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Ditch KM. All other KMs will be ditching this set. It is horrible after the new nerf in i22. Too many peeps crying like wimps, ya, crying foul. No BU, no crit, a long long recharge and long animation for CS and they cry for mom. KM/Regen get beat in melee fights, if you watch fight club fights, but hey, who cares, when you have wimps crying foul 'cause their pride got hurt.

I don't own a KM but I have beaten a good share of them in duels. But hey, do what you want.

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No, in PvP, mind does not pull ahead of earth in PvP. That very very long stun duration in PvP makes a well built earth-fire Dom get a kill on a squishy before the stun wears off. This is no joke. The casting time is so fast on stalagmites to be very useful on duels and on team pvp. The only thing an earth-fire Dom has problems with in duels are serious debuffs like a cold defender or a poison corruptor. A cold defender or even corruptor will make your fire damage laughable.

However, in pvE, earth is my favorite control focus set. It is just heave in controls and stalagmites is a SUPERB mob opener in width duration, etc.... I can rely on Stalagmites better than Seeds of Confusion when I am soloing mobs of x5 or more. Stalagmites seems to have a greater area coverage than Seeds.

I have an earth-thorns Dom I love to death, because thorns is so good at AoE dmg.

Todd,

I answered that question before you even asked me. I said earlier that most Dom/fire builds I see are leaving incinerate and fire breath out of the build.

If I add the two additional attacks in--

1756.27 Total damage on a Plant/fire/fire Dom. That is still way short of the controller. You are also not mentioning or recognizing that the Controller's pet is also doing significant amounts of dmg superior to the Dom's pet since Fulcrum Shift is also buffing the pet.

If we include Lore pets it gets unfair, Todd. Lore pets with Fulcrum shift it's a figh of guns vs knives. Also, we are leaving out the usefulness of Kinetics in debuffing the dmg the critters deal.

Todd,

With fulcrum shift added, the race is over. Roots, creepers, hold, the pet, fireball, fireblast, every dmg dealing tool is exponentially increased, then add containment.

The plant/storm controller which you left out of your response, good sir, has another array of dmg dealing tools. But you know all this, todd. I am a big fan of Dominators, and I love them, really. I just don't let that block my objectivity.

I absolutely disagree with this advice. I think it is bad advice to give to a beginner. Support types are great. There are many, way many players out there that don't play decked out builds or toons. There are even many players that are not as good tactically as others. There are so many variables that are possible at any given time to make a statement like that.

As a long time veteran of the game, and as one having both, a repertoire of decked out builds and having builds with just non invention enhancements, I will say there are many times that support toons are just very very useful and play a very important variety of roles.


Force field is set it and forget type of play and is a very good buff set.

Nope, not kidding. Many controller builds will be far from reach, in terms of dmg, for any Dom. You like Plant/ right? It's your favorite. A plant/kin or a plant/storm will out-damage any Dominator build, for the most part or in general when all powers are available from secondary and primary and add Epics if you will.

Taking into account what is quoted here, this is just wrong, very much so. Controllers, depending on builds or powersets, outdamage dominators, and when they outdamage Doms, they do so by a lot.

An illusion/storm is a Monster when it comes to dmg. Fire/storm, plant/storm, fire/kin, plant/kin, plant/trick arrow, fire/tick arrow....

Here's more, in a prolonged fight there is no Dom that will deal more dmg than a plant/storm. In a prolonged fight, especially vs an AV, an illusion/cold or illusion/rad will put a Dom way behind. Those are some examples.

Many times controllers outdamage Dominators, and in many cases, Dominators can out control controllers.

I try to team with lowbies on Freedom server. I broadcast on Help chnl or in zone broadcast. I play my Dom's, among other toons, and I especially look out for lowbie Dominators or controllers to invite and we make a small team of 2-4. I have diff set for about 5-6 peeps (usually).

I hope that by my example they see how to use controls to manage the field, and then eliminate them.

When on my earth/thorns Dom, stalagmites, stone cages, aim, fling thorns as I approach the grp, then jump in middle of the group, Thorn Burst, wactch them die, pick any boss or LT still alive with a well placed cone Ripper, lunge, game over. If there are more critters, I thrown two thorn burst and not just one. But I have even learned, I dont want to play a scrapper again, especially a spines scrapper. My Dom can do the same thing except crit but I Dominate the field and then pwn them with great dmg attacks, and then go on.

I also have a plant/thorns ( I love Thorns, I absolutely love the AOE-licious set) the dmg mix is just beastly.

I also have an earth/earth Dom, a Controller with SMASH! I get to show lowbies how to play Doms and how fun they can be. I exemp down to do their mishs or I do mine at lvl 50.

He did listen to android, but did you read the OP's response?

"ALL I got to say is wow....

I counted 20 purp recipies. ON my server that is 8 billion. Being back now for 6 weeks their is no way in heck i can come up with that kind of scratch.
Even if I went with hero marks that would be what couple hundred..
Your build is awesome.. 100% but in my opinion out of my league.. "

I provided a cheap build, a penny pincher build, with perma Dom. That is a good build for general PvE.

What did you slot Ice patch with?

What level were the critters and what level were you AT THE TIME you fought them?

That strong feeling is wrong. My 3rd toon to 50, was my second controller to 50, an illusion/rad controller. Back in i8 was when I started him. I solo'd the vast majority of the jorney 1-50. I started in Atlas, then Hollows, then faultline, Striga.... etc. My illusion/rad competed with my scrapper, who had been my 1st 50 in speed for grinding 1-50. My second toon to 50 was my fire/rad controller. The tools available to ill/rad helped him to make the 1-50 very fun and good in terms of speed.

My vote would be for illusion/rad if it's your first controller especially if it's with SOs.

I would recommend Mind/ controller if you would like to solo or grind a /kin controller. When I wanted to make a /kin controller, I came to the conclusion back in i8-i9, that Mind/ would be the safest to grind a /kin controller. It is very very busy and it is clicky.

Illusion on a Dom is lame. It is something which functions way way better on a controller. If it does not ever make it to Dom's I will be at ease, and I do have to side with Devs to hold this up for Dom. Illusion is not a set which benefits significantly from Domination compared to other sets, or, not even compared.

I think Claws still out performs the others for highest DPS. In fact, Claws is the only primary which is shared with scrappers in which it is better on brutes than on scrappers, not by much, but it edges scrappers out.

Have you ever seen an AEON tank? I wish my tank could draw all the enemies in the area or the room to the tank, and I mean literally pull them like the tank was a magnet and the critters were just moving by force, pull them to the point where he is completely surrounded by them.

Guild Wars is the game that has done the best job of implementing a similiar system. Your primary profession has a range of areas to pick from, and then add your secondary. Yep, you can be a Monk/Warrior... But, Guild Wars is a very superior game, with a PvP system which is at the top of all MMOs or very close to it.

That's more in line with what I think.

I have a Night Widow and a Fortunata build on the same toon. Carnies is a joke to her, regardless of level and number, Psy resists (heavy), Psy defense, positional defense, and very strong dmg output. I have tried 54x8 just to test and it only takes longer to kill them but I do it. Nemesis are done much more carefully than Carnies, since the Veng stack at lvl 54 can be a BIG deal. Holds, confuse, fast and hard dmg go a long way. I do Nemesis at 54x8 as well. My night widow handles Nemesis much slower, hit and run tactics when I see Veng has been fired off.

And I discovered this by chance, but since my Ice/DM tanker is just very very hard to kill, even his ranged defense is 26, which is solid for Ice/ , and armor set thats dmg type dependent, so I was trying him out vs Carnies, and I saw it was easy. I kept increasing the lvl of difficulty until I hit 54x8. I got a heal every 4.5 seconds, and shadow maul+sands of Mu after soul drain hits like a truck to everyone in the cone, a pretty solid size cone. I dont worry about endu drain, I drain them instead. I keep a critter alive at all groups for my heal to go off if I need it. His defense for dmg types is pretty high.

My Fire/Fire tanker can mow down Nemesis, regardless of level. I have 86 resists to S/L, 90 to fire, and I heal for 1036 points every 10.5 seconds. I also pack phase into the build. He is pretty hard to kill.

My elec/ tank, all my ice/ tanks, and my widow, can handle Malta 54x8 and Arachnos much much easier than the groups above. My defense based toons outshine my resist based toons by a long shot vs Arachnos and Carnies.

**Edit Note**

My elec/ tanker handles Rularuu much better than my other toons, but my Ice/Dark tanker does not do that bad given his fast heal and Hoarfrost + Hib.