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So Prometheus mentioned the path to Ascension. I wonder if this is what is planned after Incarnates (or after the Omega slot). If so, it will be interesting seeing what form it takes.


 

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Prometheus will open a portal to another parallel world, this particular one unlike any seen before. You'll be deleveled to level 1 and find yourself in the land of Ascalon.

Ascension is when we cross the sea to the Crystal Desert to gain the favor of the gods, beat our doppleganger and Ascend to level 20. At that point we'll be able to take on the Mursaat in the Shiverpeak mountains and finally free Tyria from their Tyranny!


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I think it was just introduced because the devs wrote themselves into a hole when they let us be the Most Powerful Ever. They invented a new Most Powerful Ever that they will probs use on up and coming enemies so we can have a challenging enemy to face.

Think DBZ.


 

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Prometheus will open a portal to another parallel world, this particular one unlike any seen before. You'll be deleveled to level 1 and find yourself in the land of Ascalon.

Ascension is when we cross the sea to the Crystal Desert to gain the favor of the gods, beat our doppleganger and Ascend to level 20. At that point we'll be able to take on the Mursaat in the Shiverpeak mountains and finally free Tyria from their Tyranny!
If there are no talking lions there to accept as my personal Lord and Savior who will then make me a king of the realm, then no way, I'm not ascending!


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No lions, but there's industrialized cat people fighting ghosts.


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I think it was just introduced because the devs wrote themselves into a hole when they let us be the Most Powerful Ever. They invented a new Most Powerful Ever that they will probs use on up and coming enemies so we can have a challenging enemy to face.
Rularuu is not "new." Nor was Mot.


 

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Rularuu is not "new." Nor was Mot.
That's cool? Doesn't change what I said, though. They let us be Incarnates, who were supposed to be the Most Powerful Ever class. Now that that class is common and everyone is one, they had to invent a new class above Incarnate that would be the new Most Powerful Ever. That is the Ascended, and we are not allowed to be them or else Prometheus will sic his off screen super ninjas on us.

And I think Rularuu actually has been recently rewritten to be an Ascended, according to Prometheus.


 

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I think it was just introduced because the devs wrote themselves into a hole when they let us be the Most Powerful Ever.
So you're saying that at no time during the even the early planning stage of the Incarnate system did they ever consider what effect the increased power would have on the game and story?


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Prometheus will open a portal to another parallel world, this particular one unlike any seen before. You'll be deleveled to level 1 and find yourself in the land of Ascalon.

Ascension is when we cross the sea to the Crystal Desert to gain the favor of the gods, beat our doppleganger and Ascend to level 20. At that point we'll be able to take on the Mursaat in the Shiverpeak mountains and finally free Tyria from their Tyranny!
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That's cool? Doesn't change what I said, though. They let us be Incarnates, who were supposed to be the Most Powerful Ever class. Now that that class is common and everyone is one, they had to invent a new class above Incarnate that would be the new Most Powerful Ever. That is the Ascended, and we are not allowed to be them or else Prometheus will sic his off screen super ninjas on us.
So he says. Maybe one day we'll kick his butt.

Actually "Ascended" makes sense, since I could really not imagine a universe eating god like Rularuu being tied to something like the Well. Seems it would limit him too much. So thus he's not.

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And I think Rularuu actually has been recently rewritten to be an Ascended, according to Prometheus.
Key words being "you think" since the Well is a more recent addition to the story canon than Rularuu actually. Before, Rularuu was... well... Rularuu. Our version of Galactus or Unicron.

Also, Ascended aren't actually necessary for Incarnates to fight. So far, other (more powerful) Incarnates have been sufficient for Incarnates to fight. And heck, the Battalion aren't Ascended. They're just a race of more Incarnates.


 

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Key words being "you think" since the Well is a more recent addition to the story canon than Rularuu actually. Before, Rularuu was... well... Rularuu. Our version of Galactus or Unicron.
S'why I bolded think and said "recently rewritten". He didn't start out as one, but I'm pretty sure Prometheus recently says Rularuu is one of these Ascended.


 

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Key words being "you think" since the Well is a more recent addition to the story canon than Rularuu actually. Before, Rularuu was... well... Rularuu. Our version of Galactus or Unicron.
Whatever he was originally intended to be, Rularuu is now a Well in his own right according to Prometheus. That's what Ascension means, though it's likely that it's not ALL that it means. Michael allowed Prometheus to say that much but no more.

Why Michael is able to censure Prometheus and dictate what he reveals is a mystery for now.

It doesn't really much matter at this point what the original intentions were for Rularuu. Incarnation originally meant that the incarnate was an avatar of one of the gods. It clearly doesn't mean anything of the kind any more. Same with Rularuu. Whatever he started out to be, he's been adapted to the new lore and the question as to whether the Well or Rularuu is of more recent vintage is a mostly meaningless one now.


 

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S'why I bolded think and said "recently rewritten". He didn't start out as one, but I'm pretty sure Prometheus recently says Rularuu is one of these Ascended.
Then "rewritten" is a poor choice of words. Perhaps "labeled" would work better?


 

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I have seen nothing to imply that Rularuu was retconned into being an Ascended. Like Scythus said, its more like they just gave a name for entities like him.


 

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So you're saying that at no time during the even the early planning stage of the Incarnate system did they ever consider what effect the increased power would have on the game and story?
Judging from the seat-of-the-pants writing we're getting, probably not.


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I have seen nothing to imply that Rularuu was retconned into being an Ascended. Like Scythus said, its more like they just gave a name for entities like him.
Ascension was a recent addition to the lore. Which means it's impossible for Rularuu to have been created with the intention of being an Ascended. So yeah, he was rewritten to be an Ascended since he wasn't one originally, and now he is.


 

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Prometheus will open a portal to another parallel world, this particular one unlike any seen before. You'll be deleveled to level 1 and find yourself in the land of Ascalon.

Ascension is when we cross the sea to the Crystal Desert to gain the favor of the gods, beat our doppleganger and Ascend to level 20. At that point we'll be able to take on the Mursaat in the Shiverpeak mountains and finally free Tyria from their Tyranny!
I LOL'd.


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Originally Posted by Doctor_Embers View Post
So Prometheus mentioned the path to Ascension. I wonder if this is what is planned after Incarnates (or after the Omega slot). If so, it will be interesting seeing what form it takes.
At the moment of Ascension your toon will be ported over to the Aion servers...


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Prometheus says a lot of things.

Most of which make me want to punch him right in the mouth.
I prefer throat punching.


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Most of which make me want to punch him right in the mouth.
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I prefer throat punching.
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One does not preclude the possibility of the other.
Now, now. There's plenty of him to go around.

We could even set up a booth and charge a fee. Think of all the INF we could make!


 

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Now, now. There's plenty of him to go around.

We could even set up a booth and charge a fee. Think of all the INF we could make!
The INF *we* could make? Don't you think punching Prometheus will be a microtransaction in the store? For 2000pp you get a temp power allowing five autohit throat punches to Prometheus. That would pay for I25 by itself.


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