So.... masterminds may be over....

Is there any other game that has anything like masterminds? My usual crew hates teaming with them but I have one of every primary at lvl 32. Is there any other MMO game that comes CLOSE to the feeling of "I COMMAND AN ARMY!"?

Bonedancers in DAoC can summon up to 4 pets - 1 commander and 3 minions.

Necromancers in AoC can summon up to 8 pets (8 available pet points, pets cost 1-4 points depending on abilities).

The game is quite old now, but Diablo II had both the Necro and the Druid..

Necro could summon dozens of skeletons/revived corpses, and the Druid could summon 5-6 or so Pets, exact numbers depending on what you summoned..

Guild Wars 1 Also had a Necro that summoned stuff, but I don't recall much about it, thinkg GW2 has one as well, but best let someone else fill in the info there xD

Other than those 3.. well, most Pet classes cap out at 1, maybe 2 pets these days; sadly.


Edit - ^ Right, forgot about AoC necros.

Necro seems to be a key summoning class lol.

Champions Online is the closest I've found so far, and thats a mish-mash of different summons. Its still very effective, and...at least...similar. Trust me, I've looked. Otherwise you get the staple "one summon". Necromancers in Guild Wars 2, thinking on it, can get a small army as well.

no other game i have seen has anything mastermind related, its been my favorite class in the game as well (my 2nd favorite would be controllers)

from what i have seen most "pets" in other games are either vanity types, or they act like controller/dom pets and you have no direct control over them

Alot of other games just have you use pets as an additive, nothing like having total control over them.

MM's are my favorite class all of COH. I was so hoping for the day when I would get full MM customization, using the costume creator for my pets. Now that dream is over.

At least I will have many screen shots and videos of my precious MM's.

I made a Champions character once who worked mainly via pets, a few years ago.

I had a fire breathing demon, a very Tron-looking robot/golem, and I think another pet as well, plus some buff powers to help them out.

Checking the wiki...

Arcane Sorcery - Ritual of Arcane Summoning - this was the "Tron Golem"?

I think each magic tree had a Ritual of Blah Blah summoning power, and the "Unbound Ritual" advantage let you summon it even with other pets. By default they're mutually exclusive.

Tyrannon's Familiar did something too, was it an Earth Golem type creature?
Anyway, I had three pets most of the time. Halfway there. I explained it all as just telepathic illusions

Then there were Attack Toys (uggh!) and Support Drones for the techy pet controller.

There were some direct controls that popped up, like "Attack this target" but I never mastered them. And it was a while ago like I said.

What about the Transformers MMO? Doesn't it have something that can "build an army" too (looks askance at Soundwave, Laserbeak, Ravage, Rumble and Frenzy)?

It's the end. But the moment has been prepared for ...

I haven't tried a lot of the classes in Everquest 2, but I've got a Conjuror and while they only have the 1 pet rule (and multiple types of pets) they do have a mastermind like interface where you can choose to have them attack, or follow you defensively, or go total passive, so you can have control over them.

But yeah sadly, it seems like the mastermind is fairly unique among MMO pet classes for how many minions you get.

Just for the sake of completeness...

In World of Warcraft, as of the current patch (5.0.4), Demonology-specced warlocks can get a lot of pet action going. Unfortunately you only have real control over one, as usual; it's just that you can bring in some additional ones and have others triggered by procs, and it's possible to have quite the crowd in big fights.

I'm enjoying it, though it's no true substitute for the glory that is the mastermind.

I think Guild Wars 2 would be your best bet, my Necromancer is only level 22 and I have a Bone Fiend, 2 Bone Skeletons, the glowy shadowy ball pet aswell as your default lvl 1 pet whose attacks also heal you, that's as many as Masterminds get.

Also on GW2, Mesmers attacks summon clones, which you can have 3 active at a time, them they can also summon various types of "phantasms", mage, defender, soldier, depending on your weapon you're wielding.

Hope this info helps

There's also always Dofus. There's several Pet-specific classes (including one that specializes in it, with 16 out of 20 spells either summoning a monster or buffing summons); twelve out of fifteen classes get at least one Pet before level 100 (only the swordsman, the archer, and the shielder don't), all classes get a summon that mimics their class attacks at level 200 (the level cap), and every character can gain two special Pet-summoning spells via quests and/or drops. So at max level characters can have anywhere between three and ten summon spells available to them, depending on class.

And while there's limits on the number of summons you can have on the field at once (1 by default, but there's plenty of common gear - and for two of the classes, self-buffs - to increase that number), there's no limits on the number of each summon you can have. So you're not restricted to certain combinations of summons.

In fact, the summon system (and the sheer number of such spells available to players) has always been one of my favorite things about the game.

And Dofus runs on Mac and takes up only about 4.6 GB of drive space (around the same as CoH), so there's also that.

The downside is that players tend to hate summons in teams and prefer the summoner class just use their buffs and attacks, so... that part will be exactly like playing a Mastermind.

If you check it out, note that none of the names I used are the actual class names (which tend to be puns, backwards words, backwards puns, or backwards puns in French), but if I started throwing around the real class names, nobody would know what I was talking about. ("Osamodas? Sadida? What are you smoking there, Thunder?")

There are the Carrier ships in Star Trek Online. Can have one or two hangars depending on ship and depending on hangar can have one to three ships. So you could have a total of 6 ships. There are some items that can summon a combat pet for a short time. Also, you can have a bunch of space pets follow you, but vanish when combat starts. On ground, can only have one summoned pet at a time. The Secret World can summon a bunch of pets, but they are stationary and last for a few seconds.

Was watching Wakfu a few months ago and thought Dofus is connected to it in some way. The Wakfu MMO is the sequel to Dofus.

For Feds, the earliest you can get a Carrier is at level 40. It is the Tholian Recluse Carrier and costs anywhere between 40 to 150 million EC on the exchange. The earliest a KDF can get a carrier is at the start with the Dacoit Flight Deck Cruiser. It only has one hanger and costs $10. The only free Carrier is at level 40 and is called the Vo'quv Carrier.

Just a side note:

It is possible to create something very close to a CoX Mastermind in Champions, complete with pet controls.

It's not intuitive, and you have to be a paying member so you can go 'Freeform'. But it can be done. Right now I'm playing a toon with 4 "Dinosaur" pets and two support drones. Oh those support drones, they work how I always wished "Triage Beacon" did. They follow you and spam a cone heal, that actually heals for a lot!

You can also command pets to use certain "special abilities". The pets I've tested so far have good serviceability and resistance! I'm not good at guides and such, but here's some helpful info from the Wiki page: