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what do you mean by not being able to use IOs at level 30?|
Originally Posted by xxmaelstrom
I'm really confused about this Perma Dom thing. I made a mind/fire dom and I'm currently level 30. I know I can't use IOs yet, but I'm planning in Mids' and I have no idea how to do this.
I read the Perma Dom article and it's STILL confusing. This is probably because I don't know what to slot each power with in my power sets. I know we want to achieve the bonuses for the sets but you don't slot each power 6 times so then the bonus can't be achieved. I need help understanding the IO system and how I should slot my powers as a Mind/Fire Dom. Thanks! |
The general idea is to use global recharge bonuses from IOs and Hasten in order to get the recharge time of Domination down so that:
1. charge up and use Dom
2. Dom recharges before its initial use expires
3. click Dom again before the first instance expires
Side note - you can do this without using hasten, however, it requires 125% global recharge.
With hasten 3 slotted for recharge reduction, you need approximately another 70% global recharge (140% total) in order to start seeing permadom. However, it is very unstable at this point and requires you to be extremely punctual in your activation of Domination and Hasten. If you're off, you lose permadom and have to start over. I typically recommend going for 95% (90-100%). This gives you a decent timing buffer so that if you forget to click either key power for a moment or two, no big deal.
The quickest way to start accumulating global recharge are Luck of the Gambler: 7.5% global recharge IOs. Getting 5 of these in your build gets you 37.5%. Mind/ allows you to get and use the cheaper sleep/confuse purple sets - another 20%. After that, just peruse through your powers and the sets they can take. Most recharge bonuses require 5 pieces of the set.
SG: Guadians of Paragon - VG: Paragon's Darkness
The Usual Suspects: Fimboolvetr (Icer Tank), Tsukiyomi (Mind/Psi/Ice Dom), Smiting Dragon (Dm/Sr Scrap), Widow Mortis (NW)
Up and Comers: Ameterasu (Km/Reg Scrap), Arrhymian (Elec/Nin Stalk), TDMKII (Bot/Traps MM)
I said I would respond. You sent me the message in game. I would like to clarify a few things:
a) you can slot any kind of IOs, except purple recipes, at any level. Purple can only be slotted at lvl 50.
b) IOs and their bonuses, global recharge bonuses, can get you perma Domination. Domination last for a certain amount of time. Getting Perma Domination means you have enough recharge to have Domination ready before Domination wears off. Global recharges on your build, when you have enough of it, can get you to have Domination recharged before it wears off.
I am providing a sample build. This is only one way to build a Mind/Fire Dominator with enough recharge to get you perma domination. If you put your mouse, when using Mids, over the inherent power Domination, you will see it will recharge faster than it will expire. That is thanks to global recharge bonuses from IOs.
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Example of Perma Dom: Level 49 Magic Dominator
Primary Power Set: Mind Control
Secondary Power Set: Fiery Assault
Power Pool: Speed
Power Pool: Leaping
Power Pool: Concealment
Villain Profile:
Level 1: Mesmerize -- Decim-Acc/Dmg(A), Decim-Dmg/EndRdx(3), Decim-Dmg/Rchg(3), Decim-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg(5), Decim-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(5)
Level 1: Flares -- Decim-Acc/Dmg(A), Decim-Dmg/EndRdx(7), Decim-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg(7), Decim-Dmg/Rchg(9), Decim-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(9)
Level 2: Dominate -- BasGaze-Acc/Hold(A), BasGaze-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg/Hold(11), BasGaze-Rchg/Hold(11), BasGaze-EndRdx/Rchg/Hold(13), Thundr-Acc/Dmg(13), Thundr-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(43)
Level 4: Levitate -- Decim-Acc/Dmg(A), Decim-Dmg/EndRdx(15), Decim-Dmg/Rchg(15), Decim-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg(17), Decim-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(17)
Level 6: Confuse -- Empty(A), Empty(19), Empty(19), Empty(21), Empty(21)
Level 8: Incinerate -- C'ngImp-Acc/Dmg(A), C'ngImp-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(23), C'ngImp-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(23), C'ngImp-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(25), C'ngImp-Dmg/EndRdx(25)
Level 10: Fire Blast -- Dev'n-Acc/Dmg(A), Dev'n-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(27), Dev'n-Dmg/Rchg(27), Dev'n-Dmg/EndRdx(29), Dev'n-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(29)
Level 12: Mass Hypnosis -- FtnHyp-Sleep(A), FtnHyp-Sleep/Rchg(31), FtnHyp-Acc/Sleep/Rchg(31), FtnHyp-Acc/Rchg(31), FtnHyp-Sleep/EndRdx(33)
Level 14: Super Speed -- Empty(A)
Level 16: Embrace of Fire -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(33), RechRdx-I(36)
Level 18: Total Domination -- BasGaze-Rchg/Hold(A), BasGaze-Acc/Rchg(34), BasGaze-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg/Hold(34), BasGaze-EndRdx/Rchg/Hold(34), BasGaze-Acc/Hold(36)
Level 20: Hasten -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(36), RechRdx-I(45)
Level 22: Combat Jumping -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A)
Level 24: Telekinesis -- Empty(A)
Level 26: Terrify -- Posi-Acc/Dmg(A), Posi-Dmg/EndRdx(37), Posi-Dmg/Rchg(37), Posi-Dmg/Rng(37), Posi-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(39)
Level 28: Stealth -- Empty(A)
Level 30: Grant Invisibility -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A)
Level 32: Mass Confusion -- CoPers-Conf/EndRdx(A), CoPers-Conf/Rchg(33), CoPers-Acc/Conf/Rchg(39), CoPers-Acc/Rchg(39), CoPers-Conf%(40)
Level 35: Blazing Bolt -- Empty(A), Empty(40), Empty(40), Empty(42)
Level 38: Blaze -- Empty(A), Empty(42), Empty(42), Empty(43), Empty(43)
Level 41: [Empty]
Level 44: [Empty]
Level 47: [Empty]
Level 49: [Empty]
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Level 2: Swift -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Health -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Hurdle -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Stamina -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Domination
Level 1: Sprint -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A)
Level 4: Ninja Run
Repeat Offenders forever !
Make all IO's available in Paragon Market! NCSoft, the chinese are making BIG money selling influence and other stuff in the game. Best way to stop them = make the paragon market a place to buy all IO's and perhaps other things as well.
Ah that helps so much both of you! Thank you so much. I bought a couple but I'm not fully slotted yet as I'm not level 50 yet. Just hit 35 tonight. Thanks a lot!
It's possible to get perma dom before 50 even. I generally plan for most of my doms to hit perma by mid 30's. It just makes everything easier, plus the global recharge helps everything else out.
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Once you've hit 50 you can work a build that achieves permadom at level 22 >.>|
Originally Posted by Vysires
It's possible to get perma dom before 50 even. I generally plan for most of my doms to hit perma by mid 30's. It just makes everything easier, plus the global recharge helps everything else out.
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or any higher levels that gives you the power and enh slots necessary to do it.
SG: Guadians of Paragon - VG: Paragon's Darkness
The Usual Suspects: Fimboolvetr (Icer Tank), Tsukiyomi (Mind/Psi/Ice Dom), Smiting Dragon (Dm/Sr Scrap), Widow Mortis (NW)
Up and Comers: Ameterasu (Km/Reg Scrap), Arrhymian (Elec/Nin Stalk), TDMKII (Bot/Traps MM)
My Dom is stuck at 3m 20s recharge time. No matter what IOs I add I can't get it below that 
. Help?
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could you, perhaps, post a Mids build with what you're currently working with?
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Originally Posted by xxmaelstrom
My Dom is stuck at 3m 20s recharge time. No matter what IOs I add I can't get it below that
. Help? |
SG: Guadians of Paragon - VG: Paragon's Darkness
The Usual Suspects: Fimboolvetr (Icer Tank), Tsukiyomi (Mind/Psi/Ice Dom), Smiting Dragon (Dm/Sr Scrap), Widow Mortis (NW)
Up and Comers: Ameterasu (Km/Reg Scrap), Arrhymian (Elec/Nin Stalk), TDMKII (Bot/Traps MM)
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If you look at the power effects using the "real numbers" in the game, it doesn't show the effects of global recharge buffs, only the recharge that is slotted in the power.|
Originally Posted by xxmaelstrom
My Dom is stuck at 3m 20s recharge time. No matter what IOs I add I can't get it below that
. Help? |
This means that for powers like Domination which can't be slotted at all, you'll always see the base recharge, even though a global buff (like Hasten, or +recharge set bonuses) will actually reduce the time it takes. You can see this in action with other powers by checking them before and after Hasten activates, and you'll see that the recharge listed is the same for each despite the power coming back faster if you time it.
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Are you looking at the ingame info? What you're seeing is the base recharge of Domination. If you are looking at the ingame information, that information does not reflection the recharge time with global bonuses. Even a single 6.25% recharge bonus will shave a few seconds off of Domination's recharge.
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Originally Posted by xxmaelstrom
My Dom is stuck at 3m 20s recharge time. No matter what IOs I add I can't get it below that
. Help? |
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It really depends on what sets you have, and how much inf you have. I don't know what the current record for achieving perma-dom, but @ 50 you much more slots available, that if you plan right, you can keep perma-dom when you level down, also purple sets are great for this, in that they have some nice set bonuses, and you keep those bonuses when you exemp down, and IMO Dom's have the most flexiability when it comes to purple sets, in that doms as an AT is able to slot any of the purple sets w/o dipping into the epic/ patron sets
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Originally Posted by Vysires
It's possible to get perma dom before 50 even. I generally plan for most of my doms to hit perma by mid 30's. It just makes everything easier, plus the global recharge helps everything else out.
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Level 22 is the lowest you can go. At least with some sets and whether or not you feel comfortable using level 25 IOs. At some point I'm planning on this with my own Mind/Psi.
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Originally Posted by Wooden_Replica
It really depends on what sets you have, and how much inf you have. I don't know what the current record for achieving perma-dom, but @ 50 you much more slots available, that if you plan right, you can keep perma-dom when you level down, also purple sets are great for this, in that they have some nice set bonuses, and you keep those bonuses when you exemp down, and IMO Dom's have the most flexiability when it comes to purple sets, in that doms as an AT is able to slot any of the purple sets w/o dipping into the epic/ patron sets
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SG: Guadians of Paragon - VG: Paragon's Darkness
The Usual Suspects: Fimboolvetr (Icer Tank), Tsukiyomi (Mind/Psi/Ice Dom), Smiting Dragon (Dm/Sr Scrap), Widow Mortis (NW)
Up and Comers: Ameterasu (Km/Reg Scrap), Arrhymian (Elec/Nin Stalk), TDMKII (Bot/Traps MM)
I'm aware that you can design builds that SK down really low. What I meant was getting permadom in a leveling character. It's a bit of a squeeze, and depends on the primary and secondary, but it's generally doable by sometime in the 30's. It's hard to do before that cause you just don't have enough slots.
I'm really confused about this Perma Dom thing. I made a mind/fire dom and I'm currently level 30. I know I can't use IOs yet, but I'm planning in Mids' and I have no idea how to do this.
I read the Perma Dom article and it's STILL confusing. This is probably because I don't know what to slot each power with in my power sets. I know we want to achieve the bonuses for the sets but you don't slot each power 6 times so then the bonus can't be achieved. I need help understanding the IO system and how I should slot my powers as a Mind/Fire Dom.
Thanks!