50 content is highly biased against masterminds. Level 50 tip missions still work, but the TFs, and upper level missions are designed with bosses and AVs that wipe out all the pets within 10 seconds.
Actually since I slotted muscleature the only time I've died is when I was hit my Pretorian ambushes with their multiple burn patches/slows.
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Quote:Traps.Originally Posted by Master_Templar
So you run either Chill or Mace Mastery? None of the MM PPP/APP seem to be particularly ... good. Maybe it's just me, but I always thought actually attacking myself as an MM was a waste of time. Perhaps I'm wrong.
Edit: Was this Bots/traps or bots/dark?
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I've found taking a def shield works better against most enemies than a resistance shield. I tested in out with my 2nd build and it just seems to work better 99% of the time. Plus with musculature slotted everything is DEAD before they can hit me anyway.
I do miss the dmg and anti-knockback from electrifying fences though, and my anti mezz procs were nice too. -
Quote:The issue is if you GOTO bots to a spot , they will fire off their attacks and then close to melee. They will ignore any commands to return to you until they've killed their target. On most enemies this isn't an issue, and if you are running a mission on the easiest settings they will kill their targets before you even notice them running anywhere.Originally Posted by TheUnnamedOne
I haven't seen any troubles like this on either of my MMs (Robot and Demon) that wasn't caused by them being Feared or Confused. Fear usually makes them behave that way and if they happen to run into another group while running scared when in Defensive mode, they'll start attacking when they get attacked.
And the melee thing... not seeing that either. Sure, sometimes they do close into melee because they have melee attacks. I tell them to heel and they come back to me, I tell them to attack again and they unload with flying death again.
Now, on TFs , fighting certain avs and fighting at, oh, say 8 man spawn +1 this is an issue because if their target has a massive pbaoe attack they close into melee and die. GOTO is supposed to lock them into a spot to keep them safe, but the ai "enhancement" from I17 makes GOTO useless.
And if their target runs into the next mob, well if you are on a team they get pissed because of your aggtard pets and if you are solo, well it can make things tough. -
After reading the info on the TF I prety much concluded with the current sad sate of henchman AI this TF would be impossible.
Maybe I should roll a fire/traps corruptor and save myself the head ache. Or find a team so l33t I can be a petless m through it. -
Well I was on Test last week and my bots still moved into melee. Hell, I forgot to equip them and they started out by charging int melee.
This actually helped when I soloed both the Honoree and the Vanguard av, believe it or not. I was able to keep everyone in a tight melee cluster, but that was more about the luck of the inclosed space and the fact that neither av has a massive damage pbaoe attack or a damage aura. -
We are NOT equal.
I really have to stop complaining about my bot ai. On test I soloed both the Honoree and the new Vanguard AV. The Vanguard AV was soloed without inspirations.
So I'm still fighting at Incarnate level before I19.
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Quote:It's a problem when trying to run an ITF or solo avs like Recluse or Ghost Widow. I might as well be a petless mastermind when trying to fight Nictus-Romulas because my bots die so fast.Originally Posted by anonymoose
It's not a problem for my level 50 bots/traps with softcapped pets, but that's arguably the most survivable MM build.
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Too bad they didn't hold up Issue 17 when they broke the mastermind pet ai.
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Quote:It's not a bug, it's WAI. The bug is that you used to be able to GOTO your pets to a spot and they'd stay there for the most part. I know the protector bots would run up to a mob to cast force field at it, but it was only the protector bots.Originally Posted by Carnifax_NA
That's the ongoing Pet AI bug, which is STILL unfixed.
Probably the worst thing affecting MMs at the moment. Any and all pets will attempt to close to melee range, even if they really shouldn't.
Of course I love it on my Plant/Emp controller, but Illusion is badly affected by it too.
Hopefully i19 has a fix for it in there somewhere (although I wouldn't hold my breath)
Now GOTO is useless.
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Quote:Um, no nerf herding please. With bots charging into melee I'd say "balance" has been achieved.Originally Posted by Little_Whorn
I hate to say it, but bots is a joke now compared to what it was capable of. Bots heavily relies on the assault bot's Incendiary missiles for damage and nerfing them to 1/3 the damage really affects the set's overall damage. Used to be the ridiculous damage on the missiles would push bots over thugs in terms of damage under many circumstances. Now unless i'm mistaken, the assault bot's missiles does virtually the same damage as the arsonist's firebomb, but still takes 20s compared to arsonist's 10s to deliver the damage. The assault bot's missiles still have the larger radius, but both radii are quite large (15' and 20').
Don't get me wrong, I love (and still like) the steamroller that is bots. I've IO'd my own bots/traps. But now it's less of a steamroller and more of a household iron. Still able to flatten things, but nowhere near its prior ability.
Actually now that I think about it, even though it was a mistake, it almost seems more fair now since bots is clearly one of the hardiest pet classes. No sense in giving one of the sturdiest pets the best damage as well. And now it opens up room for patron pools other than Mu Mastery. hmm, maybe this could actually be a good thing for the game balance.
I don't see the devs fixing this anyway. They've had an entire issue to do so, and two issues to fix the stupid melee bug and haven't done so.
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Quote:Castle said he was going to fix it over a month ago and its still nerfed. Pet AI has been broken since I17. So I've accepted these things as nerfs and have adapted . I'll adapt here as well.Originally Posted by Soulwind
And Incendiary Missiles wasn't nerfed. Well, actually it was, but Castle has already stated that it was an unintended side-effect of the Burn patch changes and that he'll be fixing it.
The trip mine change, I feel for ya. It makes more sense to have TM take PBAoE instead of Targetted (Ranged) AoE, but it does hurt a bit. -
Actually burried in the patch notes for i18 trip mine no longer accepts targeted aoe io sets. Just another nerf I've had to deal with. Well now I have to respec my build, sell the ios on the market and hope I get my investment back and hope I get enough money to put another set in.
1st they borked the pet ai, then they nerfed my missile swarm and now they changed sets on me. I'm starting to take this personally. -
Trip mine and I'm level 50, not exempted.
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Quote:Yes, I looked at combat attributes and it isn't there. I've only got the one 6.25% bonus, I also have the purple set recharge bonus, the LOTC bonus, a 5% bonus from perfect zinger and time lord's boon. The posi's is the only one not showing up.Originally Posted by Ten__
Most bonuses from IO enhancement sets do not appear as power icons in your status. How did you determine that you didn't get the bonus?
Did you check your recharge rate in the Combat Attributes window? Does the set bonus get listed in your Personal Information window (below your powers, as a Large recharge bonus)?
You won't really notice a single 6,25% bonus in casual play unless you look closely at your timings (and then it wouldn't be casual play any longer).
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So my level 50 bots/traps Mm has five slotted Positron's blast, but the 6.25% recharge bonus is not in his stats or listed under his powers. Anyone else experience this?
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Quote:There is no fix, Castle lied. It's a stealth nerf, just like MM pets charging into melee and ignoring commands not to.Originally Posted by Little_Whorn
Really? Still no fix to the MM's nerfed burn missles? When's that serious bug going to be addressed? :/