Dechs Kaison

With the prevalence of exemplaring for Ouro, TFs and SG AE missions, I always take into careful consideration when I pick my powers, especially key ones like the mez toggle.

I don't use IOs over level 40 for this reason. At level 37, my characters perform exactly as well as they do at level 50. e.g. If the build softcaps, it will be softcapped at 37, meaning weave/whatever necessary will be taken by level 41, usually much before.

Brutes have "punchvoke." Tankers have provoke. Brute attacks have a taunt that affects whatever the brute hits. Tank attacks taunt 4 other things in an area around what the tank hits.

Well, in my defense, my first post on the matter included the phrase "in my mind." I never claimed anything I said was more than an opinion.

I, for one, would be very hesitant to turn off my mez protection as a tank just to get around, but that's just me.

Guess what? You can! Just follow the "Dark Armor Sucks" link in my signature.

In general, I find stone tanks to be at the bottom tier, in my opinion, because they cannot react and move quickly. This is because two powers, one of which is critical to survival, severely limit maneuverability. Teleport works to an extent, but does have a noticeable cast time and limitations around corners. Taunting works well too, but has a five target cap.

Allow me to present a situation: I'm leading a team of eight and we're fighting something that's not easy for the team to take out. A patrol/ambush/extra mob gets aggro'd at the other side of the team. I can jump from the mob I'm at to the middle of the new one and immediately start getting everything's aggro, and I can do it before teleport would finish animating.

When analyzing tankers, I prioritize the ability to generate and hold aggression, because that is the purpose of a tanker. Survival is not a requisite to being a good tank, holding aggro is. Survival does help, but if you can't get to the opponent and can't keep its attention, it's not a tank.

The dominators were treated uniquely because their sets are not the same as anyone else's.

This is an ignorant statement with regard to brutes.

Brutes have resistance caps of 90% just like tankers, and they also have the same HP cap as tankers. The modifiers are lower, so a brute gets less resistance/defense out of his powers than a tanker, but the cap is still the same for both. Brutes also start out with more hit points than scrappers.

Say what you like, but I've yet to see a stone tanker of any kind out pace, out aggro, out damage, and outlast my Dark Armor tank.

/threadjack

Stone tankers are at the bottom tier of "true" tankers in my mind.

A true tanker has mobility and agility. A true tanker should be able to withstand and dish out a beating. A true tanker is the first and only one on his team to die.

If a tanker is the last man standing, he has failed.

I put mention out on our largest channel last night, and I'll keep trumpeting every night that I'm on until then.

Yes, Sewer Trial is 38 minimum. How close to that level is your highest tank on Virtue?

Really good analysis here, thanks for spelling it out.

Hecatomb proc? Erm... yeah. When I get there. The other expensive stuff in this build I can at least obtain with merits.

I don't exemplar below 35 too often, but when I do, I don't notice missing my bonuses. Really, who has trouble tanking a Citadel task force?

But the suggestions for the rest are pretty solid. I do want to keep conserve power because it will be my way to deal with end draining enemies. Here's what I did. I dropped PP for hasten and stole a slot from health to give it a second recharge. I also changed the slotting in Health to just the miracle unique.

The total result is a reduction in regen to 630% or 84.5 HP/sec with one foe in range. Recovery goes up a smidge. I still want to keep Resurgence too, but I changed the order so Strength of Will comes just before it. I don't really need a travel power between all the temporary powers available and CJ + Hurdle.

What I think I will do is move the order around a bit. Tough and Weave coming in at levels 30 and 32, boxing at 26. That'll let me put Health at 22 for the added recovery (miracle) when I exemplar below dark consumption.

I'm out of time now, so I'll have to mess with Mids more when I get home from work.

EDIT: Ok, I'm rethinking Resurgence again. I mean, it's pretty much that or a travel power, and which one will I get more use out of? Which one, when the situation arises, will I really feel sorry about picking over the other?

Resurgence is not like Dark Armor's rez. If it did kill me and I just get back up, it'll kill me again, this time without all my toggles on. Tanker card threat or no, I'm an aggroholic; if there is a way for this build to die, I'll find it.

What are you talking about? Dark Armor Sucks.

Really though, the sets have a lot in common. As for the differences: Elec has a little higher resists overall, but dark has some defense and a better heal. Elec has complete hole to toxic while dark has no KB protection and a pseudo hole to energy. Dark has better psionic resist, but elec has enough to get by. Dark will make you have to manage endurance, elec will never have that problem. Elec may even be able to sap enemies. Elec gets +recharge and a godmode for when things get really hairy. Dark gets control auras and a rez with mag 30 stun for when things get really hairy.

Either one can tank. I'd leave it to concept or a coinflip if you really can't decide.

Outside of the i13 PvP changes, I can't think of a single change that was bad for the game, and even that one is debatable.

Follow this link. Then read this one.

Every 10 seconds your toggle is active, it will roll to see if the proc happens on any enemy in range.

Of course. The circuitry sustains him, but there is a downside. Since there is no organic life form, he lost his ability to shapeshift (human only build). He can leave the circuitry for very short spans of time, though (Light Form).

That's what it took for me to justify it in my mind.

Inspiration. He said inspiration, not enhancement.