Aett_Thorn

First off, I like the basic idea. I do think that having a bit more choice in the power pools would be a good idea. Specifically, I think that your ideas for Speed, Medicine, Leadership, and Concealment are great ideas. The speed one could work, I think, being modified from the Shield Charge tech that is already in the game.

For Teleport, I think that the pool is really lacking a combat option for travel, like Flight and Leaping have. So what about a short-range TP that grants some defense, has no hover period, and a lower range/endurance cost than regular TP?

Awww...come on! I want a Demon/Kinetic Mastermind to pair with my Claws/Stone Brute on test!

This. A damage power will almost never be auto-hit in PvE.

Me, I think that it's a holdout perception from before Brutes got Claws. The larger radius definitely helps for ease of use (i.e., you don't need to make sure that everything is packed in tight around you before using it), but I'm thinking that people still aren't thinking of Claws when it comes to Brutes, even though they've had it for a bit.

If that is the tac you want to take, then why shouldn't we be able to choose from the first three powers from our primary pool at level 1? Wouldn't that allow for more customization? Why not be able to take a power from any tier at level 2? That would allow for more customization, wouldn't it?

At some point, the line must be drawn. The current line works, and nobody here has shown any differently. If you move the line, you do have the potential for weaker characters, especially among newer players (ones who might not know that Stalkers are supposed to take hide, for instance), since because there was a choice, both must be okay choices to take at level 1.

Bruising would also likely be lost, since one of the reasons it was added to the tier 1 Tanker attacks was because you had to take the power. If you can make the choice, then logically you'd have to revert Bruising.


To sum up, the current system is:

Not broken, can't unintentionally gimp characters


Proposed system:

Also not technically broken (though sometimes out of Dev design), can unintentionally gimp characters.


And then you're asking which one I prefer? I prefer the one that is idiot-proof, thankyouverymuch.

I understand Fury. I was merely pointing out that base stats are not always a differentiator between primary and secondary sets.

If you want another example, look at the traps set, which has a number of powers that work at exactly the same base values on both Corruptors and Defenders, thanks to the pseudo-pets.

There are a number of cases where the secondary set has better stats than the primary. In those cases, the slower progression of powers is the only thing making the secondary weaker than the primary powers.

The stats don't always work, though. Controllers get a lot more benefit from the Storm Secondary powers than a similar Defender might, for instance. Certainly, the debuff potential is higher on the Defender, but with Containment, Controllers can do more damage.

Or look at Dominators and Brutes. Dominators have higher base damage on similar attacks.

So stats do not always make it so that the secondary powers are weaker.

This is NOT true. It doesn't override anything. It just adds a heck of a lot of Threat. If someone else can generate more threat than Taunt can, they will get aggro. It also doesn't force mobs into melee range, it just brings them closer. Some mobs it won't do anything to (i.e., Snipers).

It is not a key power for the AT, it just helps a lot.

Ummmm...I have. Many times. There's no such thing as melee range aggro. It's just aggro. As long as they are attacking, they'll be fine. A 13.5 second taunt effect from their attacks, * 1,000 generates a lot of Threat.

Why would Frozen Aura need to be changed at all? It works fine as is, now. It didn't when I6 came out, which is why Dominators got Ice Sword Circle in the first place (and was one of the suck-tastic properties of Ice Melee, which is why Brutes didn't get it), but now that it does a good amount of damage, I would think that it would be fine.

Ice Patch is no more problematic than Hand Clap, really, and would most likely be skipped on Brutes, but that's fine.

Well, that depends entirely on the AT, though.

For a Scrapper, that might be the case, but most Tankers get their best attack at level 38, but could probably have an open slot at level 32, since that is when they gain their situational power.